45 minutes ago, Norell said:God please no! Mostly because they would definitely wrap in some awesome upgrade cards so I shall have them. Then the mod3ls would go into the cupboard as I would never play them on principle...
What is wrong with the First Order and Resistance?
7 hours ago, Mundo said:Last Jedi content coming to Armada. Hence the delay until September. Maybe even with a new core set with different minis for First Order and Resistance.
Pure speculation, but I could get behind that.
Me too. I'd love a Resurgent Class Star Destroyer, and I hope the Resistance has an awesome ship to counter it. I'm aware from YouTube rumours that there is meant to be a capital/command ship.
However, it depends on what action there is in TLJ. Trailer suggests a fleet engagement, but I still suspect that Episode IX will be the "not Endor big fleet battle". There's still ships from Rogue One and some Rebels contributions to include. I'm also among those hoping for model space stations.
Either way, I'll be happy.
50 minutes ago, Norell said:God please no! Mostly because they would definitely wrap in some awesome upgrade cards so I shall have them. Then the mod3ls would go into the cupboard as I would never play them on principle...
You could just sell them on eBay, make a little back. . . for those who play casually, they could just proxy the cards.
3 hours ago, CDAT said:What is wrong with the First Order and Resistance?
Basically everything. The whole bew trilogy us a total ripoff of the original one with forced minor roles from the original characters. And they completely negste the EU which is a much more mature, complex, in my opinion in every way better.
Not to menntion that other than the action scenes TFA is simply ridiculous. Just listen to the conversations! They are all like taken fron a 6 years old's work or from a soap opera. Or take the lack of charactel detali, motivation, or anything even remotely original...
Enough ranting. Disneyverse is not Star Wars IMO and if possible I don't want to do anything with it (and yes I saw R1, Rebels and TFA as well).
1 hour ago, Norell said:Not to menntion that other than the action scenes TFA is simply ridiculous. Just listen to the conversations! They are all like taken fron a 6 years old's work or from a soap opera.
Not saying you're 100% wrong, but I suggest re-watching the original trilogy. It has just as many hokey lines in it. I recently watched the entire library of Star Wars films with an uninitiated and cringed at points during all the movies. Prequels were the worst.
6 hours ago, Tommy Blunderbuss said:I'm aware from YouTube rumours that there is meant to be a capital/command ship.
Can you link me, please?
3 hours ago, Norell said:Basically everything. The whole bew trilogy us a total ripoff of the original one with forced minor roles from the original characters. And they completely negste the EU which is a much more mature, complex, in my opinion in every way better.
Not to menntion that other than the action scenes TFA is simply ridiculous. Just listen to the conversations! They are all like taken fron a 6 years old's work or from a soap opera. Or take the lack of charactel detali, motivation, or anything even remotely original...
Enough ranting. Disneyverse is not Star Wars IMO and if possible I don't want to do anything with it (and yes I saw R1, Rebels and TFA as well).
Unpopular opinion time
The old EU after RotJ was 90% unreadable garbage.
Zahn chiseled out a fine line of quality stories, Stackpole did an awesome job too, everything else was basically a heaping pile of cringeworthy fanservice...
-Jedi academy trilogy was sheer garbage, literally painful to read
-Children of the Jedi and darksaber were bad
-The black fleet crisis had potential then went to crap by the end of the 2nd book... 3rd was almost unreadable...
-The corellian trilogy never did anything for me...
From there on out there were a few sub-par Zahn books and then a bunch of Young Jedi comics leading up to the "New Jedi order" era which I can honestly say there wasn't a book written after that point I wasn't happy Disney firebombed....
The old EU was a crowded mess filled with characters I'm glad to see go.... If scrubbing the scum of Darth Krayt and the One Sith or Jacen and Jaina Solo means losing some of the few better characters of the EU, I'm glad they did it.
Also, TFA was pretty good. It's not complex, rode the nostalgia train pretty hard, but was well written and watchable. Definitely feels like it's setting up for something good. Last Jedi teasers have me on the edge of my seat. Straight up.
20 hours ago, Tommy Blunderbuss said:From my limited experience on the forums, I have to say I've found the Armada fans to be the most civilised.
I think that FFG knew they didn't have to appease this community out of fear for their lives. Whereas other communities have their unpleasant minority who would light their torches and sharpen their pitchforks; this community has actually responded very positively, getting down to the fun of theorising and wish listing.
Armada fans are a credit to Star Wars fandom and I can't wait to get into this game.
I'm sure whatever the "something" is it'll be awesome.
But of course, the Commanders and Admirals have to show some class. We call them Ace-Holes and Stuupers for a reason.
2 hours ago, ianediger said:Can you link me, please?
I'll do what I can, it was before we knew the title of The Last Jedi. Quick look on YouTube just has Last Jedi rumours. So I might have to dig s bit.
2 hours ago, ianediger said:Can you link me, please?
We don't really need YouTube rumours, we can just look at the trailers; there are shots of what looks like a Resistance command centre (similar to the bridge on the Home One), with stars out the windows. Shots of Poe running down corridors as they blow up, and shots of a Resistance hangar bay opening to space. It could be that the command centre is on a space station, the corridors are on a small ship and the hangar is on a station... but I'm not sure how much sense that makes narratively - more likely is that there's a Resistance capital ship.
Spot on there. I was also happy to see the EU go into "Legends" and not canon.
I am a VERY new player to SW:A, so I was really hoping to see something new.
But then again, right now, EVERYTHING Armada is new to me!
4 hours ago, Darth Sanguis said:Unpopular opinion time
The old EU after RotJ was 90% unreadable garbage.
Zahn chiseled out a fine line of quality stories, Stackpole did an awesome job too, everything else was basically a heaping pile of cringeworthy fanservice...
-Jedi academy trilogy was sheer garbage, literally painful to read
-Children of the Jedi and darksaber were bad
-The black fleet crisis had potential then went to crap by the end of the 2nd book... 3rd was almost unreadable...
-The corellian trilogy never did anything for me...
From there on out there were a few sub-par Zahn books and then a bunch of Young Jedi comics leading up to the "New Jedi order" era which I can honestly say there wasn't a book written after that point I wasn't happy Disney firebombed....
The old EU was a crowded mess filled with characters I'm glad to see go.... If scrubbing the scum of Darth Krayt and the One Sith or Jacen and Jaina Solo means losing some of the few better characters of the EU, I'm glad they did it.
Also, TFA was pretty good. It's not complex, rode the nostalgia train pretty hard, but was well written and watchable. Definitely feels like it's setting up for something good. Last Jedi teasers have me on the edge of my seat. Straight up.
I'm not sure how unpopular your opinion is, but the content hated/loved varies. For myself, for example, after Rotj, I liked the Thrawn Books, the X-Wing series, the concept of the Yuuzhan Vong, and most of the Legacy of the Force (though some bits weren't greatly written, and in the end the writing was pretty shoddy, the idea, again, was good).
As for the rest of what I've read, I was glad to see it go, though disappointed somewhat, because the richness of the universe was lost. So bad writing? Great, get rid of it! All that history that made Star Was what it was? Bring it back, just write it better! I'm glad the Chiss were re-canonized also, they were pretty epic.
Though I think the same goes for the new stuff as well. From what I hear, most of it sucks too.
11 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I'm not sure how unpopular your opinion is, but the content hated/loved varies. For myself, for example, after Rotj, I liked the Thrawn Books, the X-Wing series, the concept of the Yuuzhan Vong, and most of the Legacy of the Force (though some bits weren't greatly written, and in the end the writing was pretty shoddy, the idea, again, was good).
As for the rest of what I've read, I was glad to see it go, though disappointed somewhat, because the richness of the universe was lost. So bad writing? Great, get rid of it! All that history that made Star Was what it was? Bring it back, just write it better! I'm glad the Chiss were re-canonized also, they were pretty epic.
Though I think the same goes for the new stuff as well. From what I hear, most of it sucks too.
UNPOPULAR OPINION TIME 2.0
The new Thrawn book is nowhere near as good as the short story it was drafted from....
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I too liked the idea of the Vong, but through bad writing and melodramatic story telling, I rapidly lost interest. Zahn and Stackpole could have written the entire EU and even they couldn't make some of the characters interesting... Jacen and Jaina are my least favorite Legends characters... and consequently, the only thing I really don't like about TFA are the similarities between Jacen and Kylo....
I swear on me mum, if Rey is a solo... I'mma snap, right there in the theatre.
1 minute ago, Darth Sanguis said:UNPOPULAR OPINION TIME 2.0
The new Thrawn book is nowhere near as good as the short story it was drafted from....
/END
I too liked the idea of the Vong, but through bad writing and melodramatic story telling, I rapidly lost interest. Zahn and Stackpole could have written the entire EU and even they couldn't make some of the character's interesting... Jacen and Jaina are my least favorite Legends characters... and consequently, the only thing I really don't like about TFA are the similarities between Jacen and Kylo....
I swear on me mum, if Rey is a solo... I'mma snap, right there in the theatre.
I think the Thrawn book was good (don't know about the short story), and could combine nicely with the original Thrawn Trilogy. And yeah, Jaina and Jacen weren't great, but all the Mando bits were awesome, and the general plot (ignoring characterizations) was nice.
Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:(don't know about the short story
Zahn wrote a prequel novel, "Outbound Flight" which was actually pretty good. The Emperor had come into contact with Thrawn in that book, long before the events of "thrawn". If you haven't read it, I'd heavily advise it, as it ties in with much of the post-RotJ EU... but... at the end of the book, there was a short story of Thrawn's first contact with the Empire.... which was rewritten to open the book "Thrawn". The old short story was written 100x better and had much more detail...
Time for my unpopular opinion: I liked the Vong. True, the whole arc was unnecessarily long, but Ibliked the dark theme, the totally alien species, the fact that they at first handed over the Jedi their buttocks and later only became equals in fight. I LOVED that nobody was safe! They killed several main characters and many beloved supporting roles. I loved the tension.
And it had Pallaeon! The only Imperial I may love even more than Thrawn.
All in all I liked zhr EU very much. It was coherent, deep, oftrn cleverly written.
I could have accepted TFA to rewrite the EU. But it did not. It brought nothing original whatsoever only a bunch of very dull, very general, uninteresting characters who have nothing to add to the story. The worts part is that they are total ripoff of the original characters and they have to play alongside them to make it even more obvious.
And the worst one was Kylo Ren. Who should have been an epic villain turned out to be a babyfaced, whinig Vader-wannabe who can't be taken seriously for a second. I was literally laughing out loud how pathetically he was portrayed. Bad role, bad lines, bad directing and sorry to say it, but a very bad actor for the role.
20 hours ago, Norell said:And they completely negste the EU which is a much more mature, complex, in my opinion in every way better.
I agree! Nothing says mature and complex like:
There was a time I could have put "robo-half-Maul" on that list, but LFL and then Disney saw proper to make that canon for some reason...
5 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:
I agree! Nothing says mature and complex like:
- Zombie Stormtroopers
- Multiple Clones of Emperor Palpatine
- Soontir Fel and Wedge finding ways to get into fist-fights during dogfights, all before they become brother-in-laws and Fel's descendants become the new Emperor line of the Empire
- An assassin droid having taken over (entirely unbeknownst to the Empire and the Sith Lords aboard) the Second Death Star
- A literally invulnerable spaceship the size of an RV that destroys enemy capital ships by just crashing through them
- The fact that for 30 years, the only things of note ever done in the galaxy are done by the same three eldery humans
- Boba Fett has a lightsaber duel with Vader and sorta wins
- Ugh, Boba Fettishim in general (like, if the Mandalorians are so bad-assed, why do they let some mercenary sellsword who gets chumped into a desert worm become their Mandalore?)
- World Devastators... hello superweapon so improbable and goofy it makes Starkiller Base seem like an invention of Da Vinci
- Revolving door of SURPRISE SITH-LORDs!
- etc
There was a time I could have put "robo-half-Maul" on that list, but LFL and then Disney saw proper to make that canon for some reason...
super nova bombs
2 hours ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:
I agree! Nothing says mature and complex like:
- Zombie Stormtroopers
- Multiple Clones of Emperor Palpatine
- Soontir Fel and Wedge finding ways to get into fist-fights during dogfights, all before they become brother-in-laws and Fel's descendants become the new Emperor line of the Empire
- An assassin droid having taken over (entirely unbeknownst to the Empire and the Sith Lords aboard) the Second Death Star
- A literally invulnerable spaceship the size of an RV that destroys enemy capital ships by just crashing through them
- The fact that for 30 years, the only things of note ever done in the galaxy are done by the same three eldery humans
- Boba Fett has a lightsaber duel with Vader and sorta wins
- Ugh, Boba Fettishim in general (like, if the Mandalorians are so bad-assed, why do they let some mercenary sellsword who gets chumped into a desert worm become their Mandalore?)
- World Devastators... hello superweapon so improbable and goofy it makes Starkiller Base seem like an invention of Da Vinci
- Revolving door of SURPRISE SITH-LORDs!
- etc
There was a time I could have put "robo-half-Maul" on that list, but LFL and then Disney saw proper to make that canon for some reason...
Hey, don't dis Boba! 
In everything but Boba, I agree with you.
2 hours ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:
I agree! Nothing says mature and complex like:
- Zombie Stormtroopers
- Multiple Clones of Emperor Palpatine
- Soontir Fel and Wedge finding ways to get into fist-fights during dogfights, all before they become brother-in-laws and Fel's descendants become the new Emperor line of the Empire
- An assassin droid having taken over (entirely unbeknownst to the Empire and the Sith Lords aboard) the Second Death Star
- A literally invulnerable spaceship the size of an RV that destroys enemy capital ships by just crashing through them
- The fact that for 30 years, the only things of note ever done in the galaxy are done by the same three eldery humans
- Boba Fett has a lightsaber duel with Vader and sorta wins
- Ugh, Boba Fettishim in general (like, if the Mandalorians are so bad-assed, why do they let some mercenary sellsword who gets chumped into a desert worm become their Mandalore?)
- World Devastators... hello superweapon so improbable and goofy it makes Starkiller Base seem like an invention of Da Vinci
- Revolving door of SURPRISE SITH-LORDs!
- etc
There was a time I could have put "robo-half-Maul" on that list, but LFL and then Disney saw proper to make that canon for some reason...
True, EU was overloading on superweapons before Disney took on that path
Because Disney did not surpassed any of those in ridiculousness with the Starkiller base....