Like to see: Air support ( no models needed ) rules

By soulman, in Star Wars: Legion

Just wanted to sat that since fighters would zoom over the table in a blink of a eye, it would be nice to make it more of a effect. Upgrade cards could call in air cover. Even AT AT attacks could come as well like artillery off board support. In the movies explosions are going off all over the battle field...

We have to wait and see....

Thanks for reading

I'd honestly be surprised if we don't see something like this. Every WWII game i've played, such as FoW or BA have this so there's no reason why Legion can't do something similar. I figure you could do it one of two ways, and perhaps both.

One way is to use a token and anything with in X inches of that token takes damage, this simulates bombing or Artillery strikes. The other is to use a token and anything within a X' wide by Y' long column takes damage to simulate a strafing run.

Although in either case you could just target a given unit and have it take damage and that would do the same thing, but it would be less thematic I think.

I think it was in the TC video where it was mentioned that their would be artillery and that it would be affected by the weather, not sure if that would be part of the "heavy" troops or separate effect though.

Ye olde WEG Star Wars miniature battles did exactly this. You'd buy an off-board strike and if the Force was with you, an entire enemy squad and then some would be blown to smithereens. Damage done and no futzing around with a huge x-wing model that didn't really fit. Of course the downside was no futzing around with a beautiful x-wing model that made your opponent jealous of your mad painting and modeling skills.

I think 40k, having experimented with fliers for a long time, did ultimately prove that little hovering aircraft were more practical than big zooming fighter-bombers. The fast heavies always had big footprints and didn't spend a heck of a lot of time actually on the table as they were always flying off. Of course by then GW had committed (and let's be honest, they probably sell quite well on cool looks alone) so they're staying in 40k.

FFG on the other hand is in a better position, able to learn from others mistakes, so who knows, maybe we'll see something new and innovative.

I feel like air strikes would be a good addition to a command deck. A late initiative card with a special ability that targets an AoE would be interesting, especially as the opponent would see the card and (possibly) be able to scatter his forces.

Airstrikes/Artillery as cards would be easy and pretty awesome.

15 hours ago, Ghostofman said:

FFG on the other hand is in a better position, able to learn from others mistakes, so who knows, maybe we'll see something new and innovative.

FFG also knows that there's other 1/48 and 1/56 scale X-Wing and Tie Fighter models out there. I'm not sure it makes sense for them to produce models that already exist. Plus they don't really fit, and as you said they don't work well in the table top well. GW had to rewrite the rules twice since 8th came out to deal with them.

Starfighters etc as actual on-table models would be horrible IMO. They work much better as abstract bombing or strafing attacks. It just makes far more thematic and mechanical sense that way.

2 hours ago, VanorDM said:

FFG also knows that there's other 1/48 and 1/56 scale X-Wing and Tie Fighter models out there. I'm not sure it makes sense for them to produce models that already exist. Plus they don't really fit, and as you said they don't work well in the table top well. GW had to rewrite the rules twice since 8th came out to deal with them.

The model availability is the thing that suggests they probably won't. But you never know what they will do.

I toyed around with aircraft a while back and found subscale aircraft on a more tripod style base was more practical, at least from a model handling perspective. So I wouldn't completely write aircraft off.

I think your second point is more valid, the rules for aircraft are always tricky, and it's difficult to get something that is balanced, practical, and still feels right.

If the rumors are right we may get an idea where it's going when the rebel airspeeder is released.

1 hour ago, Extropia said:

Starfighters etc as actual on-table models would be horrible IMO. They work much better as abstract bombing or strafing attacks.

The rules shouldn't require them and ideally are done with a token of some type.

But having a X-Wing or Tie Bomber that you could put on the table or zoom over the table making pew-pew noises would add some enjoyment to the game IMO. If there's any sort of strafing/bombing rules I plan on getting some models for that reason.

Oh I'll get them. What I meant was them flying around like flyers in 40k...basiacally normal vehicles hat move a bit faster and have to keep endlessly circling the battlefield.

It just makes no sense. But I will totally get models to represent more lore-appropriate air strikes!

2 minutes ago, Extropia said:

Oh I'll get them. What I meant was them flying around like flyers in 40k...

I agree, I much prefer the BA or FoW method, where you really just use a token and they may or may not sell a model you can use just for the visual effect.

Although in Flames of War there was a spotter airplane you could use and keep on the board. IIRC (as of 2nd or 3rd edition) you just put it on the table anywhere you wanted. Again IIRC that's how helicopters worked in Team Yankey.

Completely unrelated... But I know at least some people here play BA too. They have the Tank Wars rules PDF up for free download on their site, for the month of Sept.

Yep, I'd be totally on board wi the way most historical games use them. I really, genuinely dislike the 40k style. It's just....not at all how aircraft work (ok, most aircraft. The new rules actually simulate an unusually low flying AC-130 quite well....).

I can see them making models and even having rules for them. I would prefer the off board and card support idea myself but don't see them passing up that cash cow. To scale ships would offer unique terrain possibly