After 20'Years...Not Called "Assault Gunboat"

By lntrn8, in X-Wing

Did i miss it? "Star Wing", "Alpha Class Star Wing", "XG-1 Configuration".... Yes I was one of those die hards from the 90s ..... er, 1990s, who played Tie Fighter on PC and flew the "Assault Gunboat" so many times when I drove my car I tried balancing out my Engines, Shields, Lasers, & Ions.

now that ffg made this awesome ship, I missed the print of them calling it what I

... What WE Have been calling it for years, "The Assault Gunboat".

yes, it's a big deal.

We're still calling it the gunboat?

The named it what it actually is.... You are mad they did not make it its nickname? (Nickname for lack of better term)

I don't feel sad for you.

Edited by Icelom

Image result for its not a big deal star wars

16 minutes ago, Icelom said:

The named it what it actually is.... You are mad they did not make it its nickname? (Nickname for lack of better term)

I don't feel sad for you.

I don't want anyone's pity ... Edited response huh? Tell me what you really think.

Assault Gunboat:

"Also known as the Star Wing, the Assault Gunboat is a general-purpose Imperial fighter craft capable of disabling or destroying a wide variety of different ship types with its diverse arsenal while also withstanding heavy fire with its generous shields and reinforced hull. The Star Wing's biggest limitation is its maneuverability, as it is neither particularly fast nor quick to change course, especially when compared to other Imperial vessels of its type."

I'm okay with it being called the Star Wing, and leaving assault gunboatyness for elsewhere in the nomenclature.

3 minutes ago, lntrn8 said:

I don't want anyone's pity ... Edited response huh? Tell me what you really think.

I edited an auto correct of a word to the correct word.

I really think I am in alot of pain so should probably not be posting ad I tend to get very mean when I am like this.

Edit: I also think it's a stupid Silly ship....

Edited by Icelom

"Imperials will never have the ' Assault Gunboat.' Muahahahahahaha!" [Twirling mustache]

-FFG Devs

2 minutes ago, Icelom said:

I edited an auto correct of a word to the correct word.

I really think I am in alot of pain so should probably not be posting ad I tend to get very mean when I am like this.

Edit: I also think it's a stupid Silly ship....

So how many will you buy?

They actually called it the correct name. "Assault Gunboat" was the moniker it was given, similar to how the A-10 is officially named the Thunderbolt II , but everyone calls it the Warthog.

7 minutes ago, Salted Diamond said:

They actually called it the correct name. "Assault Gunboat" was the moniker it was given, similar to how the A-10 is officially named the Thunderbolt II , but everyone calls it the Warthog.

I know ... Like the YT-1300, but it has a title card "Millennium Falcon". The YT-2400 has a title card "The Outrider", etc.. I was hoping for a title card or some reference referring to "Assault Gunboat"

6 minutes ago, lntrn8 said:

I know ... Like the YT-1300, but it has a title card "Millennium Falcon". The YT-2400 has a title card "The Outrider", etc.. I was hoping for a title card or some reference referring to "Assault Gunboat"

Like perhaps the Assault Configuration title?

12 minutes ago, ArchHeretek said:

Like perhaps the Assault Configuration title?

No cigar ... Call a spade a spade and a Gunboat a Gunboat.

Yes, in the X-Wing series it was usually called the "Assault Gunboat," but look in your Farlander Papers or Steele Chronicles. There are a few ships where Totally Games/LucasArts really should have reversed the nicknames and the designations for clarity. For instance, the TIE Advanced x5 was "nicknamed" the TIE Avenger, and "officially known as" the TIE Advanced... which is silly, since "TIE Advanced" is established as a line of experimental TIEs. "Assault Gunboat" is too generic a name, so they went with XG-1 Alpha-class Star Wing.

Seems the gunboat and missileboat may be being combined into one craft. Which is not a bad idea. The two seperate craft are very similar and the combination lets us get the best of both ships.

16 minutes ago, Knightcrawler said:

Yes, in the X-Wing series it was usually called the "Assault Gunboat," but look in your Farlander Papers or Steele Chronicles. There are a few ships where Totally Games/LucasArts really should have reversed the nicknames and the designations for clarity. For instance, the TIE Advanced x5 was "nicknamed" the TIE Avenger, and "officially known as" the TIE Advanced... which is silly, since "TIE Advanced" is established as a line of experimental TIEs. "Assault Gunboat" is too generic a name, so they went with XG-1 Alpha-class Star Wing.

I respectfully disagree ... On this forum, EVERYONE knew what ship "Gunboat" & "Assault Gunboat" was referring to. There was no confusion.

thanks for this history, but a Gunboat is a Gunboat, and a Missile Boat is a Missile Boat.

yep...i agree... LOTS of TIE designations and variations, but we all knew or got informed on what a TIE Advanced and TIE Avenger was and was not.

15 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Seems the gunboat and missileboat may be being combined into one craft. Which is not a bad idea. The two seperate craft are very similar and the combination lets us get the best of both ships.

Wow ... They were VERY different ships....the Missile Boat had 1... ONE laser cannon which was the secondary weapon....its primary weapon were the concussion missiles, and a lot of them! Once the missiles ran out, the Missile Boat was not an effective striker at all.

i still would love to see the Missile Boat somewhere here, and not rolled into the Gunboat.

1 hour ago, lntrn8 said:

So how many will you buy?

Probably 4 (or 5 if you can run 5) because I am a weak willed individual who loves running multiple of the same ship.

Edited by Icelom
2 hours ago, lntrn8 said:

I respectfully disagree ... On this forum, EVERYONE knew what ship "Gunboat" & "Assault Gunboat" was referring to. There was no confusion.

thanks for this history, but a Gunboat is a Gunboat, and a Missile Boat is a Missile Boat.

yep...i agree... LOTS of TIE designations and variations, but we all knew or got informed on what a TIE Advanced and TIE Avenger was and was not.

FFG almost certainly did not choose the name, that would have been LFL (as part of Disney). LFL has clearly decreed that it is the Star Wing, and not the Gunboat. Be salty at them, not the devs, when such oddities come up.

2 hours ago, lntrn8 said:

Wow ... They were VERY different ships....the Missile Boat had 1... ONE laser cannon which was the secondary weapon....its primary weapon were the concussion missiles, and a lot of them! Once the missiles ran out, the Missile Boat was not an effective striker at all.

i still would love to see the Missile Boat somewhere here, and not rolled into the Gunboat.

You'll note this ship has a piddly 2 attack (And has explicitly been noted that they're not doing a 1 attack vessel ever again, so that's as low as it gets here), packs a whopping upgrade bar, and includes a Reload action to let you, y'know, reload. We don't even know what the second title is yet, and it's already able to load concussion missiles and treat them as a primary. Gunboats didn't have SLAM, but they've handed it to this hybrid vessel regardless.

In overall shape and purpose (chunky, white blocky foreward-firepower super-doom-cannon craft), they're pretty similar, even if the details differed. Heck, notice that they turned the Kithraxz into the Vaksai? That change is just as big, but they did it anyway. I imagine this is how it's going to be, and I'm sorry for you if it's not enough.

I personally sympathize with the designers. I mean, would the Imperials really have wanted a fourth missile-packing attack ship? They have enough problems running the things as it is...

4 hours ago, lntrn8 said:

Did i miss it? "Star Wing", "Alpha Class Star Wing", "XG-1 Configuration".... Yes I was one of those die hards from the 90s ..... er, 1990s, who played Tie Fighter on PC and flew the "Assault Gunboat" so many times when I drove my car I tried balancing out my Engines, Shields, Lasers, & Ions.

now that ffg made this awesome ship, I missed the print of them calling it what I

... What WE Have been calling it for years, "The Assault Gunboat".

yes, it's a big deal.

No it's really not.

Global warming. Nuclear saber rattling by incompetent and malicious leaders, those are big deals.

This, this doesn't even register.

I really can't feel for you. Not just about this specific ship, but the larger merging of nucanon and EU. I think the old canon had some horrendous sections, and some aged ideas. To revitalize them in fresher sources is key in reaching a wider audience. If a franchise sticks to its origins too much, simply because the technological advancements, it cannot be kept up. The design of the gunboat and missile boat were limited by the technology of the time, and the resources available. That, and factoring in what Reiver said, necessitates a change in design, name, and general idea, in order to fit in with a revamped canon.

My favourite ship is the Punisher. I don't care if it is called Punisher or Interdictor. Similarly, Kylo's TIE is a good enough Avenger for me. You can always repaint and modify your ships to create the versions you want. All my ships are painted and marked in different ways to make them unique. I've made a reverted wings bomber without chutes, painted white, to represent a shuttle. If you want a separate missile boat, get some green stuff and get to it. This is a miniatures game, folks, don't forget where the hobby has come from, even though it arrives pre-painted and assembled.

So, call them what you want, modify them if you'd like, and accept that Star Wars has to change in order to survive... It's time for the Jedi to end.

5 hours ago, lntrn8 said:

Wow ... They were VERY different ships....the Missile Boat had 1... ONE laser cannon which was the secondary weapon....its primary weapon were the concussion missiles, and a lot of them! Once the missiles ran out, the Missile Boat was not an effective striker at all.

i still would love to see the Missile Boat somewhere here, and not rolled into the Gunboat.

Two Dice Primary`? So what is your beef here. The Assault configuration is getting two cannon slots and hopefully the option to beef up the low primary value via the cannons with the Linked Batteries. There might be a missile variant without canons hidden in the second title, because the canon slots only come FROM the assault title. . ;-)

It's not a big deal.

Getting the ship in the game is a big deal.

"Assault Gunboat"? I thought it was called the "GUNBOAT GUNBOAT GUNBOAT"?

39 minutes ago, haslo said:

"Assault Gunboat"? I thought it was called the "GUNBOAT GUNBOAT GUNBOAT"?

That will, of course, be the list archetype for flying triple starwings with cannons equipped. ?