I am opinionated for sure. I don't see anything wrong with that. I am passionate about this hobby, that's all.

About patronizing. Sorry, didn't mean it that way, but I am less than sober at this point. Might be a little edgy.

Hay guies.

Sunny Bounder, heavy scyk, linked battery.

Just now, Rakaydos said:

Hay guies.

Sunny Bounder, heavy scyk, linked battery.

That's... an aggravating ship to encounter.

32 minutes ago, Rakaydos said:

Hay guies.

Sunny Bounder, heavy scyk, linked battery.

Record_scratch.wav

I'm hoping for 0 points. The reason why Id like it to be strong is that it would buff bwings (which are currently never seen so wouldnt get broken) and differentiates them from xwings. Then, if the xwing gets a movement related buff (flight... astro) we will finallyhave two very distinct ships.

On the imp sides it would buff the gun boat and provide an option (albeit not a great one) for defenders. I think that 1pt /d tractor is still better.

3 minutes ago, MaxPower said:

I'm hoping for 0 points. The reason why Id like it to be strong is that it would buff bwings (which are currently never seen so wouldnt get broken) and differentiates them from xwings. Then, if the xwing gets a movement related buff (flight... astro) we will finallyhave two very distinct ships.

On the imp sides it would buff the gun boat and provide an option (albeit not a great one) for defenders. I think that 1pt /d tractor is still better.

I think B-Wings could certainly stand the little extra love. But TIE/Ds absolutely still want Tractor or possibly Jam if the price is right.

Yeah linked ain't so great on defenders, it's really for the boat

Not that that's a bad thing, because the defender doesn't need it. The x7 defender is still incredibly potent and I'd bet on it over something like a linked B any **** day

I'd also bet on a linked boat over the B because it's far more manueverable and therefore defensively capable

6 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

Yeah linked ain't so great on defenders, it's really for the boat

Not that that's a bad thing, because the defender doesn't need it. The x7 defender is still incredibly potent and I'd bet on it over something like a linked B any **** day

I'd also bet on a linked boat over the B because it's far more manueverable and therefore defensively capable

/x7 defenders generally means either Vessery with his free rerolls or Ryad with her utter disdain for stress and PtL to get evade focus TL every turn anyways. And of course it's pointless to take with /D because it doesn't actually shoot anything, and why would you consider a titleless defender?

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

Yeah linked ain't so great on defenders, it's really for the boat

Not that that's a bad thing, because the defender doesn't need it. The x7 defender is still incredibly potent and I'd bet on it over something like a linked B any **** day

I'd also bet on a linked boat over the B because it's far more manueverable and therefore defensively capable

It's more for the B-wing than the boat really. Unless you go bonkers with cannons and equip a mangler or HLC (and ignore the title) But I doubt that is cost effective.

I haven't seen the dial yet, so who knows about that

I feel like it's going to be one reroll, and zero points:

- The small ship only limitation eliminates the risk that it would overpower anything currently released (IGs being the most likely candidates).

- It doesn't really affect TIE defenders because it's anti-synergistic with other both titles.

- Heavy Scyks with this cannon have a 2 attack value. Maybe (maybe) this brings them up to the point where a Scyk swarm is competitive with a TIE swarm, but it'd be a close run thing, and TIE swarms are getting less competitive with every bomb and area effect weapon FFG releases, so any overpowering is unlikely.

- The potential for HLC rerolls on the gunboat or primary rerolls on B Wings is the only place where this is likely to have an impact worth more than a zero point cost. B Wings need the help, and at a (likely) 29 points for the generic, a HLC gunboat with one reroll is... fine. It's a nice filler ship, not likely to set the world on fire, probably priced appropriately (maybe even a little much given that your title has no effect beyond the slots now) next to comparable ordnance boats (say, 25 points with concussion missiles and guidance chips, or 27 with Harpoon missiles and Advanced SLAM).

At any other price point or number of rerolls it doesn't make sense. If it's more than one reroll, FFG would have inserted "up to" into the text (as in "You may reroll up to 2 attack dice"), and there doesn't seem to be room for that. And at even one point, I just don't see it being taken. Generic B wings or swarmy Scyks can't afford it, and equipping this with the title and a flechette cannon would come to 4 points, for a reroll on a cannon that you use, what, roughly one turn in three with a damage cap of one? Nah. Maybe (maybe) if the title had been free, but not when we know it isn't.

One reroll. Zero points. Calling it.

14 hours ago, Ladrillito said:

Totally true!

I'm not entirely happy with the placement of the "Small ship only" line. Limited was a decent call, but I dont think it lines up all that well, and only ever applies to a 2 attack die ship.

Previously, I had throught it might be a dual card, as that fits the spacing better, but there's no room for flip mechanics, and no obvous counterpart to be the other side.

But there's something else that might fit.

With small ship only, Rebels could use it with Bwing, Scum could use it with the M3A, and the empire can use it with the Gunboat. (also the Tie Defender, but Tie D double tap is strictly better than a reroll.)

But if they had included large base ships, the selection opens to the YT2400 (yay Eaton Vrill, boo dash), Party Bus, Brobots, scum Firespray, Imperial firespray, and Lambada shuttle.

Making it an upgrade the Imperial Bounty Hunter can take, that the scum Mandalorian Mercenary can not, is a step toward "fixing" the imperial firespray. And boosting the lambada's offence on the cheap may help it find a role outside being a palpmobile.

I'm sad it's small ship only. If it granted rerolls for cannon attacks, it might've been the push the Agressor needed to come back out and play. Cannon-based Predator!

"Small ship or imperial only" doesn't line up particularly well to the card image. The W should start at about the same horizontal position as the M in Small ship. With "Small ship or Imperial only" it instead starts at the same position as the A in Small ship. So, no, that's not it I think.

On 8/24/2017 at 1:40 AM, Lyynark said:

"Small ship or imperial only" doesn't line up particularly well to the card image. The W should start at about the same horizontal position as the M in Small ship. With "Small ship or Imperial only" it instead starts at the same position as the A in Small ship. So, no, that's not it I think.

Small ship AND Imperial only

3 minutes ago, Lobokai said:

Small ship AND Imperial only

That would be just the gunboat. Not really a useful card.

On 8/23/2017 at 11:40 PM, Lyynark said:

"Small ship or imperial only" doesn't line up particularly well to the card image. The W should start at about the same horizontal position as the M in Small ship. With "Small ship or Imperial only" it instead starts at the same position as the A in Small ship. So, no, that's not it I think.

I think there's font changes, because you can either line up with the text or line up with the card name, and there's no other card names close enough to fit.

Limited means that the gunboat cannot equip it twice, and nothing else. Cant have the gunboat rerolling both dice on primary attacks, after all. :/

"or Rebel only" allows Eaton Vrill a reroll on his boosted primary, and possibly a boost for WSF, but cannonless YT2400s arnt exactly tearing up the meta.

"Or Scum only" allows advanced sensor brobot to take this twice, or take it once with HLC. Also can be taken on the YV, and most devastatingly of all, Tail Gunner Kath Scarlett. Definately the most broken option.

"or imperial only" is Lambada and Imperial Firespray. I find that to be the most likely.

"Dual card" There's no room for flip mechanics. What would the flip side be?

I think it will reroll 2 dice. Calling it here.

3 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:

I think it will reroll 2 dice. Calling it here.

It would have to reroll EXACLTY 2 dice- there's no room for "up to x dice" wording.

This also means that Sunny Bounder cant reroll 0 dice to trigger her ability.

On 8/24/2017 at 2:23 PM, Rakaydos said:

I'm not entirely happy with the placement of the "Small ship only" line. Limited was a decent call, but I dont think it lines up all that well, and only ever applies to a 2 attack die ship.

Previously, I had throught it might be a dual card, as that fits the spacing better, but there's no room for flip mechanics, and no obvous counterpart to be the other side.

But there's something else that might fit.

With small ship only, Rebels could use it with Bwing, Scum could use it with the M3A, and the empire can use it with the Gunboat. (also the Tie Defender, but Tie D double tap is strictly better than a reroll.)

But if they had included large base ships, the selection opens to the YT2400 (yay Eaton Vrill, boo dash), Party Bus, Brobots, scum Firespray, Imperial firespray, and Lambada shuttle.

Making it an upgrade the Imperial Bounty Hunter can take, that the scum Mandalorian Mercenary can not, is a step toward "fixing" the imperial firespray. And boosting the lambada's offence on the cheap may help it find a role outside being a palpmobile.

I really wish it wasn't small ship only. I probably would have used a missile laden WSF if linked battery were compatible, as it might have given WSF a needed boost for after its alpha strike. It would have been great on a Firespray too.

It will see play on my B-wings though, it can't see it being used on ships other than the gunboat and B-wing though (with its current assumed wording).

Say its 2pts, that will allow for 4x Blue Squadron B-wings w/Linked Battery and Collision Detector/electronic Baffle.

It would also allow for 3x Nu Squadron gunboats (assuming they are around 20-22pts) w/ XG-1, Linked Battery, Mangler Cannon and Harpoon Missiles. I think this could be a very exciting combo for imp players, and incredibly frustrating for non-imp players

On 8/23/2017 at 8:39 AM, Nhoj4 said:

Thinking it's this:

"When you perform a primary or [cannon] secondary attack, you may reload."

That's not bad,but I'm hoping it's something more along the lines of your guess. My interpretation would mean you would want to take missiles and torps, but you're taking the title that focuses on cannons.

An interesting buff, but it wouldn't address the TIE Bomber or Punisher at all.

On 8/24/2017 at 0:53 AM, Rakaydos said:

completely off-topic, but when you inflate the Cannon Icon like that it kinda looks like a Revolver with a really tiny barrel and a muzzle flare and now I will never be able to see it any other way

At only one re-roll for the cost of a cannon slot this thing had better be zero points. Knowing FFG, I'm guessing two points.

43 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

At only one re-roll for the cost of a cannon slot this thing had better be zero points. Knowing FFG, I'm guessing two points.

Well, we had opposite expectations of gchips so...fingers crossed?

The basic question is whether it's costed as a fix or a normal upgrade. Hopefully, fix.

10 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

Well, we had opposite expectations of gchips so...fingers crossed?

It's easier to be pleasantly surprised once in a while than it is to be let down all the time. Still, here's hoping for a 0 point Linked Battery, 19 point Nu Squadron, and an EPT on Rho Squadron.

17 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

It's easier to be pleasantly surprised once in a while than it is to be let down all the time. Still, here's hoping for a 0 point Linked Battery, 19 point Nu Squadron, and an EPT on Rho Squadron.

Dare to dream the reasonable dream