After 20'Years...Not Called "Assault Gunboat"

By lntrn8, in X-Wing

I think you can bring four of them. Flights of 4 ships are the better configuration anyway. Nu squadron arrives at the battle…

10 hours ago, Rat of Vengence said:

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hurt that the GUNBOAT finally arrived? :P

9 hours ago, RogueLeader42 said:

hurt that the GUNBOAT finally arrived? :P

No? I used to love shooting them down playing X-Wing vs Tie Fighter :D

RoV

18 hours ago, lntrn8 said:

Wow ... They were VERY different ships....the Missile Boat had 1... ONE laser cannon which was the secondary weapon....its primary weapon were the concussion missiles, and a lot of them! Once the missiles ran out, the Missile Boat was not an effective striker at all.

i still would love to see the Missile Boat somewhere here, and not rolled into the Gunboat.

Thats what the missile title will be, and what the base ship kinda is.

It's only got a 2 dice primary and the missile title will likely be identical to the cannon title.

"Your upgrade bar gains a Missile and a Torpedo slot. While you have one or more weapon disabled tokens, you may fire torpedo and missile weapons of cost 2 or less".

Which would actually be pretty darn scary as long as you had an EPT.

Take PtL, Unguided Rockets, and Flechette Torpedoes.

Move, Slam to get into range. Take free action to focus(or reload if you already used any weapons). If you reloaded, PtL to focus/target lock as needed. Then fire either Unguided Rockets or Torpedoes. And you still have a torpedo slot to get something you want to fire normally.

I'm not convinced that the 2nd title will be a carbon copy of the first with ordnance. Looking forward to finding out what it does though!

1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:

I'm not convinced that the 2nd title will be a carbon copy of the first with ordnance. Looking forward to finding out what it does though!

Yeah, I dunno if it'll allow the same SLAM-and-shoot behaviour, but I'm convinced it'll be something to let these crazy things hurl all the missiles they can ever ask for. And given that SLAM was a major feature of Missile Boats, it might just do something even cooler.

I note in passing that Concussion Warheads are canonical to the Missile Boat; perhaps it just outright lets you fire them endlessly? You'd have expected them to be in the pack if so, though, and I don't see 'em.

Wait...Does this mean people will continue asking for the dang gunboat to be released?

6 minutes ago, Pewpewpew BOOM said:

Wait...Does this mean people will continue asking for the dang gunboat to be released?

Nope. The Cult of Gunboat finds acceptable the savior to be called by it's formal name.

I have no attachment to the old flight sim games. I didn't really take an interest in computer games when they were out; weirdo that I am, I grew up on SPI and Avalon Hill, as well as Star Fleet Battles; pretty much, games with hex maps, dice and a need for generous table space. So, forgive me if I don't sympathize with your outrage over the chosen nomenclature FFG has applied to the XG-1 Alpha Star Wing; having seen the many, many calls for the Gunboat on these forums, I am aware that XG-1, Alpha and Star Wing are all names also applicable to the craft so long sought by the Cult of Gunboat, so its not like they have committed some horrible violation of the the faith. Not like its the "PG-7 Beta Pointy-thingy-wingy"; take a deep breath and enjoy that fact that a ship that these forums have been screaming for has finally been announced for the game.

X-wing or Incom T-65?

V-wing or or Alpha-3 class 'Nimbus'?

Lambda-class T-4c shuttle?

ASSAULT GUNBOAT!!!!!

1 hour ago, Pewpewpew BOOM said:

Wait...Does this mean people will continue asking for the dang gunboat to be released?

Technically the gunboat has still yet to be released, and so we continue our vigil.

Praise be. Umbasa.

1 hour ago, Odanan said:

Nope. The Cult of Gunboat finds acceptable the savior to be called by it's formal name.

I see a possible split forming in the One True Religion with the FFG Starwing having Dual aspects of GUNBOAT and MISSILE BOAT. Do we accept the duality of the Alpha class or do we demand that the separate nature of these holy vessels be made clear as individuals? Kirhaxz and Vaksai are rolled into one ship and hardly any scummies batted and eye. But Imps, and especially GUNNIES, are not Scum.

Here I was, looking forward to no longer having to listen to "OMG PLS GIV US GUNBOTE" threads/posts.

8 minutes ago, stuffedskullcat said:

Here I was, looking forward to no longer having to listen to "OMG PLS GIV US GUNBOTE" threads/posts.

I can haz BUNGOAT?

1 hour ago, MarekMandalore said:

its the "PG-7 Beta Pointy-thingy-wingy"

I wish!

The Pointy-thingy-wingy has all its best names in its title and we all know what type of ship it is. It's an assault gunboat type of ship.

I'm pretty sure the reason they didn't call the ship an Assault Gunboat by default is that it's default configuration ISN'T the Assault Gunboat. It requires the Assault Configuration title to make it into the real Assault Gunboat.

I won't be surprised if the other title isn't Missile Configuration to make it into the Missile Boat(even though the default is pretty Missile Boat already).

Eh, everyone called the TIE Advanced the TIE Avenger... same thing.

But I do wonder if this is evidence of some kind of weird legal shenanigans. The only other reason I can think of to delay on the Assault Gunboat for.... stupider Imperial designs is because someone on the FFG/LFL side really hates this craft. Otherwise what's the reason TIE Cut'n-paste and TIE edited Advanced were picked before The Most Demanded Fighter In The Game? The TIE Punisher/Interdictor is the hardest to rationalize because it literally does the same thing the TIE Bomber does, but with more slots. What gives?

But if there was some kind of legal restriction, making Totally Games own some part of the Assault Gunboat, original TIE Defender depiction, and TIE Avenger... then there would be some explanation why these fighters weren't depicted in plastic and they had to dredge designs out of Galaxies.

Because it's actually not the "Gunboat." It is a hybrid with the Missile Boat. It has a SLAM engine and comes with a Jamming Beam, both Missile Boat features.

5 hours ago, DirbYh said:

Because it's actually not the "Gunboat." It is a hybrid with the Missile Boat. It has a SLAM engine and comes with a Jamming Beam, both Missile Boat features.

The Gunboat could equip beam weapons. Any. You were only limited to the assortment of them offered to you for the mission. So to speak, there was the Beam weapon slot, and four ships in that game had it (GUN, T/A, T/D and MIS).

I just wonder if @Norsehound is onto something but not for legal reasons. The devs said in a video that they always proposed a list of ships and someone "upstairs" gave green light on some of them.

What if that someone truly hated the "Assault Gunboat", and rejected them several times, but knowing how much wanted it was in the forums, the devs went like:

- Boss, for wave XII we propose the Kimogila, the Phantom II, the Assault Gunboat, or the Alpha-class Starwing.
- I told you guys I don't want that Assault Gunboat. Do that Alpha-class thing instead, whatever that is. Sounds like another imperial shuttle?
- Yes, kinda. Looks a lot like it. Okay, boss! No "Assault Gunboat", then!

Edited by Azrapse

They could have literally renamed them Space Squirrels and I'd have been just as excited to get them on a table. Your headcannon doesn't really matter. The name on the ship is literally it's least important aspect.

12 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

I'm not convinced that the 2nd title will be a carbon copy of the first with ordnance. Looking forward to finding out what it does though!

I'd throw a guess at it allowing you a free reload action, or an automatic reload action, freeing your mod slot from Advanced SLAM to allow for LRS/Chips. Outside chance it's something like "You may equip up to 2 Modification upgrades that cost 2 points or less", which would mimic the style of the XG1 card, but allow you to pick up both LRS and Chips, or Advanced SLAM and LRS, etc, making it read similar but work very, very differently.

It's a nickname that just happens to be more popular than the actual title, like Blockade Runner & Corellian Corvette are for the CR90.

'Assault Gunboat' will be the name of the auto include title they are bringing in the XG-1 fix that will come Q3 2019.

1 hour ago, Azrapse said:

The Gunboat could equip beam weapons. Any. You were only limited to the assortment of them offered to you for the mission. So to speak, there was the Beam weapon slot, and four ships in that game had it (GUN, T/A, T/D and MIS).

This card still needs to exist more than ever now.

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6 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

This card still needs to exist more than ever now.

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A beam attack as an action could be nuts. At least, shouldn't it say "You cannot attack again this round." at the end? Otherwise you are giving double taps to everyone, and Ruthlessness becomes autoinclude.
This modification would be crazy on low PS ship, able to land tractor and jam tokens on aces that have not had the chance to activate and get any tokens for defense...

10 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

I see a possible split forming in the One True Religion with the FFG Starwing having Dual aspects of GUNBOAT and MISSILE BOAT. Do we accept the duality of the Alpha class or do we demand that the separate nature of these holy vessels be made clear as individuals? Kirhaxz and Vaksai are rolled into one ship and hardly any scummies batted and eye. But Imps, and especially GUNNIES, are not Scum.

The Savior has many faces. We humbly accept his long waited coming as it is.