Linked Batteries speculation

By RufusDaMan, in X-Wing

2 minutes ago, ABXY said:

So, now we move on to the Jamming Beam!!!

Attack: A...

If this attack hits

assign the defender

1 jam token then

cancel all dice results.

:)

Sounds legit. It's actually great on the TIE/D, token stripping before attacking with a primary.

5 minutes ago, ABXY said:

So, now we move on to the Jamming Beam!!!

Attack: A...

If this attack hits

assign the defender

1 jam token then

cancel all dice results.

:)

That seems to be correct. Header would read " Attack : Attack 1 ship" as in Flechette Cannon. No clue about range and red dice though.

3 minutes ago, RufusDaMan said:

Sounds legit. It's actually great on the TIE/D, token stripping before attacking with a primary.

Depends on the range and cost - as to compete with Tractor at 1pt for lowering defences.

I expected more synergy from this pack. The title should allow 3 point cannons for Ion to be included. I really don't see any reason to pick the cannon title :/

These two cannons alone are making me look forward to the S-Wing.

And there's still a new non-unique EPT to come!

Yup, I am wondering about the ion cannon too! I wonder if they think it conflicts too much with the tie/d.

13 minutes ago, RufusDaMan said:

Now if we assume this to be the correct version... it ain't that great. You can only use it with the cannon title Gunboat, but then you can only use the 2 points cannons, so you will have to rely on your missiles and reload action anyway for doing damage.

:/ Not that impressed. Looks like a trap card. For 2 points getting a simple re-roll on a **** weapon is not a great deal.

Seems like the missile title for me

It works on primary weapons too.

Though, that's pretty much the B Wing and TIE Defender at that stage. Not many small base Cannons with worthwhile primaries.

I'm assuming that the Jamming Beam will be range 1-3, 3 dice, attack 1 ship, assign 1 jam and cancel all dice on a hit, 1 point.

1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said:

Though, that's pretty much the B Wing and TIE Defender at that stage. Not many small base Cannons with worthwhile primaries.

Probably just the B-Wing. If you want to hit bigger, just pick TIE/D, its better than this.

1 minute ago, RufusDaMan said:

I expected more synergy from this pack. The title should allow 3 point cannons for Ion to be included. I really don't see any reason to pick the cannon title :/

The title doesn't stop you equipping the more costly cannons, just from firing them when disabled.

IF 'Linked' comes in at 1pt, I could see it as a worthwhile upgrade to a more impactful main cannon.

Yup. Paying 5 points for a mangler with 2 built in rerolls (or 8 points for an HLC with the same) on a ship which with the best will in the world, doesn't have great action economy, seems like a great idea.

Assuming that point value is correct. Knowing the correct pricing for a 2 die reroll is tough - Dengar is basically a 2 die reroll in the current meta, but he's unique and in a highly valuable slot. I wouldn't be surprised to see a blanket 2 die reroll costing 3 points, sadly.

In that case I feel like I am paying points for something I don't use. A game should never make me do that. Don't make redundant and obsolete mechanics.... It is just clutter on the card and it gets my hopes up.


(also if this was a scum ship it could doubletap at least)

4 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

I wouldn't be surprised to see a blanket 2 die reroll costing 3 points, sadly.

My gut feeling is that it's 1 die and 2pts (only optimism inclines me towards the 1pt mark)

1 minute ago, RufusDaMan said:

In that case I feel like I am paying points for something I don't use. A game should never make me do that. Don't make redundant and obsolete mechanics.... It is just clutter on the card and it gets my hopes up.


(also if this was a scum ship it could doubletap at least)

WHat do you mean paying points for something you don't use?

You can use LBs in this suggested format plus TBeam or Jamming Beam or FLechette Cannon with the title. Flechette in particular is a solid choice, a 3 die primary weapon will often only do one damage anyway in the current meta.

Gah, why'd this have to be small ship only? It would be cracking on IG-88. It's not like IG-88s are rocking anyone's world right now. Or firesprays. Jeez.

Still, a free re-roll for primary or cannon attacks is nothing to sneeze at. You could easily have 3 gunboats with HLCs and free re-rolls.

1 minute ago, RufusDaMan said:

In that case I feel like I am paying points for something I don't use. A game should never make me do that. Don't make redundant and obsolete mechanics.... It is just clutter on the card and it gets my hopes up.

Fair point... I momentarily forgot the 1pt you need to pay just to access the twin cannon slots... couple that with even a 1pt costed 'Battery' and you've got a 2pt tax on the main cannon you choose for the gain of a reroll.

4 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Y ou can use LBs in this suggested format plus TBeam or Jamming Beam or FLechette Cannon with the title. Flechette in particular is a solid choice, a 3 die primary weapon will often only do one damage anyway in the current meta.

Another fair point - have they cleverly devised a way for the Flechette to become relevant.

Edited by ABXY
1 minute ago, ABXY said:

Fair point... I momentarily forgot the 1pt you need to pay just to access the twin cannon slots... couple that with even a 1pt costed 'Battery' and you've got a 2pt tax on the main cannon you choose for the gain of a reroll.

Just for 1 point more (and that assumes a 1 point battery. Otherwise same price) I could get predator which does the same, but on everything, and I still get to equip a proper cannon next to my jamming beam. Linked Battery is a trap.

But bear in mind that Predator usually gives you just 1 re-roll and that's 3 points. Given this is likely a single re-roll that critically doesn't take up an EPT slot, 3 points total seems... pretty good really.

1 minute ago, RufusDaMan said:

... Linked Battery is a trap.

Not if on a B-Wing ;) :D

Edited by ABXY

Except you're paying that point anyway to get the slot.

I am pretty concerned personally that the Gunboat will be too expensive. Vynder's pricing makes me thing that Nu squadron will be 20 points which means 5 of them is only possible without upgrades and 2/4/3/2 for 20 points isn't going to touch anything, basically. That's a significantly worse statline than the Kihraxz, for the same price.

If "Linked Batteries" allows you to re-roll 1 attack die the cost will be 3. The precedent is already set with Predator and since this works with primaries as well as cannons it's not very different. If it lets you re-roll 2 attack dice I would expect the cost to be 4 or 5.

Just my two cents though I really hope this is not the case.

Just now, The Inquisitor said:

But bear in mind that Predator usually gives you just 1 re-roll and that's 3 points. Given this is likely a single re-roll that critically doesn't take up an EPT slot, 3 points total seems... pretty good really.

But you get a re-roll on what?

Either you get a no-damage or flechette cannon, which is pretty bad

Or you equip a bigger cannon, but then you are paying for an ability that you can't use (attack while slamming)

49 minutes ago, RufusDaMan said:

Now if we assume this to be the correct version... it ain't that great. You can only use it with the cannon title Gunboat, but then you can only use the 2 points cannons, so you will have to rely on your missiles and reload action anyway for doing damage.

:/ Not that impressed. Looks like a trap card. For 2 points getting a simple re-roll on a **** weapon is not a great deal.

Seems like the missile title for me

We don't know the point cost. It could easily be 0 like chips.

12 minutes ago, spartan1128 said:

If "Linked Batteries" allows you to re-roll 1 attack die the cost will be 3. The precedent is already set with Predator and since this works with primaries as well as cannons it's not very different. If it lets you re-roll 2 attack dice I would expect the cost to be 4 or 5.

Just my two cents though I really hope this is not the case.

Except it only fits in a cannon slot rather than an elite slot... so cost could easily be lower.

Yes, I think you take a heavy cannon and suck up that one point just for the slot, but you still get a predator analog without taking up another slot. We still need to see cost and pilot abilities and so on and so forth to say whether it's actually good but so far free re-rolls are pretty good. Dengar is damned undercosted at 3 points and I think he'd be pretty good even if he only gave 1 re-roll because he doesn't take up that EPT slot.