In Search of Opinions on what to take with Poe

By PlaceboSA, in X-Wing Squad Lists

45 point Poe. ps9
Intensity - r2 - autothrusters - comms relay - black one.

What else would you personally take with this? Or any opinions on changes, I personally like this setup on poe. Makes him pretty tanky with pocus and evade token at all times frm intensity.

100 point dog fight this weekend and my locals meta is kind of weird and all over the place with a lot of imp players and not many Dengars.

Take BB8 for Poe. With that u can Barrel with green, and even save actions :)

1 hour ago, PlaceboSA said:

45 point Poe. ps9
Intensity - r2 - autothrusters - comms relay - black one.

I've seen this setup on Poe and it works pretty well. The regen gives it extra beef. What are you planning to pair up with Poe? The person I saw you using this setup went with Dash.

Wait, r2, or r2-d2? Because r2 is just extra green maneuvers. Am I missing something?

Hello! I'm actually playing poe with this list.

Sometimes I use to play PS9 POE, removing enhanced scopes and ion projector from the u-wing.

I use to be ad more conservative as possible with poe.

Usually the y-wing is the first target of my enemy.

Poe is obviously the MVP, but it is very difficult to keep him alive with ps8 or if he is not able to take the focus action: cassian can help him removing a stress token.

T-70 X-Wing: · Poe Dameron (31)
Push The Limit (3)
· BB-8 (2)
Autothrusters (2)
· Black One (1)
Sensor Cluster (2)
Y-Wing: Gold Squadron Pilot (18)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)
· R3-A2 (2)
BTL-A4 Y-Wing (0)
U-Wing: · Cassian Andor (27)
Wired (1)
Enhanced Scopes (1)
Ion Projector (2)
Tactician (2)
· Hera Syndulla (1)
Pivot wing (0)
-- TOTAL ------- 100/100p. --

This is my current list. I like the sensor cluster idea. I may have to try it. I have a tanky regen Poe flying next to a slooping Rey.

TFA v.2 (100)

Rey (58) - YT-1300
Expertise (4), Kanan Jarrus (3), Finn (5), Millennium Falcon (1)

Poe Dameron (42) - T-70 X-Wing
Intensity (2), R2-D2 (4), Comm Relay (3), Autothrusters (2)

Both ships can dance pretty well. Rey punches harder, but doesn't have quite the defensiveness that Poe does.

I always use R5-P9 with Poe. You take a focus action to use Poe’s special ability without spending it. Then you can spend it to use it to regenerate a shield with R5-P9.

28 minutes ago, Pooleman said:

I always use R5-P9 with Poe. You take a focus action to use Poe’s special ability without spending it. Then you can spend it to use it to regenerate a shield with R5-P9.

Me too, but then with Intensity you now have another thing to use the focus token for.

For starters, I'm not going to mess with the Poe build. There's lots of valid ways to build him, and lots of personal preferences, so I'll presume you'll stick with yours.

I do like Outriders (Lone Wolf/Rey/HLC is my favorite loadout). The PS difference between Dash and Leebo is pretty irrelevant, and while Dash's ability makes him easier to fly, taking Leebo for the lower cost is entirely valid. Countermeasures or Rigged Cargo Chute can be really handy, too. What's nice about an Outrider is that it packs a pretty solid offense (Poe lacks it, particularly if stacked full regen as in the OP) onto a ship which isn't necessarily easy to kill. This is probably my first choice.

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A Fat Chewbacca (Predator/Recon Spec/Jan Ors/Countermeasures/Scavenger Crane) comes in at 55 points. A cheap Rey with just Finn/Kanan/HoR Title is 54 points, so that'd be 1 point for a bid or Elite upgrade (I think I'd take Adaptability for all PS9 and a small bid).

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Miranda Doni is an option. Sabine, TLT, Advanced Slam, and a giant pile of bombs (I like Thermal/Cluster/Conner at 52 pts total). If you're meta has a lot of PS 8 and 9 aces, dropping bombs on their faces before they move can do well, but the ship is clearly more fragile than a YT.

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A cheap ship I love is TIE Sabine Wren with just Trick Shot. Probably as much fun as you'll have with a 15 point ship. Barrel roll behind asteroids, and use your pilot ability next turn to avoid flying over them. I also think a 14 point Captain Rex isn't necessarily bad--fly him as a flanker and they'll either have to open their rear to Poe + Friend and waste a round shooting a TIE, or he'll nerf their attack dice. Either one would leave about 40 for a 3rd ship.

You can grab one of the Wexleys (Snap {VI + Targ. Astro. + AT + Pattern Analyzer} or Norra {PTL, Kyle K, BB-8 or R7-T1}) for well under price. Other options include a Warden K-Wing bomber (Sabine/EM/AS/Cluster Mines/Thermal Dets is 36 points, those can still wreck aces) or Nien Numb who can really bully low PS ships with R3-A2, Rage, Experimental Interface, Pattern Analyzer (pull a red, boost to range 1, EI into Rage, then discard all 4 stress; follow up with the Stressbot), but will crumble to high PS ships and heavy turrets. A U-Wing with Chewbacca and Engine Upgrade (plus whatever else you like) can also do OK. There's also a cheap VCX. FCS/ABT/Hera/Chopper on a Lothal Rebel is 40 points, ColDet/TLT/Wookie Commandos is 42 (16 HP plus evades every turn...), which would leave a max of 13 points for something like Zeb TIE or a Tala Squadron Z-95.

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As to other 3-ship builds... You could fit in Biggs + R4-D6 and Lowhhrick + Selflessness + Chopper. Standard Stresshog Y-Wing is 26 points, leaving 29 points for something like a 28-pt no-missile Jake Farrell. A standard Proton Rockets Jake is 33 points, with 22 points for Ahsoka with VI, Title, Captured TIE, Rey. If you knew for a fact that you'd never face other PS 9s, she'd be amazing: great support early game, and a heck of a knife fighter late game, with 1-hards, start of combat barrel rolls, and a stack of tokens on Rey. If you face high PS folks like Dengar/Nym, she'll struggle to make up her points, though.

The two best Poe builds I know is these:

Poe Dameron - PS 9 (42)
PTL (3), BB-8 (2), Black One (1), Primed Thrusters (1), Autothrusters (2)
Rey (58)
Expertise (4), Kanan Jarrus (3), Finn (5), Millennium Falcon (1)

Poe Dameron - PS 9 (45)
PTL (3), BB-8 (2), Black One (1), Primed Thrusters (1), Autothrusters (2), Plasma Tropedoes (3)
Miranda Doni (53)
TLT (6), EM (2), Homing Missiles (5), Cluster Mines (4), Sabine Wren (2), Advanced Slam (2), Bomblet Generator (3)

- In both builds Poe can also be build with Intensity at 1 point less, but I prefer PTL

On 9/4/2017 at 3:00 PM, ayedubbleyoo said:

Me too, but then with Intensity you now have another thing to use the focus token for.

I don’t have intensity.

You need to go get it!

On 9/4/2017 at 8:41 AM, PlaceboSA said:

45 point Poe. ps9
Intensity - r2 - autothrusters - comms relay - black one.

What else would you personally take with this? Or any opinions on changes, I personally like this setup on poe. Makes him pretty tanky with pocus and evade token at all times frm intensity.

100 point dog fight this weekend and my locals meta is kind of weird and all over the place with a lot of imp players and not many Dengars.

The easy choice is the Dash that @theBitterFig suggested. You just have to kill more points than Poe is worth and you've probably won the game...just keep Poe alive. I love that Poe build with a TLT/Bomblet Miranda and Rex, but you'll be playing an even longer "long game" with that list than you would with Dash.

I ran this list tonight:

Dash Rendar (56)
YT-2400 Freighter (36), Lone Wolf (2), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Rey (2), Outrider (5), Smuggling Compartment (0), Burnout Slam (1), Counter-Measures (3)

Poe Dameron (PS9 Version) (43)
T-70 X-Wing (33), Black One (1), BB-8 (2), Flechette Torpedoes (2), Primed Thrusters (1), Intensity (2), Autothrusters (2)

As @gennataos said, Dash definitely needs to make up the points Poe isn't taking off the table. The list I played tonight had Rhymer, Jendon and two TIE's, and Dash killed off everything but one TIE. Sure Poe doesn't hit as hard, but getting two TIE's to chase him instead of getting in R1of Dash was definitely worth it.

Edited by Futura

@Futura Did you get much use from the Flachette torpedoes? Also how do you deal with the delicate nature of BB8 Poetensity? As I've said before, I love flying this ship, the pre-maneuver barrel roll is the best, but I found this ship goes down pretty quickly, what's your secret to keeping him around?

@BlodVargarna I honestly didn't get a chance to use them. I took them thinking I could stress a ship to help Poe maneuver on them while softening them up for Dash, but I never got a chance I thought I could spend an action on a TL. I was taking an evade, focus, or both all game to keep him alive. I think what helped keep him around into the end game was being able to take a focus and evade when I knew he was going to need them, and getting lucky roles against Proton Torpedos and several volleys from the TIE's. I also flew him pretty tight around and close to obstacles, which 1. helped him get an extra green die a few times and 2. forced my opponent to fly differently so he wouldn't have to deal with them. I'm no Ace with him, I think he takes planning, but he is a lot of fun, especially with Dash.

3 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

@Futura Did you get much use from the Flachette torpedoes? Also how do you deal with the delicate nature of BB8 Poetensity? As I've said before, I love flying this ship, the pre-maneuver barrel roll is the best, but I found this ship goes down pretty quickly, what's your secret to keeping him around?

The key with bb-8 Poe is keeping him at range 3 at almost all times and making use of auto thrusters, and constant focusing to maximize off his pilot ability. I prefer mine with pattern analyzer so I can talon roll or k turn and still gain the focus.

also pairing him with a bigger threat (like expertise rey ) forces your opponent to choose between dealing with either a 4-5 dice healthy Rey or an arc dodging Poe in the late game. So as long as you don't fly Poe into a situation where he's the easy target, you'll have him in the late game 90% of the time.

First i started playing Dash/Poe plot armor build. But I wanted to include countermeasures and still have a good ps bid against fenn/dangar/RAC and other poe's. So I started flying leebo instead of dash and switch comms relay for prime thrusters. Leebo's ability is useful when able to discard blinded pilot or double damage. Saved me a in few games. As for comms relay, it makes Poe a super tank. Down side is I wasn't pushing damage through or able to turn around. Using prime thrusters makes Poe able to knife fight opponents. Also it works in conjunction with black one title to strip target locks. I hope that helps.

Plot Armor Rev2 (97)

Poe Dameron (43) - T-70 X-Wing
Intensity (2), R2-D2 (4), Primed Thrusters (1), Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

"Leebo" (54) - YT-2400
Lone Wolf (2), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Rey (2), Outrider (5), Smuggling Compartment (0), Burnout SLAM (1), Countermeasures (3)

3 hours ago, Datacrave said:

First i started playing Dash/Poe plot armor build. But I wanted to include countermeasures and still have a good ps bid against fenn/dangar/RAC and other poe's. So I started flying leebo instead of dash and switch comms relay for prime thrusters. Leebo's ability is useful when able to discard blinded pilot or double damage. Saved me a in few games. As for comms relay, it makes Poe a super tank. Down side is I wasn't pushing damage through or able to turn around. Using prime thrusters makes Poe able to knife fight opponents. Also it works in conjunction with black one title to strip target locks. I hope that helps.

Plot Armor Rev2 (97)

Poe Dameron (43) - T-70 X-Wing
Intensity (2), R2-D2 (4), Primed Thrusters (1), Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

"Leebo" (54) - YT-2400
Lone Wolf (2), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Rey (2), Outrider (5), Smuggling Compartment (0), Burnout SLAM (1), Countermeasures (3)

I've been flying that same Leebo. Dash's ability is handy but not necessary, and the difference between ps 7 and ps 5 these days is inconsequential.

Interesting take on regen Poe. I was using BB8/primed thrusters Poetensity a lot, but have succumbed to the standard plot armor Poe.

Do you think the 3 point bid is that important? With Leebo, you can run plot armor and come in at 99.

I wonder if Poe could carry Veteran Instincts and Intensity through the R2-D6 droid? No regen or BB8 but a good combination of high PS and extra actions.

While I'd love to have 2 EPT for Poe, sadly the card doesn't work like that.

"Your upgrade bar gains the elite upgrade icon. You cannot equip this upgrade if you already have an elite upgrade icon or if your pilot skill value is "2" or lower."

Edited by BlodVargarna

Oh right, I was getting carried away thinking of A-Wings with two EPT.

Knew there was a reason I hadn’t seen this before!

Nien Nunb and Jess Pava. There’s a triple t-70 thread around here somewhere...