[MAFIA] Sands of the New Republic - DAY 1

By Visovics, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

1 minute ago, TheToad said:

The only way for town to win is to completely take out a cult I believe the other two are lone wolves... by killing me you will only allow them to rebuild

I'm sure that you detailed that before, but why do you think that?

I do think it is possible that Black Sun is Lone, but how can the other be?

17 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

I'm sure that you detailed that before, but why do you think that?

I do think it is possible that Black Sun is Lone, but how can the other be?

I'm not positive that they're both at one... but I do know they've both taken losses and the town needs to keep up the momentum... it's like a hydra... if you don't kill it completely then it's just going to keep coming back... I've done what I can to give the town a chance

And as I've stated before... the chance I've given the town is still very slim

TheToad right now:

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I really am not getting how you offering to make town part of your cult saves them from cults.

1 minute ago, Caldias said:

TheToad right now:

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I really am not getting how you offering to make town part of your cult saves them from cults.

I think he's offering to test our suspects for us, under the assumption that if he can't recruit them, they are cult and thus are lynched. If he can recruit them, what will he say? Yes I could recruit them? Whatever answer he gives, we find a cultist. If we direct his recruitment, we can have him target prime suspects, such as Norell, CNinja, and Mad. At the moment, he's tried you and JJ, and reports that both of you are cult.

3 minutes ago, Caldias said:

TheToad right now:

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I really am not getting how you offering to make town part of your cult saves them from cults.

I'm trying to save the town from the impending suck fest of having 3 cults that can't kill each other

ive given the town the info they need to win

Right, but what I'm saying is you do that, and he grows his little cult, and his cult wins instead of town. And he can claim to "recruit" people and accuse them of being cults, and once you lynch them and realize he's either wrong or even right he still nabs people, and wins.

What I'm seeing, is it looks like a cult win is inevitable, and he's trying to come out on top. Admirable, I guess, but still isn't a town victory.

If town really wanted to avoid the suckfest of three cults, we know, if The Toad is being honest, lynching TheToad and me shooting Pod completely eliminates one. I had my other suspicions for cult, but this seems to guarantee an elimination. Am I wrong?

And maybe we need to come to terms with the fact that maybe the town can't win at this point... I don't know what abilities they have at their disposal

maybe a cult win is inevitable and sure it may be mine but maybe the town

5 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Right, but what I'm saying is you do that, and he grows his little cult, and his cult wins instead of town. And he can claim to "recruit" people and accuse them of being cults, and once you lynch them and realize he's either wrong or even right he still nabs people, and wins.

What I'm seeing, is it looks like a cult win is inevitable, and he's trying to come out on top. Admirable, I guess, but still isn't a town victory.

If town really wanted to avoid the suckfest of three cults, we know, if The Toad is being honest, lynching TheToad and me shooting Pod completely eliminates one. I had my other suspicions for cult, but this seems to guarantee an elimination. Am I wrong?

You're right but then you have two little cults that are still in the dark growing they're numbers

by siding with me all the rotten eggs are in one basket

Edit: ignore the first part I was ninjad by Cal

Why dont we just lynch toad and cal can shoot pod? One cult gone.

Why would Cal shoot Pod?

1 hour ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Because here are my thoughts. Maybe TheToad is solo? if he is, we wipe out a cult. If he does have Pod, then Pod continues.

Fake news.

Didnt you accuse broba of being Naive ?

You cant seriously believe the Toad?

Just now, PodRacer said:

Fake news.

Didnt you accuse broba of being Naive ?

You cant seriously believe the Toad?

I mean did you read the first part of what you quoted?

5 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Why dont we just lynch toad and cal can shoot pod? One cult gone.

You could do that... but then you are left with two cults of unknown strength

Which flavor of kool aid do you like?

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

I mean did you read the first part of what you quoted?

Dont even think about sending scummy waves my way in all this.

The jailor and prisoner are not in cahoots.

@PodRacerNo idea what you mean.

I'm saying you may not be in the cult of TheToad,

Then you say I'm naive for believing TheToad.

Right.

@TheToad

Why did you throw me into that little fairy tale of Yours?

Can anyone else tell me why Pod would lie about this?

@PodRacer I'm doing what I believe is best... i didn't like the way the table was set so I turned over the table

I think Toad is desperately trying to win this game. Rather unconventionally, but cudos to him. Sadly his logic make absolutely no sense. I've already pointed out our known case of a down being immune (broba), now Toad comes in throwing his accusations, saying failing of his recruitment makes people a cult, its just stupid.

Secondly, I agree with Mad (unfortunately) , There is absolutely no reason not to get rid of a known cult once and for all. That is the best move for the town.

@Caldias

Why would you shoot Pod?

If on day 1 there were the 3 cult leaders only then according to Toad's story by Day 2 there were 2 Red, 2 BS and 1 Hutt. Gink was BS and died, so on Day 3 there were 3 Red, 2 BS and 1 Hutt. The Truti and IC died, so by now there are 3 Red, 2 BS and 1 Hutt, totaling 6 of 10 players. One more Red and they won. We KNOW Dras isn't Red because he killed a Red. We also know that Caldias isn't BS for the same reason.

And Mad I explained in a long post that three cult without a killer seems to be more beneficial for the town. Especially that we must consider the possibility that the game may very well be over if we can't lynch a Red.

8 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

I think Toad is desperately trying to win this game. Rather unconventionally, but cudos to him. Sadly his logic make absolutely no sense. I've already pointed out our known case of a down being immune (broba), now Toad comes in throwing his accusations, saying failing of his recruitment makes people a cult, its just stupid.

Secondly, I agree with Mad (unfortunately) , There is absolutely no reason not to get rid of a known cult once and for all. That is the best move for the town.

So in a game with 15 total players... 6 of them starting as cult there were at least 3 players who were cult immune? You Cal and Broba? That leaves 6 players capable of being converted... and out of three tries I didn't get any of them but hit the immune ones instead?

and I agree, in a normal game killing a known cult is the only move... but what's the right move when there also 2 unknown cults?

@Drasnighta could you tell us once more why did you no shoot Broba on night 1? I admit that this part concerns me too.