If FFG had said right you lot, which do you want, a 27mm(or whatever Legion is) and a 10mm/6mm game for bigger epic battles, which would you have voted for?

Excited about Legion but very concerned about what it means for IA and also would have loved a mass SW battle game with ATATs etc along the lines of GW Epic scale (6mm).

I'd have vote for 10mm all day long

so much so i'll vote twice for 10mm

Who knows? If the game sells as well as their other games, probably we'll see a 10mm one some time in the future...

For the moment, I'll enjoy the fact that I can interchange my IA minis with the Legion ones.

Just now, cogollo said:

Who knows? If the game sells as well as their other games, probably we'll see a 10mm one some time in the future...

For the moment, I'll enjoy the fact that I can interchange my IA minis with the Legion ones.

Wont they have some Card system where you need to buy the new Miniature packs which will include the cards to play Legion?

Probably the 32mm one. I'd be too concerned about the lack of major ground battles in SW to give enough material to pull of an epic scale system. Thy basically didn't happen in the lore (with some very rare exceptions), so it would be pretty contrived.

That said.....still totally would have bought it!

6 minutes ago, Extropia said:

Probably the 32mm one. I'd be too concerned about the lack of major ground battles in SW to give enough material to pull of an epic scale system. Thy basically didn't happen in the lore (with some very rare exceptions), so it would be pretty contrived.

That said.....still totally would have bought it!

This.

Also, a 10mm game would ievitably have stands of multiple models instead of individual miniatures, and an FFG game with stands of multiple models would inevitably have some sort of clunky pre-planned order dial mechanic and a billion X-Wingesque manouver tools, which would immedietaly kill any interest I would have in the game.

A 10mm game would definitely be cool and I would buy it, but I think that I actually prefer the 32mm one. It seems to me that it gives you a greater variety of figures that can be used that would otherwise be hard to distinguish in 10mm.

6mm... it would be the same scale as X-Wing. Possible crossover would be awesome!

15mm, if you want recognizable heroes. Also lots of choice for terrain.

27mm given those options. In my mind, 10mm you gain AT-ATs... ok, one cool unit... and you lose any sense of detail or importance of individual miniatures. I like every mini to really count. Also painting larger minis is more fun.

for me, 32 - 34 would be perfect

Compatible with x-wing models.

I probably would have voted for a 6-15mm game. But I realize that such a game wouldn't have the same market appeal as one with a larger scale.

2 years from now I would expect the 10-15mm version.

I can have both?

27mm given those options, though i don't know that i've ever seen a 27mm miniature. the 32-35 they have is fine.

An epic scale game at 10-15mm would have been awesome. Huge armies clashing with vehicle and air support. Just imagine. Heroes could have still been in there and might even been more powerful as you would have seen their effect on a whole battle and not just Vader cutting down a few Rebel soldiers. The market for squad level skirmish games is saturated already. Sure the IP will pull its weight but it would have been so much more interesting for FFG to explore new terrain! (like they did with Armada)

10 or 15mm. That way we can have 6+ ATAT on the map and not have the entire map (and our wallets) consumed by 3' models.

It's slimey making Legions 34mm and no allowance or kit for IA usage. Purely customer gauging on their part. And yes, Im aware of IAs situation with Hasbro. Slimey!!

On ‎08‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 5:36 AM, Extropia said:

Probably the 32mm one. I'd be too concerned about the lack of major ground battles in SW to give enough material to pull of an epic scale system. Thy basically didn't happen in the lore (with some very rare exceptions), so it would be pretty contrived.

That said.....still totally would have bought it!

I'd be concerned about the lack of ground skirmishes in SW to give enough material to pull off a squad based system.

You see, when you really look at the SW universe of movies, you don't have ground combat. Ep4 had basically nothing. The only ground combat was more of a IA mission. Ep5 had a pretty epic scale conflict on Hoth. Ep6 had more of a squad based scale conflict. So 1v1. If you look at Ep7 you get 1 squad based conflict. Ep 1 had an epic scale conflict. Ep 2 had an epic scale conflict. Ep3 had some glimpses of epic scale conflict. In the entire run of movies you have 2 squad based conflicts, and 4 more epic scale conflicts. Seems the movies are weighted in favor of epic conflict over squad based.

Comics and movies are somewhat split. The clone wars cartoon was split. Rebels has been more squad based. At best, you're looking at an even split across all media with a possible slight advantage in the epic scale's favor.

So now that we got that out of the way. The next argument I hear is lack of content for the rebels. However, we never see the 1 vehicle the alliance has in this game in any of the OT movies. And the game is going to have to invent all kinds of different infantry units to keep things interesting for both sides...so coming up with couple tanks, or pulling stuff from other eras or other media doesn't seem that hard.

As for the movement argument and being upset about guides and dials and what not. I've already seen complaints about how the speeders work, and you have a couple guides already to handle movement. Not sure why it would have to be any different.

I'd much prefer something around the 10mm scale. I want to create epic battles between sides. I want large scale conflicts. I hope that this is the X-wing to a future Armada game....but I kind of doubt it.

I would like to see a smaller scale game from FFG, but I don't think that this era is right for it.

On 8/22/2017 at 7:50 AM, kmanweiss said:

Ep 1 had an epic scale conflict. Ep 2 had an epic scale conflict. Ep3 had some glimpses of epic scale conflict.

As you said, there are more epic scale battles in the prequels, that is the era in which a 6-15mm game would fit

32mm, and here’s my reasons:

- I, people I know, and our LGS all have lots of suitable terrain already.

- Imo the models look better

- Small scale ground games are quite simply less popular. Less popular means less players, which means less profit for FFG, which means less support.

- This era doesn’t fir epic scale battles. If they had picked the Clone Wars maybe it’d be different, but they didn’t.

- Similar to an earlier point...32mm will be faaaar easy to attract. Ew players with than 10mm. It looks visually immediately striking, and has all the iconic characters clearly visible.

8 minutes ago, Extropia said:

32mm, and here’s my reasons:

- I, people I know, and our LGS all have lots of suitable terrain already.

- Imo the models look better

- Small scale ground games are quite simply less popular. Less popular means less players, which means less profit for FFG, which means less support.

- This era doesn’t fir epic scale battles. If they had picked the Clone Wars maybe it’d be different, but they didn’t.

- Similar to an earlier point...32mm will be faaaar easy to attract. Ew players with than 10mm. It looks visually immediately striking, and has all the iconic characters clearly visible.

Exactly these reasons. Plus I couldn’t paint 10mm minis. No patience

SWX minis are about 6mm we have a house league version already.

Epic 40k squads (SM imps and IG rebels)

Various micro machines

AT AT from hoth model kits

Etc...

With how many people seem to want a Flames of War style game, I think it'd be a separate game with ground vehicles and units but I think it'd be more like xwing than legion. Could have at-at' at-st's and the walkers from Rebels. Mabe Star Wars Ground Wars could be the name or something where it'd be smaller scale to have all kinds of units.

I would still pick the legion scale game. I have tried to do flames of war and other small scale games and they are just missing something. There is something about running your individual squads around a board, pushing them behind cover and the intimidation that a single vehicle brings...