8 hours ago, Admiral Deathrain said:Boardgames are a diferent beast there, sadly. The Catan guy probably does well for himself, maybe the designer of Dominion, too, but I haven't heard anything exceptional.
Yeah, I know. Probably the best case scenario is being one of the "rockstars" of game design, who likely make an ok living in this whole renaissance of board gaming, but I can't imagine it's much more than low six figures (at the highest tier).
18 hours ago, Krashwire said:My thoughts are that if you actually think this is even remotely accurate you lack the ability to think critically. Could be you are just trolling and fully understand how ludicrous this concept is.
You have not allotted for any of the following:
- Sculpting
- Breaking down the sculpt into a printable spru
- Sourcing the materials
- Setting up the factory to print
- Packaging
- Shipping
- Artwork for the packaging
- Marketing
- Paying all of the people for the above tasks
- Office space for said people
This list is in no way exhaustive either. This was just off the top of my head.
A lot of people have said this, but you've managed to be a total **** about it too.
Congrats?
Just a little diversionary thought on the value of our games-
1. How much would it cost you to produce the components in question at a high level of quality (comparable to the game in question) for yourself? I.e., how much would it cost for you to design, sculpt, and produce miniatures? Write rules and then edit them into a visually pleasing and usable rulebook? Produce packaging, etc? Some of this assumes you'll need to account for the value of your time, how much of that time is taken from other interests and from your career, and how much you may need to spend on equipment and skills training to perform any one of the many tasks involved in the production of a miniatures gaming product.
2. If you calculated the above figure, does it fall below the price charged for a similar product from FFG, GW or whomever?
3. If the company is charging you less (as I assume would be the case), is the amount they're charging worth it for the combination of your not having to take the time to design all of the components yourself and being able to enjoy it? Are you happy with their product?
If your enjoyment of your miniatures/games is subjectively (in your mind) commensurate with the amount you've spent on the materials involved, congratulations- you have not been ripped off. Please return to enjoying your hobby.
On 9/16/2017 at 7:15 AM, FatherTurin said:A lot of people have said this, but you've managed to be a total **** about it too.
Congrats?
Hello Pot, nice to meet you.
I work in the Toys and games industry and to be fair those costs seem very low. I cant believe that the Tooling for the Sprues with that amount of detail would cost $0.3 cents to make even back in the day. plus you have to factor in variables like shipping costs from factories in Chin and the up cost selling through a distributor and then a retailers which will hike the cost up. Yes it may seem expensive but Like VandorDM has said this is a hobby not an essential so they can charge whatever they want and we would still pay because its what we like doing.
Just speaking towards Legion and other Star Wars games. That license alone is big, big bucks. That's where the majority of price points come in to play with these figures.
1 hour ago, Darksidenet said:Just speaking towards Legion and other Star Wars games. That license alone is big, big bucks. That's where the majority of price points come in to play with these figures.
Most companies (i.e. LEGO) spread their licensing cost across the whole catalogue, though. Isn't Decent and IA stuff is roughly in the same ballpark?
43 minutes ago, Admiral Deathrain said:Isn't Decent and IA stuff is roughly in the same ballpark?
Price wise? Yes the cores and expansions are the same prices.
16 hours ago, Admiral Deathrain said:Most companies (i.e. LEGO) spread their licensing cost across the whole catalogue, though. Isn't Decent and IA stuff is roughly in the same ballpark?
Maybe, but you're still comparing apples to oranges on volume and range.
Edited by Ralgon2 hours ago, Ralgon said:Maybe, but you're still comparing apples to oranges on volume and range.
Where, between LEGO and FFG or between IA and Decent? I don't own either game, so I am not sure what comes with which, but it IA seems to actually have higher model quality.
1 minute ago, Admiral Deathrain said:Where, between LEGO and FFG or between IA and Decent? I don't own either game, so I am not sure what comes with which, but it IA seems to actually have higher model quality.
Recent Descent releases are the same quality as recent Imperial Assault releases. The overall FFG quality has simply improved over time.
15 minutes ago, Admiral Deathrain said:Where, between LEGO and FFG or between IA and Decent? I don't own either game, so I am not sure what comes with which, but it IA seems to actually have higher model quality.
lego,ffg and sales volumes and range to recover license costs.
this post started with a flawed and incorrect argument...why on earth is it still here?
The Mona Lisa is on a $20 piece of canvas and was painted with about $10 worth of paint....who can I sue
On 9/21/2017 at 0:15 PM, Hidatom said:this post started with a flawed and incorrect argument...why on earth is it still here?
Not just here, but one of the most hotly discussed topics in this forum, as opposed to general fan-personing about a game we're all presumably excited about playing.
3 hours ago, juxstapo said:Not just here, but one of the most hotly discussed topics in this forum, as opposed to general fan-personing about a game we're all presumably excited about playing.
And yet, we've already seen several threads suggesting prepainted mini's is finacially viable even though ffg has stated otherwise for similar smaller volume mini projects and also that the runewars pricing model *should* be too expensive.
Unfortunately elements of the potential player base think in the same vein as this numbnut.