This ship could have a 4-die primary and it would still barely be able to keep up with the game's power creep.

5 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

I'm thinking the following:

Statline:

4 3 4 3

Bullseye firing arc. Makes sense for a "superiority starfighter."

Upgrades would be system, tech, and cannon.

I would put money on 2 generic and 4 unique pilots.

Thoughts?

It's gona have... WINGS!

I do not understand the point of trying to speculate the stats of a ship we know literally nothing about.

That said, it's called the TIE Silencer so...obviously the Cloak action.

Tie/vn will just be another interceptor.

I think you can forget the 4/3 attack/agility combo. The only small base ship with a native 4 is the Phantom with 2 agility when decloaked.

I also think that a 4/3 hull/shield is unreasonable, especially if you have a 3 agility. With 3 agility figure on 5-6 total health.

3-3-3-3 like the Defender but unlikely.

4-2-4-2 or 4-2-3-3 or 4-1-4-2 are possibilities.

If only they treat it as if it might be Scum, then, it'll be great!

....joking aside, I just hope it has something that makes the real Star Wars Interceptors playable again ?

Not really caring, it is close enough to the Avenger for me.

3 minutes ago, Sithborg said:

Not really caring, it is close enough to the Avenger for me.

Very true, this will likely scratch the Avenger itch for me.

Id like to see 3-3-3-2 with Interceptor dial and actions along with either a system or tech upgrade... maybe both... and a missile or mine slot

My guess is similar to a lot of the comments so far.

3/3/3/2 - systems and tech. Definitely tech, I'm more so wishing for the systems slot.

A cloak action would be cool, providing a cheaper alternative to the Phantom. However, and this is purely speculation born of boredom, I think Kylo would have had his personal fighter designed with granddaddy's fighter in mind. When I think about Vader, and more so Kylo's mentality, and the first order mentality in general, I think invoking fear through a ruthless, brazen spectacle. Cloaking his ships and sneaking up on his enemies just doesn't seem very Kylo to me, and therefore doesn't seem very TIE Silencer to me.

I think it will be an 'in your face' ship, as said earlier, a Imperial version of the protectorate fighter with some extra tech.

I agree, 3/3/3/2 seems likely with a decent dial (TIE Advanced or better). The ship essentially looks like a TIE Advanced and an Interceptor had a baby and gave it a TIE Phantom mask for it's birthday (the style of the cockpit). It'll have a tech slot, probably system, maybe missiles. Focus, Target Lock, Barrel Roll, Boost. I think it should have a better dial than the TIE/sf and maybe the Adv, but I don't want it to be as "good" as the Defender since I don't want it to have that high of a cost. Low 30's for the highest PS pilot.

Att 4 (180 auxiliary arcs, bullseye arc, rear arc, PWT)

Def 4

hull 4

shield 4

focus, TL, BR, Boost, SLAM, cloak, reinforce

torp x 2, missile x 2, bomb x 2, crew x 2, system, tech, illicit, astromech, turret x 2, Cannon x 2

Kylo Ren ps 13, 20 pts.

EPT x 2

Kylo gets an action prior to revealing dial and normal action as well. Kylo also has his normal ability from the shuttle.

Kylo also attacks with primary and two secondaries each round.

btw, j/k

8 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

Att 4 (180 auxiliary arcs, bullseye arc, rear arc, PWT)

Def 4

hull 4

shield 4

focus, TL, BR, Boost, SLAM, cloak, reinforce

torp x 2, missile x 2, bomb x 2, crew x 2, system, tech, illicit, astromech, turret x 2, Cannon x 2

Kylo Ren ps 13, 20 pts.

EPT x 2

Kylo gets an action prior to revealing dial and normal action as well. Kylo also has his normal ability from the shuttle.

Kylo also attacks with primary and two secondaries each round.

btw, j/k

You pretty much got it. But do not forget this is the scum version of Kylo

34 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

Att 4 (180 auxiliary arcs, bullseye arc, rear arc, PWT)

Def 4

hull 4

shield 4

focus, TL, BR, Boost, SLAM, cloak, reinforce

torp x 2, missile x 2, bomb x 2, crew x 2, system, tech, illicit, astromech, turret x 2, Cannon x 2

Kylo Ren ps 13, 20 pts.

EPT x 2

Kylo gets an action prior to revealing dial and normal action as well. Kylo also has his normal ability from the shuttle.

Kylo also attacks with primary and two secondaries each round.

btw, j/k

Where is my moving special arc shadowcasterlike? This ship s***s man....

On 8/31/2017 at 8:44 AM, Celestial Lizards said:

I'm thinking the following:

Statline:

4 3 4 3

Bullseye firing arc. Makes sense for a "superiority starfighter."

Upgrades would be system, tech, and cannon.

I would put money on 2 generic and 4 unique pilots.

Thoughts?

we'd all love to play that statline but seeing that across the table... id just shake hands and walk away. at 40 points for the generics it might be balanced. its basically a defender with 1 extra attack, an extra hull, system, and tech, not to mention this thing probably hasnative barrel roll and boost.

the issue i see right off the bat is you put advanced sensors on an ace with autothrusters, ptl or E.I., now suddenly youre flying an HLC brobot that moves like Soontir. seems absolutely awesome, just needs to be priced accordingly.

all my assumptions are based on it being fast and maneuverable btw... decent dial and actions would combine powerfully with your given stats

My body is ready for a "First Order" treatment of the TIE Interceptor: +1 Shield, +S-loops, +Tech, +Action.

3 Attack
3 Agility
3 Hull
1 Shield

Focus, Cloak/Target Lock, Boost, Barrel Roll, Evade

Tech, and Elite for higher PS

Dial pretty similar to Fang fighter.

PS1 equivalent generic cost: 21-23 points (Target Lock vs Cloak).

On 8/31/2017 at 8:18 AM, Jo Jo said:

You are looking at a near 40 points for the generics with that statline. A Cannon would be kind of redundant on a 4 dice primary.

I think more like a 3/3/2/3 statline, and a near interceptor like dial with segnors instead of the 2nd k-turn. Maybe 3 green turns green instead of 2 speed as well. I think it will be like the Imperials version of the protectorate, but slightly beefier.

That dial and statline is almost exactly what I can up with as well in the first thread. It's just the most logical way to make it stand out from the other Empire superiority ace fighters, particularly with the s3 turns.

My guess is cloak action.

1 minute ago, All Shields Forward said:

My guess is cloak action.

The issue with that is that it would be incredibly difficult to balance without turning it into a either shittier clone of the Phantom or making the Phantom completely obsolete. With the former much more likely because ACD exists.

On 9/1/2017 at 1:46 AM, Gibbilo said:

TBH I think it would be awesome to see something like this

3/3/1/3 or 4/3/1/2

That can be the T-wing.

I'm with @ObiWonka . Almost certainly the same sort of thing for the Tie-Interceptor that the Tie-FO and T-70 are for the Tie fighter and X-wing.

Add 1 shield, give it some sloops or T-rolls, give it a tech slot. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, especially if it's shown to be more capable/special in the movie.

On 9/1/2017 at 2:26 AM, Gibbilo said:

On 9/1/2017 at 2:24 AM, Hannes Solo said:

a 4 3 1 2 Statline you can field 5 or 6 off?

Sry bro but your math is a bit off

care to do the math for me? Give the generic a ps1 and a ps3.

Using f0rbiddenc00kie's pricing method, presuming good actions and/or dial, the lowest generic should cost 24 points

it would be cool to see one or more of the pilots be more expensive but with better stats similar to the YT-1300's different attack values, which would allow for a single ace or pair of aces to be amazing but keep the generics cheap. if it does have 4 attack maybe give the ace 3 agility but the other pilots 2 agility, etc. that would solve a lot of the issues with people simply spamming them if theyre cheap vs. not playing them at all if they are expensive. logic being Darth Vadius or Baron Dodgelor is a fancy man who can fly well enough to dodge, but a gibroni who's never flown before hops in the same ship and flies headlong into a torpedo. I do that with a lot of my Strange Eons custom cards(made a 4th faction), seems to maintain balance while allowing one ship model to fill different roles. anyway at least this ship is a new model and not just a tie repaint, it looks lean and mean. First of the first order ships I dont find hideous

The 3 3 3 2 or 3 2 3 3 stats seem reasonable. Looking at model reviews its not all that small. I can see it being blisteringly quick but a bit of a pig on turns. Green 5 Red 5 loop Red 4 Loop ok on the banks but limited on the turns, nothing at speed 1. Target lock, Boost (or Slam), Focus and Reinforce (to bolster the shields). Slots would be Cannon, Missiles and System or 2 upgrade slots. This ship would be seen a lance to work along side the TIE fo and TIE sf. An upgrade card could be to fit a cannon up to 3 points and add 1 dice to the main attack.

Reminds me of what I would have stated out for the TIE Avenger:

att 3

Agi 3

Hull 3

shield 2

(right between TIE Advanced X1 and Defender)

focus, TL, BR, Evade

system, missile

Dial similar to defender except red 5k, white 5 straight, red 3 sloops, green 3 banks, and white 2 turns.

Kylo's new ship could be similar, or totally different. I'm sure it would at least be 'better' than the /sf. Also tech slot with a new tech upgrade!

7 hours ago, Olddog said:

The 3 3 3 2 or 3 2 3 3 stats seem reasonable. Looking at model reviews its not all that small. I can see it being blisteringly quick but a bit of a pig on turns. Green 5 Red 5 loop Red 4 Loop ok on the banks but limited on the turns, nothing at speed 1. Target lock, Boost (or Slam), Focus and Reinforce (to bolster the shields). Slots would be Cannon, Missiles and System or 2 upgrade slots. This ship would be seen a lance to work along side the TIE fo and TIE sf. An upgrade card could be to fit a cannon up to 3 points and add 1 dice to the main attack.

I don't buy this thing with less than three agility for one second.

I'd also still like to see this with a 2/3 hull/shield split as Empire doesn't have a ship with more shields then hull yet.

Dial wise I think it would be extremely interesting if it's greens looked like the Lancer's.