3 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Let's just say that the scum will have to think twice after I fished some armor out of the ship.

Did it come with Jamie Lannister inside?

Just now, ovinomanc3r said:

Did it come with Jamie Lannister inside?

#HouseDon'tGiveaCrap

The first book was amazing. Then he killed my favorite character and it all went to **** after that. Couldn't finish the last written book.

Don't have HBO.

Ok so I've gotta prep for the students but I'll check back later.

@DrasnightaI'm putting a policy vote on you today when our article comes out.

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

So @GhostofNobodyInParticularlet's talk about your vote and Norell's vote on me (I think Truth is clear personally).

What was my strange behavior? Voting for Broba and getting a reaction from him that seemed to confirm my suspicions? (This bad reaction was confirmed BY HIM)

Or maybe it was backing off of Mads when I saw that his claim was EXACTLY like mine? (Why/how would scum do that?)

I already said I wasn't happy with it. It was not a solid read, nor was it even close to being as good as being flimsy. However, it was a general 'gut feeling' a . . . sense, an air of off-ness, if you will.

We normally don't see much of you Day 1, and you do not often post aggressively until late Day 2 or Day 3. So your being aggressive and prominent Day 1 was like you were playing your Day 3 game right from the get go. This inconsistency felt off, and while it does also jive with your scum play, it most certainly was uncharacteristic of your town play. It was a very weak read, and generally not worthy of a vote, I think, but I had no other read. You jumped on Broba for making good points, on the argument, as I understood it, that he made good points as scum. . . which seemed a silly argument. I probably misunderstood you.

Anyway, that's my input. I voted you as the only person I was even mildly suspicious of, and it was in no way a solid vote.

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

jive

I think I misused that word. Please replace it with 'clash'.

5 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

So then Mad. What did you do last night?

I fished. I could tell you, but as I was catching up it occurs to me that there are clearly multiple fishermen in this game. And if folks all say what they fished for, and if they were or werent successful, then we are providing valuable information to the scum faction.

For example, CNinja has alluded to having a bulletproof vest. Great, but assuming hes town (and after d1's vote im inclined to believe he is) and assuming town doesn't lie (lynch all liars) then a scum player reading this is probably thinking "well, no reason to go after cninja then" and so in protecting himself, he has inadvertently deflected more danger onto the rest of town.

Especially if people start claiming they fished for things that are not vests, as they become a more active threat to scum and are afforded none of the same protections. Ideally, we want scum targetting people with vests, and they probably wont do be inclined to do so if they know who has them.

Now, they only get one target, so this early we might be able to get away with this kind of information exchange early by providing an extreme target rich enviornment, but I think the greatest power the fisherman role has is "surprise I was a cop/watcher/tracker" last night! Or "surprise your kill didnt count!"

Anyway, thats why I'm disinclined to share the results of my fishing trip last night. I could be swayed, I guess, if maybe people think I'm just overthinking it.

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

inadvertently

No way was it inadvertant.

7 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I fished. I could tell you, but as I was catching up it occurs to me that there are clearly multiple fishermen in this game. And if folks all say what they fished for, and if they were or werent successful, then we are providing valuable information to the scum faction.

For example, CNinja has alluded to having a bulletproof vest. Great, but assuming hes town (and after d1's vote im inclined to believe he is) and assuming town doesn't lie (lynch all liars) then a scum player reading this is probably thinking "well, no reason to go after cninja then" and so in protecting himself, he has inadvertently deflected more danger onto the rest of town.

Especially if people start claiming they fished for things that are not vests, as they become a more active threat to scum and are afforded none of the same protections. Ideally, we want scum targetting people with vests, and they probably wont do be inclined to do so if they know who has them.

Now, they only get one target, so this early we might be able to get away with this kind of information exchange early by providing an extreme target rich enviornment, but I think the greatest power the fisherman role has is "surprise I was a cop/watcher/tracker" last night! Or "surprise your kill didnt count!"

Anyway, thats why I'm disinclined to share the results of my fishing trip last night. I could be swayed, I guess, if maybe people think I'm just overthinking it.

Alright guys I'm here and just read through things...

The only thing I hate more than D1 is D1.5

Gink and Ovis interaction raised a flag for me

And I agree with Mad that Ninja is playing a little loose with the info

i like to think that we got lucky last night and the scum kill got blocked... but I don't like trusting in dumb luck... my tinfoil hat is coming out

12 minutes ago, TheToad said:

Gink and Ovis interaction raised a flag for me

I am curious about the interaction.

JJsJuggernaut, Imp Cap, Broba Fett and you voting the same guy for what seemed the same reasons is the kind of interaction that raises your flags?

I mean, I am fine with that but seems it didn't raise your flag then.

1 hour ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

P. off Gink. I'm not copping to your pressure. I'm town and it is dumb to hammer me.

1 hour ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Let's just say that the scum will have to think twice after I fished some armor out of the ship.

Don't worry Mads, I've got the situation covered...I fished a syringe out...

Or did I?

I figured scum would want to know what we had...

I ain't asking for claims, but was someone attacked last night? I still want to know what nature of threat to town there is. Confirming you were attacked and not elaborating on how you lived doesn't seem like bad info to ask for.

6 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

I am curious about the interaction.

JJsJuggernaut, Imp Cap, Broba Fett and you voting the same guy for what seemed the same reasons is the kind of interaction that raises your flags?

I mean, I am fine with that but seems it didn't raise your flag then.

Well we didn't all vote for Mad right out of the gates D1 so... the comparison dosnt really work

and you in Gink are like tag teaming it so far today...

The fishing claims and half the results can't be verified anyway. So Ninja has alluded he has a vest or a syringe. Or whatever. Bully for him. We can't verify it.

I might also just be jealous he actually got something...

Gink is the one setting off my radar today. He's acting very Pod-ish. Speaking of which, where is Beetlejuice?

4 minutes ago, TheToad said:

Well we didn't all vote for Mad right out of the gates D1 so... the comparison dosnt really work

and you in Gink are like tag teaming it so far today...

Meta: this is not a game related post;

Well, Ovi is Spanish right? And Gink is English? So if they meet in the middle and high five, is that an Eiffel Tower?

(If you dont get this joke, you can pm me for an explanation, as it is unfit for a public forum. Alternately just take my word that I'm hilarious)

@Madaghmire

Was fishing at least productive last night?

As the person i voted for yesterday, I need to be doubly sure that you are town today and that my vote isn't going right back where it was before.

Just my 2 cents. Can you motivate me and the rest of the people who voted for you yesterday that your claim can be verified?

Highest on my radar right now are Norell and ImpCap and then less is Broba.

Norell = basically tagged along with the whole B.S. "Ninja is acting different" argument (sorry Truth ) and really gave little. Then comes on immediately and gives a very scum-centered explanation for last night.

ImpCap = did about the same thing with Madaghmire. Scum-marining so far IMO.

Broba = I think my read, and Broba's subsequent reaction was totally scum, and he backed off then "acted" more town, even acknowledging his overreaction. While I'm still looking at him (as this would be the smart Scum play by him) I totally backed off becasue I don't want to fall into the Town v town trap.

4 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Was fishing at least productive last night?

And then Broba goes and does this...

Broba I'm sure all of our fishing expeditions were TOTALLY successful...

Unless they weren't.

Why would we want scum to know either way?

I support the Imp Cap scumarine theory that's why my vote was there yesterday... only moved it because I didn't want a no-lynch (what good that did)

14 minutes ago, TheToad said:

Well we didn't all vote for Mad right out of the gates D1 so... the comparison dosnt really work

and you in Gink are like tag teaming it so far today...

Yeah it is not the same. You didn't have a whole day to check if you were following the devil there so you, at the end, agreed with him.

I am safe. I have time to react if Gink does something scummy.

Just a heads up. I might be sparse for the rest of today. I have about 30 Soldiers in the path of Irma. Last duty day before the storm is projected to hit.

8 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

And then Broba goes and does this...

Broba I'm sure all of our fishing expeditions were TOTALLY successful...

Unless they weren't.

Why would we want scum to know either way?

Wow yeah, right after me pointing that there's next to zero way to verify the fishing results. I'm starting is see what you're talking about Ninja.

Are you both daft? Am I that terrible of a player that I would be so stupid to shade myself like that? Play smart you guys are better than this. I am trying to get rid of this stupid obsession you have with me this game without any more claims or reveals but literally every word I say (and you say) puts me in more danger.

Waiting on @Madaghmire

Don't say what you fished up, just answer my question please, best you can.