"I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home."

Please make and share your own ideas for upgrade and pilot cards (Strange Eons 3 recommended) on this thread to help us make a community custom expansion pack for the T-16 Skyhopper!

This ship has a bullseye firing arc for thematic reasons.

Cards:

Well, if you assume the dial is going to be roughly equivalent to the Bwing dial, and the cost is going to be similar to that of a bwing as well, all you have to do is evaluate how many points overcosted a bwing is now with the power creep the game has seen since the Bwings heyday.

So... 3 points?

Anywhere between 3 and 0 points I would say depending on how bad that dial is. Of course I don't know what a ship should cost anymore...

Hey, you know what would be cool?

The T-16 Skyhopper for ground battles.

Attack: 1 (Bullseye Firing Arc)

Agility: 2

Hull: 3

Shield: 0

Actions: Focus, Target Lock

Upgrades: Crew

Dial: like an X-wing with red 1 speed turns

This could be a training ship to practice "gitting gud" or for a "killing womp rats" mission.

1 hour ago, AwesomeJedi said:

Hey, you know what would be cool?

The T-16 Skyhopper for ground battles.

Attack: 1 (Bullseye Firing Arc)

Agility: 2

Hull: 3

Shield: 0

Actions: Focus, Target Lock

Upgrades: Crew

Dial: like an X-wing with red 1 speed turns

This could be a training ship to practice "gitting gud" or for a "killing womp rats" mission.

this could be fun/funny.

Voice 1 "The only shot left is your range three shot against my turtled up A-Wing without shields"

Voice 2 "Ok" *rolls crit* "One crit!"

1 *rolls three blanks and a focus* "I will spend my focu.."

2 "No."

1 "Fine! I'll spend my eva..."

2 "No."

1 "Ok, one face up damage card." *turns up direct hit* "Nooooooooooooooooo...!!"

2 "And that's game!"

On 8/28/2017 at 5:41 PM, AwesomeJedi said:

Hey, you know what would be cool?

The T-16 Skyhopper for ground battles.

Attack: 1 (Bullseye Firing Arc)

Agility: 2

Hull: 3

Shield: 0

Actions: Focus, Target Lock

Upgrades: Crew

Dial: like an X-wing with red 1 speed turns

This could be a training ship to practice "gitting gud" or for a "killing womp rats" mission.

I need ideas for upgrade cards.

Just now, AwesomeJedi said:

I need ideas for upgrade cards.

I thought it had 3 hull, otherwise this is overpriced.

upgrades:

•Beggar's canyon champion: EPT: When you reveal a maneuver, select an obstacle at range one that you are not overlapping, if it is at range one after your maneuver, and you did not overlap it, assign an evade token to your ship.

Cost: 2?

9 minutes ago, AwesomeJedi said:

I need ideas for upgrade cards.

Atmospheric stabilizers, t-16 skyhopper only, modification, 1pts
You may treat speed 3 turns as white maneuvers.

This...is one of the best things I've ever seen!

If you've ever played the Rouge Squadron 3D Bonus Mission where you race T-16s, here's an idea:

2 or 3 pt EPT or title.

"Beggar's Canyon Cheater:

If you're movement template or ship base overlaps an obstacle, and you are not in any friendly ship's firing arc, you may ignore that obstacle for the rest of the activation and combat phase.

If you are inside a friendly ship's firing arc, and overlap or land on any obstacle, receive a stress token in addition to the regular obstacle effects."

Not sure about the negative side of it, but may be a fun idea to balance it out.

How bout these?

Possible upgrades?

Dead to rights (0 or 1 pts)

EPT

When more than one enemy ship is inside your bullseye firing arc you may add one crit result to your primary weapon attack. This crit may not be cancelled by defensive dice.

True Marksman (2 pts)

EPT? (Maybe it works better as a pilot ability….)

You may only perform primary weapon attacks out of you'r “Bullseye” firing arc. When you

perform a primary weapon attack you may change all eyeball results to critical hits.

Farmhand (2 pts)

Crew

T-16 Sky hopper only

The first time you lose one shield you may discard this card to regenerate it.

Possible Pilot abilities

[Insert name here] PS 3

(No EPT)

When attacking from your bullseye firing arc you may roll one additional dice. When attacking any other way you “must” roll one less die.

[Insert name here] PS 6

(EPT)

If you are attacked from inside your “Bullseye” firing arc you may shoot back (like dengar but with the bullseye arc)

5 hours ago, GLEXOR said:

this could be fun/funny.

Voice 1 "The only shot left is your range three shot against my turtled up A-Wing without shields"

Voice 2 "Ok" *rolls crit* "One crit!"

1 *rolls three blanks and a focus* "I will spend my focu.."

2 "No."

1 "Fine! I'll spend my eva..."

2 "No."

1 "Ok, one face up damage card." *turns up direct hit* "Nooooooooooooooooo...!!"

2 "And that's game!"

Autothrusters bro. Thrusty thrust.

7 hours ago, GLEXOR said:

I thought it had 3 hull, otherwise this is overpriced.

upgrades:

•Beggar's canyon champion: EPT: When you reveal a maneuver, select an obstacle at range one that you are not overlapping, if it is at range one after your maneuver, and you did not overlap it, assign an evade token to your ship.

Cost: 2?

Beggar's Canyon Pilot sounds more like a title to me.

I'd probably just go with "After you execute a maneuver, if you did not overlap an obstacle, assigne an evade token to your ship if there is an obstacle at range 1.

The T-16 - certainly the 'boy racer' versions Luke and Biggs flew - probably ought to have Boost/Barrel Roll - maybe even the option of a free boost/roll. By comparison, whilst focus is a default action, I'd question if the civilian skyhopper would carry enough systems to qualify as 'target locking'!

'Bush Pilot' looks fine.

For named pilots, there are obvious 'classic' ones:

Luke Skywalker

Biggs Darklighter - a rather higher PS version with a better ability, I'd suggest! - something about 'clipping terrain' to give him a boost - sort of 'Dash Rendar but more so'

"Fixer"

"Deak"

I might suggest one of the above as crew cards as copilots?

I'd agree with adding hits when in a bullseye arc - even with unmodified green dice is likely to do nothing.

If you wanted an EPT, then "Thread The Needle" sounds about right - it's a "I can fit, I can fit!" ability - which sounds like a one-use ability to reward you landing 'just so'.

My suggestion would be something along the lines of provided you didn't collide with a ship or overlap an obstacle, you may discard the card to get [bonus] for every 2 ships or obstacles at range 1 of you (rerolls? Extra dice?)

9 hours ago, GLEXOR said:

I thought it had 3 hull, otherwise this is overpriced.

upgrades:

•Beggar's canyon champion: EPT: When you reveal a maneuver, select an obstacle at range one that you are not overlapping, if it is at range one after your maneuver, and you did not overlap it, assign an evade token to your ship.

Cost: 2?

I changed it to two hull at at last moment hoping to compensate for the bullseye firing arc. Should I make the hull value 3?

1 hour ago, Magnus Grendel said:

Beggar's Canyon Pilot sounds more like a title to me.

I'd probably just go with "After you execute a maneuver, if you did not overlap an obstacle, assigne an evade token to your ship if there is an obstacle at range 1.

The T-16 - certainly the 'boy racer' versions Luke and Biggs flew - probably ought to have Boost/Barrel Roll - maybe even the option of a free boost/roll. By comparison, whilst focus is a default action, I'd question if the civilian skyhopper would carry enough systems to qualify as 'target locking'!

'Bush Pilot' looks fine.

For named pilots, there are obvious 'classic' ones:

Luke Skywalker

Biggs Darklighter - a rather higher PS version with a better ability, I'd suggest! - something about 'clipping terrain' to give him a boost - sort of 'Dash Rendar but more so'

"Fixer"

"Deak"

I might suggest one of the above as crew cards as copilots?

I'd agree with adding hits when in a bullseye arc - even with unmodified green dice is likely to do nothing.

If you wanted an EPT, then "Thread The Needle" sounds about right - it's a "I can fit, I can fit!" ability - which sounds like a one-use ability to reward you landing 'just so'.

My suggestion would be something along the lines of provided you didn't collide with a ship or overlap an obstacle, you may discard the card to get [bonus] for every 2 ships or obstacles at range 1 of you (rerolls? Extra dice?)

Yes, Luke needs to be a pilot.

Why don't we make this a community project? Anyone can submit cards for this expansion. It would help me, because I have school for most of the day so I don't have access to a computer until the evening. Plus, it would kind of be interesting because this has never been done before.

So Awesome are these going to be in a PDF file once all said and done? Looks really cool, I think the only pilots should be younger Luke and Biggs, I'm also think maybe 2 attack dice??? Not sure just kinda of putting it out there. Would the ship be able to take hull and shield upgrades?

3 minutes ago, Ghostrider58 said:

So Awesome are these going to be in a PDF file once all said and done?

Where did I say PDF?

4 minutes ago, Ghostrider58 said:

Looks really cool

Thank you.

4 minutes ago, Ghostrider58 said:

I'm also think maybe 2 attack dice??? Not sure just kinda of putting it out there. Would the ship be able to take hull and shield upgrades?

Actually, some civilian models have no guns, but some are equipped with a single laser cannon, hence the one attack. However, this ship has a bullseye firing arc to make up for it. The option to take hull and shield modification upgrade cards are no concern because the ship would still not be broken with them.

45 minutes ago, AwesomeJedi said:

Should I make the hull value 3?

I think so. If you look at the TIE fighter, for just two points more you get a better dial, +1 attack albeit without the bullseye, +1 agility, +1 hull, -1 crew, -TL, +BR, +evade. I think 3 hull would be fair for a ten point ship, still the most fragile ship, but fair for ten points.

I think Fixer should be a scum pilot, not a crew, not rebel, scum. Gosh that guy is a maniac! He actually SHOOTS at Luke Skywalker!

I was just asking Awesome that's all....:)

2 hours ago, Ghostrider58 said:

I was just asking Awesome that's all....:)

If you want me to make a PDF, I can. It wouldn't be to much of a problem for me. Sorry if I sounded rude or anything.

On 8/29/2017 at 6:13 AM, GLEXOR said:

On 8/29/2017 at 5:18 AM, AwesomeJedi said:

Should I make the hull value 3?

I think so.

Remeber that if anyone has an idea for upgrade cards or pilot cards, please go ahead and make your ideas into cards (Strange Eons 3 recommended) and share them on this thread.

No worries Awesome you did a great job with this as a PDF I can use for some super casual X-Wings games with my group, and yes we have talked about the Skyhopper and what kind of ship it would look like.

On 8/30/2017 at 3:52 PM, AwesomeJedi said:

If you want me to make a PDF, I can. It wouldn't be to much of a problem for me. Sorry if I sounded rude or anything.

Remeber that if anyone has an idea for upgrade cards or pilot cards, please go ahead and make your ideas into cards (Strange Eons 3 recommended) and share them on this thread.

How do you send Strange Eons cards as Photos?

Remember, the T-16 can achieve orbit, so it belongs in this game just as much as the TIE Striker.

I also propose that Luke's pilot card is listed as 'Wormie'.

upgrade card:

Militia Refit (title) T-16 only

increase primary attack value by one.

3 points?

12 hours ago, GLEXOR said:

How do you send Strange Eons cards as Photos?

First you need to go to file > export. Then export it as an image suitabe for printing. Then, I put the cards on a Google Doc (Microsoft Word would work), do I can copy and paste the card onto the forum. That is how I upload cards with out using a hosting site.

35 minutes ago, AwesomeJedi said:

First you need to go to file > export. Then export it as an image suitabe for printing. Then, I put the cards on a Google Doc (Microsoft Word would work), do I can copy and paste the card onto the forum. That is how I upload cards with out using a hosting site.

I'll try that as soon as my computer starts working again.

If I were to stat it the way it felt in the games I played, I would give it 3 maneuver and 2 hull. Seemed a lot more nimble than an X-Wing, but fragile.

Blugh, I have always hated this ship.