Is it wrong that I'm mostly just annoyed because I was counting on the sequel trilogy to bring me cool new ships for armada?

I don't know if this has been said, but the fact that they continue to design huge star ships for the series means you kind of end up with one of very few conclusions. We are either going to get huge ships in Armada or the game will die eventually due to lack of content. Depending on your view of a possible SSD, that is either awesome or poop inducing.

17 hours ago, Noosh said:

Do you think the will play Captain Planet, Voltron, or Power Rangers? Imthinkin Power Rangers.

I can see 4 or 9, but how does 8 work?

1 hour ago, Battlefleet 01 Studios said:

Everything about these new films has been almost Jar Jar Binks rediculous. Rey knowing how do things it took others years of training to learn, the First Order building ANOTHER Death Star, Kylo Ren's sparkly lightsaber, the fact that NO ONE seemed to learn anything from RotJ and just went back to doing "what they were good at". Kinda undermines the character development of the entire OT (mostly Han)

Yeah, Han's part especially rubs me the wrong way and Starkiller Base was just unnecessary.

I really think the movie was much better before Han showed up, after that it gets bogged down.

I'd give them a pass on the saber and maybe even Rey. I am willing to overlook some things and give them some room but in general I agree.

1 hour ago, Doppelganger said:

Yeah, Han's part especially rubs me the wrong way and Starkiller Base was just unnecessary.

I really think the movie was much better before Han showed up, after that it gets bogged down.

I'd give them a pass on the saber and maybe even Rey. I am willing to overlook some things and give them some room but in general I agree.

It kinda snubs Lucas. He had everything all tied up at the end of Episode VI and Disney basically gave him the finger by making everything fall apart in VII.

2 hours ago, ImpStarDeuces said:

Depending on your view of a possible SSD, that is either awesome or poop inducing.

Or both.

I like the new stuff and think that anyone who disagrees lacks taste, refinement, and character, so there!

50 minutes ago, Deathseed said:

I like the new stuff and think that anyone who disagrees lacks taste, refinement, and character, so there!

7 hours ago, Doppelganger said:

I'd give them a pass on the saber and maybe even Rey. I am willing to overlook some things and give them some room but in general I agree.

What's wrong with the saber?

On 25.8.2017 at 11:57 PM, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

What's wrong with the saber?

For me? Nothing really. Design nitpicks.

On 8/25/2017 at 8:57 AM, Battlefleet 01 Studios said:

It kinda snubs Lucas. He had everything all tied up at the end of Episode VI and Disney basically gave him the finger by making everything fall apart in VII.

And it makes no sense for the story. As told by Lucas, the entire 6-episode arc was a fairly classic sort of 'Greek tragedy' kind of thing, with the rise, fall, and redemption (in death, because 'tragedy') of Anakin Skywalker.

But here comes episode VII "...and then all this also happened".

Fans of the OT originally complained about the prequels as they saw the story as being about the civil war, and the Rebellion's fight and final victory (even though we saw so little of that). The prequels 'changing' the story into Anakin's arc (which it really was all along, but whatever). But the new trilogy is just...kinda of there. While it has some fan-favorite characters from the original trilogy, it so far has no connection to the prequels at all, so feels strangely distinct - it doesn't even try to fit into or extent the six-episode story told from the movies. (At least, so far - who knows, maybe we'll find out Snoke really is Jar Jar and the whole thing was a massive long-play by the most sinister master of deception the galaxy had ever seen, the entirety of the Sith and Jedi order just his puppets he played against each other like the Separatists and Republic were in the Clone Wars. I mean, it'd be stupid as ****, but at least it would try to make the final 9-episode story into some kind of singular arc.)

Anyway - the same is true of the ships - the Republic Cruiser we see from the opening scene of Episode I has clear design queues from/to the CR-90, and the Acclamator- and Venator- class ships from II and III to the later Imperial designs. What we see here is more "we need something to look cool, so let's get some 12-year olds together and give them a basic instruction like 'angry triangles, but cool' and see what they can come up with!"

4 hours ago, xanderf said:

And it makes no sense for the story. As told by Lucas, the entire 6-episode arc was a fairly classic sort of 'Greek tragedy' kind of thing, with the rise, fall, and redemption (in death, because 'tragedy') of Anakin Skywalker.

But here comes episode VII "...and then all this also happened".

Fans of the OT originally complained about the prequels as they saw the story as being about the civil war, and the Rebellion's fight and final victory (even though we saw so little of that). The prequels 'changing' the story into Anakin's arc (which it really was all along, but whatever). But the new trilogy is just...kinda of there. While it has some fan-favorite characters from the original trilogy, it so far has no connection to the prequels at all, so feels strangely distinct - it doesn't even try to fit into or extent the six-episode story told from the movies. (At least, so far - who knows, maybe we'll find out Snoke really is Jar Jar and the whole thing was a massive long-play by the most sinister master of deception the galaxy had ever seen, the entirety of the Sith and Jedi order just his puppets he played against each other like the Separatists and Republic were in the Clone Wars. I mean, it'd be stupid as ****, but at least it would try to make the final 9-episode story into some kind of singular arc.)

Anyway - the same is true of the ships - the Republic Cruiser we see from the opening scene of Episode I has clear design queues from/to the CR-90, and the Acclamator- and Venator- class ships from II and III to the later Imperial designs. What we see here is more "we need something to look cool, so let's get some 12-year olds together and give them a basic instruction like 'angry triangles, but cool' and see what they can come up with!"

I'm glad you feel the same way.

In defence of the new trillogy, they kinda have to of made it the way it was. Hear me out on this. Look if your going to tell a story, you need to; make it acessable to all, and build your charaters so they can stand alone without exscuse. What disney did was smart 15 year seperate the Nt from the previous and doubly that for the OT. Even in this modern era of watch it now, it is very dangerous to lean to heavily on older matieral (espeshially that old). Relying on your audince havin TONS of backround knowlege is bad and can make your story unacessable. So they did the smart thing, they used a tried and tru set up to build new charaters from the ground up so they can stand on thier own. All the while throwing in old charaters and nuggets o stuff that those of us 'in the know' go "i get it". I do not approve the nigh blatant remake of a new hope, but i will say that other have done much worse in their shoes. For all the potential disaster that could of been (im lookin at the prequal trillogy here) they handeled themself well enough that im not mad they did it. And after rouge one im glad they have it for now......but i will sit and wait for the day of their faliure, waiting for another to restore it to glory.

39 minutes ago, Noosh said:

In defence of the new trillogy, they kinda have to of made it the way it was. Hear me out on this. Look if your going to tell a story, you need to; make it acessable to all, and build your charaters so they can stand alone without exscuse. What disney did was smart 15 year seperate the Nt from the previous and doubly that for the OT. Even in this modern era of watch it now, it is very dangerous to lean to heavily on older matieral (espeshially that old). Relying on your audince havin TONS of backround knowlege is bad and can make your story unacessable. So they did the smart thing, they used a tried and tru set up to build new charaters from the ground up so they can stand on thier own.

I don't oppose the ideas of the new trilogy, per se (although the execution has certainly been hit or miss)...I just think it is mistake making them part of the Star Wars 'episodes'.

IE., I've seen nothing at all that indicates TFA or TLJ really were the seventh and eighth part of the same story that the first six movies were telling. I just...can't see it. Why not just call it a new series of movies? IE., calling TFA 'Star Wars The Next Generation: Episode I' and TLJ 'Star Wars The Next Generation: Episode II' or whatever, and now everyone is happy. Just like Rogue One (an awesome film that fits in the universe perfectly) didn't call itself an 'Episode [number]' in the original story, because it wasn't, I don't see how TFA is either.

The flat surface with the bowl-shaped depression and wide flat bridge mean that a Finalizer class star destroyer can dock onto the top, right?

Well put, xanderf. To me, TFA was "casual" SW that doubled as outright fan service. It pulled (yanked) on all the right nostalgia strings while making it accessible to a newer crowd. Other than total purists, everyone took the bait and were satisfied even though we knew it was esentially nothing more than a soft reboot. I'll admit it, I was fooled. I loved TFA and was blinded by all of its shortcomings just because, well, Star Wars! After R1 came out, however, the veil was dropped and I saw it for what it was. R1 just felt so perfectly familiar while retaining its distinctiveness, it resonates with me so much that not only did it lift the veil on TFA, but it also made me ambivalent towards TLJ. Im still hopeful I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I'm counting on it. Something tells me, the quality of the next two movies (Han Solo included) will be more of the same. I'm excited for Obi-Wan, though. Assuming they sign Ewan...

Say what you will about the Lucas and the PT (I'll say it for you, other than ROTS and Maul, they were pretty terrible) but at least he stuck to his guns and told the story he envisioned, not the one we desired.

2 hours ago, D503 said:

The flat surface with the bowl-shaped depression and wide flat bridge mean that a Finalizer class star destroyer can dock onto the top, right?

Now that you point it out, I think it can...

On 8/25/2017 at 9:48 AM, ImpStarDeuces said:

I don't know if this has been said, but the fact that they continue to design huge star ships for the series means you kind of end up with one of very few conclusions. We are either going to get huge ships in Armada or the game will die eventually due to lack of content. Depending on your view of a possible SSD, that is either awesome or poop inducing.

Well they could always sort of just put the Finalizer in the Large ship category I guess and they keep the really huge ships saved for SSD sized epic play, though I wonder what the Finalizer would do better than the ISD aside from more but at a higher price.

On 8/25/2017 at 11:57 AM, Battlefleet 01 Studios said:

It kinda snubs Lucas. He had everything all tied up at the end of Episode VI and Disney basically gave him the finger by making everything fall apart in VII.

Especially considering Lucas gave them his notes for a new trilogy and they just tossed them out.

22 hours ago, xanderf said:

And it makes no sense for the story. As told by Lucas, the entire 6-episode arc was a fairly classic sort of 'Greek tragedy' kind of thing, with the rise, fall, and redemption (in death, because 'tragedy') of Anakin Skywalker.

But here comes episode VII "...and then all this also happened".

Fans of the OT originally complained about the prequels as they saw the story as being about the civil war, and the Rebellion's fight and final victory (even though we saw so little of that). The prequels 'changing' the story into Anakin's arc (which it really was all along, but whatever). But the new trilogy is just...kinda of there. While it has some fan-favorite characters from the original trilogy, it so far has no connection to the prequels at all, so feels strangely distinct - it doesn't even try to fit into or extent the six-episode story told from the movies. (At least, so far - who knows, maybe we'll find out Snoke really is Jar Jar and the whole thing was a massive long-play by the most sinister master of deception the galaxy had ever seen, the entirety of the Sith and Jedi order just his puppets he played against each other like the Separatists and Republic were in the Clone Wars. I mean, it'd be stupid as ****, but at least it would try to make the final 9-episode story into some kind of singular arc.)

Anyway - the same is true of the ships - the Republic Cruiser we see from the opening scene of Episode I has clear design queues from/to the CR-90, and the Acclamator- and Venator- class ships from II and III to the later Imperial designs. What we see here is more "we need something to look cool, so let's get some 12-year olds together and give them a basic instruction like 'angry triangles, but cool' and see what they can come up with!"

That is a fair point though I guess if they go with the Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin/Chosen One then it has at least some connection that way, showing his fall, redemption, and becoming a hero. I guess that also sort of puts a weird spin on the idea of the Star Wars universe having reincarnation like Avatar the Last Airbender.

And yea while some might not like them the ships and designs in the PT had inspiration but were their own thing whereas the ST tends to go with bigger or pallet swap stuff.

4 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

Especially considering Lucas gave them his notes for a new trilogy and they just tossed them out.

That still makes me really really angry.