16 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Why does Broba seem town to you?

Dras shoots at him and is repelled.

I investigate him and am repelled.

It seems to me that something is definitely wrong there.

It seems just too good to be to anything but town. That would be crazy powerful for a cult leader. We also know he's visited you and Mad. What you're saying would mean he can boost, recruit, and be immune to everything. That's bananas powerful. Like I said, I think you're both town and this is setting up an unnecessary binary situation.

Sorry I havent been as around as i want to. Ive been at Disneyland with the family today.

I cant say really anything about my role because i am sitting on incredibly thin ice right now with a cilt out there..

I am not certain about cninja, beyond hating that he brought up mind tricks which ruin games almosy as quickly as cults.

Alternatively, who has been quiet? Who has been under the radar? Who seems like a cult leader just hoping to do bare minimum and skate by? Cninja, as shady as he seems to me (aka i think he is probably scum) is not as big of a threat as the cult leader.

I may have some explanation to do...

My last few days were difficult due IRL stuff I don't want to talk abut any further but it seemed it prevented me from playing at all during the weekend and potentially for the next several days to come... Let it be enough that I didn't have any sleep last night and I'm currently heading to work.

I was pondering a lot before I sent my post and I rewrote it about a dozen times. At some point I even wanted to ask Vis to modkill me. Then I decided I want to use my ability at least once. And I didn't erase the whole message that's why the "sorry" part remained there.

Back to the game:

I am very suspicious about Pod's asking me to claim in his first post of the day. And he didn't do anything much since. In fact he didn't do anything even remotely Pod-like during the whole game. And he barely talks. That places him high on my list.

Broba is an odd one. In a town of at least 4 fishermen and Dras and myself does the town needs an insanely powerful town role? One that cannot be shoot at and cannot be investigated? So basically all could be done is to lynch him? This feels like a concentrated mega-threat to me rather than town. Truthi maybe just follows his lead (possibly in a good faith). Let's not forget that his supposed boosting ability is not confirmed yet. It was claimed only by Mad, who, mind you, was visited by Broba. So if Broba would be a cult leader Mad should protect him now.

But let's assume that he is town. The only way to indirectly prove it would be to kill CNinja or Dras and if either of them flips scum that would clean Broba. But I'm not comfortable with this option.

By the way @Caldias you barely talked so far. Busy leading a cult perhaps?

Caldias as back to bacm cult leaders would just be the moat hilarious.

Wow, what a turn of events.

I am concerned about Broba. Being untouchable is odd. Sure, it's an amazing town role, but it almost seems too good to be true.

I think that of all the players, I would say that Norell, Mad and CNinja are most likely town.

Dras is probably town, but vig is a great fake claim for scum, so I have a measure of doubt.

Pod really is toned down, but then again we did ask him to do that, so I can't say if it's a tell.

Who is flying under the radar, and thus could be a cult leader? Ironically, Cal does indeed seem to be one such candidate, but really all the players except the ones above and Truth could be considered to be doing that.

4 hours ago, Norell said:

Broba is an odd one. In a town of at least 4 fishermen and Dras and myself does the town needs an insanely powerful town role? One that cannot be shoot at and cannot be investigated? So basically all could be done is to lynch him? This feels like a concentrated mega-threat to me rather than town. Truthi maybe just follows his lead (possibly in a good faith). Let's not forget that his supposed boosting ability is not confirmed yet. It was claimed only by Mad, who, mind you, was visited by Broba. So if Broba would be a cult leader Mad should protect him now.

This is probably the best summary of the case against Broba. He was also in on the Norell vote. I'm willing to go toward Broba if that's how the town's leaning. The evidence is decent when you put it that way. I just can't shake the feeling he's town. As long as we're of the understanding that I'm hanging Ninja without question if Broba flips town, I'm willing to throw my vote toward Broba. This late in the day, I think we're down to pretty much Ninja or Broba.

5 hours ago, Norell said:

I may have some explanation to do...

My last few days were difficult due IRL stuff I don't want to talk abut any further but it seemed it prevented me from playing at all during the weekend and potentially for the next several days to come... Let it be enough that I didn't have any sleep last night and I'm currently heading to work.

I was pondering a lot before I sent my post and I rewrote it about a dozen times. At some point I even wanted to ask Vis to modkill me. Then I decided I want to use my ability at least once. And I didn't erase the whole message that's why the "sorry" part remained there.

Back to the game:

I am very suspicious about Pod's asking me to claim in his first post of the day. And he didn't do anything much since. In fact he didn't do anything even remotely Pod-like during the whole game. And he barely talks. That places him high on my list.

Broba is an odd one. In a town of at least 4 fishermen and Dras and myself does the town needs an insanely powerful town role? One that cannot be shoot at and cannot be investigated? So basically all could be done is to lynch him? This feels like a concentrated mega-threat to me rather than town. Truthi maybe just follows his lead (possibly in a good faith). Let's not forget that his supposed boosting ability is not confirmed yet. It was claimed only by Mad, who, mind you, was visited by Broba. So if Broba would be a cult leader Mad should protect him now.

But let's assume that he is town. The only way to indirectly prove it would be to kill CNinja or Dras and if either of them flips scum that would clean Broba. But I'm not comfortable with this option.

By the way @Caldias you barely talked so far. Busy leading a cult perhaps?

Hoo boy, I also have IRL stuff going on, mostly adjusting to having a two-year-old in the house, but I've still posted. The real irony here is the one of the few things I've posted is ask you a question twice, which you've ignored each time.

@Visovics can we get a vote count please? Don't think there's much there, but I'd like to make sure I didn't miss anything.

@Truthiness

Sorry I've been not so active this time round. Thought I had time this round, but I've been less free than expected.

Broba is most concerning to me. If your interpretation of Dras' response is right, then I think it's likely we've found a cult leader or other anti town power role.

In fact, I'll put my money where my mouth is.

##vote Broba

Oni, you're way more experienced at this than I am, so I'll defer to you. I can't shake the feeling he's town, but we can't afford yet another idle day. I'm definitely voting Ninja tomorrow if he flips town.

##vote BrobaFett

Assuming day started at 8:46 AM yesterday, when Vis posted the list, we have around 12 hours 46 minutes left. I shall be asleep for the last 8 or nine of those, most likely, so I really only have 5ish hours in which to vote and hear arguments.

Therefore, I feel it best to vote now, just in case:

##vote Broba

While I am not 100% or even 80% certain that he is scum or cult leader, I agree that something about his role seems off, given the other power roles we have. As the vote seems to be between he and CNinja, and I believe CNinja's town )or am as certain of that as I can be right now), I don't see myself as having any other person to vote for as of now.

1 hour ago, Caldias said:

Hoo boy, I also have IRL stuff going on, mostly adjusting to having a two-year-old in the house, but I've still posted. The real irony here is the one of the few things I've posted is ask you a question twice, which you've ignored each time.

I did not ignore it. I answered it in my post above.

7 hours ago, Norell said:

I am very suspicious about Pod's asking me to claim in his first post of the day. And he didn't do anything much since. In fact he didn't do anything even remotely Pod-like during the whole game. And he barely talks. That places him high on my list.

Ok @Norell

if its classic pod you desire...

If You were drasnighta which two shots would you have taken?

37 minutes ago, Norell said:

I did not ignore it. I answered it in my post above.

Whoops! Sorry about that, I totally missed it.

A lot of push on broba. He could be cult, but he does seem to have visited me and he didn't flip me, so if he is cult he's probably not the cult leader. I say probably because his whole suite of abilities is making no sense to me. Like, at all. He didn't claim his abilities either, so that could be either;

1. A powerful cult role trying to dodge and weave;

or

2. A powerful town role trying not to get flipped.

The major problem I have with number 2, is that its simply too late already. There are multiple corraborating witnesses claiming similar effects when targetting you, so the cult is already aware of your role value. They may not know exactly how strong, but they know its strong and they know its there. Would cult be similarly turned away by your ability?

I think it may make sense to hammer you just based on the potential your power would have in cult hands, but I want to see a vote count before I lay one down, @Visovics That, and the fact that I know that your visit did in fact give me a double action and didn't turn me into a Cthulu loving, kool-aid binging comet lover are what is currently staying my hand. In the meantimes, you may want to address the issues I've laid out above.

Also, you called Cninja a liar for bringing up mind tricks, but it seems dras had a similar experience. If you have a built in role power that does this, then you should have known that ninja was being truthful, and that would make you the liar. Lynch all liars! Again, your play says "lynch me" but the fact that you gave me a double action and didnt turn me says "I'm not a cult leader" I do wonder if you gave me the double since you thought I was maybe scum? The timing works, since your claimed visit was N1 the D2 "everyones alive" reveal wouldn't have happened yet. A double scum kill would be great for an obstenibly bulletproof cultist.

You know what? I've talked myself into this.

##vote brobafett

Sorry, thanks for the double action, but theres just too much here. Even the mitigating evidence looks bad.

As to other topics, I think Oni had a good point about Norell. He was very clearly town last day phase, and bought a lot of town cred by burning Ginkapo alive in the fires of justice. It would be a strong, smart cult play to flip him. (Sorry Nor, but just looking at it from a cult tactics perspective) Just something to watch.

Also, we still haven't heard from JJ today. I assume he's been gun fishing? I'm also going to assume dras has been truthful and that also theres no scum, just a cult, so I'll put it out there that when I turn up dead in the morning JJ is almost 100% the guy to look at. Thats right JJ, I know behind that friendly facade lies the heart of a killer!

Hey guys The Toad is back and holy crap did a lot happen while I was gone!

Ill be giving some input in a little bit there is a TON to take in...

I just read the wiki page on cult.

i wish i hadnt.

Positive waves going into tonight @Drasnighta

Any signs of hair loss yet? =)

@TheToad

Welcome back

Youl be pleasantly surprised to find me only around the 33% of total content mark

So i just read over things... I don't like this Broba thing... either... I think Mad brought up an excellent point... Broba calls out Ninja for mentioning the mind trick thing even calling Ninja a liar for it... but then it is confirmed by Dras...

Maybe Broba is the chosen one destined to bring balance to the Cantina... but we all know how that can go... remember the beloved princess claim?

Im willing to put my vote down but I'd like a count first...

I'm also thinking Norell is an Arsonist... aren't those usually third party? Either way did us a favor by hitting a cultist

Seriously, town has a really bad habit of shooting themselves in the foot over and over for some reason. I don't get it.

My role is that of New Republic Chief Supervisor. I am a a town-aligned Motivator. I get one PM to Visovics every night where I can ##motivate someone, allowing them to perform an extra action the following night. As town aligned as they come.

Literally, in this set up of fishing townspeople I am a huge boost to the town because I let them double fish for a good item, or get an item and use it in the same night. But that boost 100% relies on me being secret, not claiming, not drawing attention to myself because if I get culted then leader gets to turn 2 people a night and guess what? Game freakin over. I said over, and over, and over, and over that I needed to play quiet this game. That I could not give any more information, that I needed you to leave me the eff alone and evidently that was scummy but I had no other choice. I could not claim without getting culted. I could not provide any information to clear my name without getting culted.

So yes, you are all right, now I DO need to be lynched today, because allowing me to live to night time just means I will become cult and soup up the leader. So not only do we lose my role, but we lose a whole day and a chance of getting the actual cult leader, and lose another member of town tonight to the cult.

I didn't claim to have superpowers - you claimed that for me. I didn't claim to be a town super role, be bulletproof, unscannable, nothing of that sort. All I tried to do was fly under the radar and do my best to help town win but you all get so fixated and tunnelvisioned on one person you scuttle any chance town has of winning time and time again.

## vote Brobafett

Peace out, good luck town.

4 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Seriously, town has a really bad habit of shooting themselves in the foot over and over for some reason. I don't get it.

My role is that of New Republic Chief Supervisor. I am a a town-aligned Motivator. I get one PM to Visovics every night where I can ##motivate someone, allowing them to perform an extra action the following night. As town aligned as they come.

Literally, in this set up of fishing townspeople I am a huge boost to the town because I let them double fish for a good item, or get an item and use it in the same night. But that boost 100% relies on me being secret, not claiming, not drawing attention to myself because if I get culted then leader gets to turn 2 people a night and guess what? Game freakin over. I said over, and over, and over, and over that I needed to play quiet this game. That I could not give any more information, that I needed you to leave me the eff alone and evidently that was scummy but I had no other choice. I could not claim without getting culted. I could not provide any information to clear my name without getting culted.

So yes, you are all right, now I DO need to be lynched today, because allowing me to live to night time just means I will become cult and soup up the leader. So not only do we lose my role, but we lose a whole day and a chance of getting the actual cult leader, and lose another member of town tonight to the cult.

I didn't claim to have superpowers - you claimed that for me. I didn't claim to be a town super role, be bulletproof, unscannable, nothing of that sort. All I tried to do was fly under the radar and do my best to help town win but you all get so fixated and tunnelvisioned on one person you scuttle any chance town has of winning time and time again.

## vote Brobafett

Peace out, good luck town.

I was wondering what he'd say.

He pulled out all of the stops. (Even illegally voting for himself )

Unfortunately it all rings hollow. He has been super aggressive and reactive (See Day 1)

BTW, I'm not completely convinced there aren't other forces at work here, but I am totally convinced that something is going on with Broba.

If Broba turns up town, Dras and I are going down in a ball of flames, and that is fine.

Il take some of that action @BrobaFett

I tried saying nice things about @Visovics last night to no avail

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

BTW, I'm not completely convinced there aren't other forces at work here, but I am totally convinced that something is going on with Broba.

If Broba turns up town, Dras and I are going down in a ball of flames, and that is fine.

At least you recognize that. If he flips town my first post of the day will be a vote on you, with zero need for an explanation.