[MAFIA] The Wheels of Democracy ***GAME OVER***
2 minutes ago, Visovics said:Yes, he checks
@CaribbeanNinja can you confirm his visit?
Maybe I missed something, but did you mention this before? And if not, why not?
And cal, what was the reasoning behind visiting these players?
@Visovics... but what does Cal get out of his visits... he's got to know that his role is there to throw off the watcher so if he's town aligned wouldn't he chose not to visit people...
4 minutes ago, Visovics said:Yes, he checks
@CaribbeanNinja can you confirm his visit?
I would second what Mad just asked. Why didn't you share this? If not with everyone, then me specifically?
Just now, Madaghmire said:Maybe I missed something, but did you mention this before? And if not, why not?
Because I was waiting a claim, he could be a scummy role that leaves traces behind but wasn't told that in the role PM, if his claim didn't include that aspect, I would instantly place my vote. I considered it would be the best option to wait
Just now, Visovics said:Because I was waiting a claim, he could be a scummy role that leaves traces behind but wasn't told that in the role PM, if his claim didn't include that aspect, I would instantly place my vote. I considered it would be the best option to wait
That may explain why you didn't inform everyone. But still doesn't explain why you didn't tell me.
Just now, Rocmistro said:That may explain why you didn't inform everyone. But still doesn't explain why you didn't tell me.
I thought I had, sorry. I received the info at end of N2 (or is it N1? Truth's role confused the whole situation with the days), after that I had almost forgotten for the entirety of D3, but I thought I had told you, seems I didn't
4 minutes ago, Rocmistro said:
I really thought I had 
Ummm. Wow. That's a weird answer from JJ there Toad. A cult is an interesting idea. It jives somewhat with what we're seeing.
As for the rather bananas theory that I'm a cult leader with a filibuster, I really don't have anything more to say. The logic jumps you have to take to link those two are incredible. I'm the Vice Chancellor. I'm town. That's all I have to give. I feel like I'm in the same situation I was with Pod last game, where I've got one fellow townie that just does not want to believe I'm innocent.
That said Roc, good catch with Vis there. I can't buy the reasoning for not telling us he was visited by Cal. That was critical information that could have told us about a scum visit. No, Cal is probably not Scum, but you wouldn't have known that. You made no attempt to pressure Cal from what I've seen to even figure out why . Tying it in with Toad's theory, that could mean you were already visited and didn't want us to know you were visited. By the cult. You've also been pretty scummy throughout the game.
I can't shake the linger doubts about Ninja, though. He's just too sly when he's scum and he's playing pretty tight lipped.
38 minutes ago, TheToad said:
Toad, I get nothing out of it that I can see. Now that I'm thinking about it, it does feel rather Jar Jar, I suppose, as an idiot that gets in the way a lot. The only other thing I can think is it confirms to other people that I don't have any other roles/abilities. I'm a town aligned fruit vendor. God have mercy on my soul.
Interesting development regarding Vis, but the triumvirate has confused me most of the game. Still, they are cleared per The Toad, at least for now, and unless he's the best scum player ever. Unless I am misunderstanding the information you got, @TheToad?
Still would like to hear the other claims. I knew my role was dumb and just by name alone might get me lynched, but I put it out there for town. Still waiting on Broba and Ninja to do the same.
11 minutes ago, Truthiness said:That was critical information that could have told us about a scum visit.
Critical? So I was told I was visited.
1) he could base a fake claim on that
2) Nothing happened, nothing was different. What would it have changed to tell? He'd be pressured to claim, and then read point 1
3)I thought it not important and definitely not critical to be said publicly, could only worsen things in here. By N2 I had the impression I had already told Roc, I did not remember that I had received by the END of N1 and Roc was uninformed, because I talked with him from other news that reached while night was happening and we talked.
4)I already told Roc why I have been acting scummy, we are bodyguards who other players know the targets, we die at night, we could know who's been targeted. Only we could have been the target, so by making myself scummy, I would make myself a target for day pressuring, and so higher chances of my death at night being due my protected target, I was proven wrong that they would keep the ones acting scummy alive
Truth I think you hit on the winning peice of logic there... He was visited by cal, and then hid it because he was now in league with Cal. Fruit Vendor ironically is the perfect fake claim for a Cult leader. Honestly before any of the conversation this morning I was leaning heavier towards Imp Captain being the cult leader, but it appears that logic has shifted.
In regards to Vis and Caldias, and my role I will point them back to my previous post where I detail why I have not yet claimed. If you are town, hold on tight. If you are cult trying to rush me because I declared my ability might be a direct threat to you please keep pushing so I can confirm the suspicion and lynch you.
26 minutes ago, Truthiness said:As for the rather bananas theory that I'm a cult leader with a filibuster, I really don't have anything more to say. The logic jumps you have to take to link those two are incredible. I'm the Vice Chancellor. I'm town. That's all I have to give. I feel like I'm in the same situation I was with Pod last game, where I've got one fellow townie that just does not want to believe I'm innocent.
Can you break this down for me, please, Truthi?
Because every time I bring you up, everyone says "ha, that's crazy, you're silly....because it is". I still haven't had someone walk me through why it's so nuts.
5 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:Truth I think you hit on the winning peice of logic there... He was visited by cal, and then hid it because he was now in league with Cal. Fruit Vendor ironically is the perfect fake claim for a Cult leader. Honestly before any of the conversation this morning I was leaning heavier towards Imp Captain being the cult leader, but it appears that logic has shifted.
In regards to Vis and Caldias, and my role I will point them back to my previous post where I detail why I have not yet claimed. If you are town, hold on tight. If you are cult trying to rush me because I declared my ability might be a direct threat to you please keep pushing so I can confirm the suspicion and lynch you.
That "winning" price of logic is bunk... I know that Vis is not a threat to town as of last night...
Broba... your Supreme Chancellor is demanding that you reveal your Flavor name, Role, and alignment
Just now, TheToad said:That "winning" price of logic is bunk... I know that Vis is not a threat to town as of last night...
Broba... your Supreme Chancellor is demanding that you reveal your Flavor name, Role, and alignment
You met his condition, he will now lynch you
1 minute ago, Visovics said:You met his condition, he will now lynch you
???
1 minute ago, TheToad said:???
11 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:I declared my ability might be a direct threat to you please keep pushing so I can confirm the suspicion and lynch you.
Basically that
Nevermind, read properly, that applies to me and Cal only
He doesn't get off that easy...
I don't like the way any of this smells... right now Broba is my #1 candidate for Cult leader... Truthis has been converted...
@CaribbeanNinja you're presence is demanded in the Senate chamber!
20 minutes ago, TheToad said:That "winning" price of logic is bunk... I know that Vis is not a threat to town as of last night...
Broba... your Supreme Chancellor is demanding that you reveal your Flavor name, Role, and alignment
Oh dur. Sorry. I'm an idiot. That's what I get for being distracted. Sorry Vis!
2 minutes ago, Truthiness said:Oh dur. Sorry. I'm an idiot. That's what I get for being distracted. Sorry Vis!
You're an idiot again? Where's the Megamind memes then??
22 minutes ago, Rocmistro said:Can you break this down for me, please, Truthi?
Because every time I bring you up, everyone says "ha, that's crazy, you're silly....because it is". I still haven't had someone walk me through why it's so nuts.
It's pretty simple: a cult leader has zero reason to want to delay night. None.
Let me start thinking through this. Effort post coming.