If you're knocked out with only one item, do you lose it?

By Avi_dreader, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

If you're knocked out with only one item, do you lose it?

Because of the lose half your items rounded down ruling. Does anyone know for sure? I assume the answer is no, but I hate that idea that you can run around with one item impervious to a loss of it :'/

lol, well if running around with one item and 1 sanity or stamina is your idea of a good time, I guess that's perfectly legitamate. I wouldn't reccoment it though.

I can't figure out anything in the rule books that makes it illegal

the only time it comes up in my games is when a fighter with a good weapon just keeps going to town on monsters till he resets at the hospital or asylum, rinse, repeat

it feels wrong, but you lose half your clue tokens (0/2), your retainers (don't have one) and half your items rounded down (1/2 = .5, rounds down to zero items lost), so there's nothing actually wrong with it then right?

also since you won't have encounters as long as you fight in the streets you don't have to worry about random loss and it's nearly impossible to be devoured from monster combat short of things like The Black Man.

granted all you can do is fight monsters and fingerpaint... or take up space in the ICU, but someone on the team's gotta be on monster duty so it's not a tactical black hole either

"Take it!"

"I don't want it!"

"It doesn't make sense that you would leave it behind!"

"Round DOWN! Half of one rounds down to ZERO!"

"Why are you making the game easy on me???"

"Aren't you supposed to be unconscious???"

jgt7771 said:

Half of one rounds down to ZERO!"

That was my impression too

you could house rule it so that it's half your items round down, minimum 1 item if you have at least one

but you would have to house rule it to work around it

jgt7771 said:

"Take it!"

"I don't want it!"

"It doesn't make sense that you would leave it behind!"

"Round DOWN! Half of one rounds down to ZERO!"

"Why are you making the game easy on me???"

"Aren't you supposed to be unconscious???"

;'D

magnumopera said:

you could house rule it so that it's half your items round down, minimum 1 item if you have at least one

but you would have to house rule it to work around it

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yeah, that's what I'm talking about!

arkham hardcore, no items, no spells.

and the only way to win is to fist fight the GOO! (pray you draw Sonny Liston constantly)

magnumopera said:

yeah, that's what I'm talking about!

arkham hardcore, no items, no spells.

and the only way to win is to fist fight the GOO! (pray you draw Sonny Liston constantly)

Way hardcore to the max: No board, no characters. Just monsters, dancing around in a circle with hats on.

no monsters

you fight the hats!

magnumopera said:

no monsters

you fight the hats!

That is souper-hella-megasaurus hardcore right there.

magnumopera said:

no monsters

you fight the hats!

No hats!

You fight!

magnumopera said:

yeah, that's what I'm talking about!

arkham hardcore, no items, no spells.

and the only way to win is to fist fight the GOO! (pray you draw Sonny Liston constantly)

::Blink blink:: actually, that would make an interesting scenario... No common or unique items being available.

You always rule NOT in favour of the Investigators. So yes, you would lose it.

Magic Pink said:

You always rule NOT in favour of the Investigators. So yes, you would lose it.

I don't think that's an, official rule ;') I wish it were, and sometimes it almost feels like it is, but it's not.

Avi_dreader said:

::Blink blink:: actually, that would make an interesting scenario... No common or unique items being available.

haha what if that's the last scenario in the next league?

magnumopera said:

Avi_dreader said:

::Blink blink:: actually, that would make an interesting scenario... No common or unique items being available.

haha what if that's the last scenario in the next league?

Available characters: Michael McGlen, Mark Harrigan, Zoey Samaras, Tony Morgan gran_risa.gif .

Dam said:

magnumopera said:

Avi_dreader said:

::Blink blink:: actually, that would make an interesting scenario... No common or unique items being available.

haha what if that's the last scenario in the next league?

Available characters: Michael McGlen, Mark Harrigan, Zoey Samaras, Tony Morgan gran_risa.gif .

Hrm... The more I think about this, the better an idea I think it is... :') Really!

lol I seriously thought that said Tracy Morgan

Magic Pink said:

You always rule NOT in favour of the Investigators. So yes, you would lose it.

No.

Some people on this board say this mantra but it's frankly absurd. It's especially absurd to use it in this case because it's a mantra used to settle disputes or situations you can't figure out the correct legal resolution. Neither of which apply in this case as - as has already been pointed out - you lose half your items rounded down, and half of 1 rounded down is 0. It's quite simple. There's no clarification needed here, no dispute, just a simple calculation.

Avi, I don't really get your aspiration for changing or putting on doubt some game rules. After all that's only a game. Relax and have fun. I see it like follows: You can't loose 1 item just because you always HAVE it. Tommy Gun with a strap around your torso, Sword of Glory is just somehow magically "sticky" to you, 1 pistol that was holstered.... A spell that was in inner pocket of the coat.

Just take it creatively, not straight-forward like "they can't loose 0 items cause it's not a lost, and if they MUST loose item, they LOOSE it cause it's realistic".

If you see it fits YOUR game, you can always just USE it. Noone can restrict you.

Lesseps said:

Avi, I don't really get your aspiration for changing or putting on doubt some game rules. After all that's only a game. Relax and have fun. I see it like follows: You can't loose 1 item just because you always HAVE it. Tommy Gun with a strap around your torso, Sword of Glory is just somehow magically "sticky" to you, 1 pistol that was holstered.... A spell that was in inner pocket of the coat.

Yeah but if you get the crap kicked out of you and end up unconscious lying naked and bleeding in a pool of monster vomit until someone drags your bloodied, rat chewed, faeces soiled corpse to the hospital where there revive you just in the nick of time... in that case I would say that if you had one thing in your possession last you looked, you probably don't wake up with it...

DoctorDR said:

Lesseps said:

Avi, I don't really get your aspiration for changing or putting on doubt some game rules. After all that's only a game. Relax and have fun. I see it like follows: You can't loose 1 item just because you always HAVE it. Tommy Gun with a strap around your torso, Sword of Glory is just somehow magically "sticky" to you, 1 pistol that was holstered.... A spell that was in inner pocket of the coat.

Yeah but if you get the crap kicked out of you and end up unconscious lying naked and bleeding in a pool of monster vomit until someone drags your bloodied, rat chewed, faeces soiled corpse to the hospital where there revive you just in the nick of time... in that case I would say that if you had one thing in your possession last you looked, you probably don't wake up with it...

You know the spirit I play in ;'D

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::Laughter:: As for ::wiggles fingers:: casting doubt or changing game rules, I'd be fine either way with this, but I would like a definitive clarification of what happens in this case, currently it sounds like you keep half your one item, which just seems weird to me. I don't think we're going to get this in the FAQ if or when it's ever released :' because I don't think we asked it back then. Ah well.