1 minute ago, TheToad said:you guys are the only ones I am sure about and we need to play this right because I believe we are in a LYLO situation...
I wish I could just declare supreme rule and liquidate the senate now?
Not complete lylo, if the any cultist is killed at night, the game carries on, but I agree this is something we need to take really carefully. Okay, this may be the final day, is it time for all to come to light with their roles?
Just now, Rocmistro said:Toad, thanks for your trust. Unfortunately I'm afraid I have no idea who the head of the snake may be. I have what I think are pretty good suspicions on who at least are threats, but no idea who the kingpin is. :-( My role gives me nothing in the way of clairvoyance to the threats, nor does Viso's. Near as I can tell it's a crapshoot, with about a 20% chance of getting it right.
It's 1/3... either Broba... Cal... or Ninja
Just now, TheToad said:It's 1/3... either Broba... Cal... or Ninja
I'd further that down to Broba or Ninja. I'm still not sold on Truthi.
2 minutes ago, Visovics said:Not complete lylo, if the any cultist is killed at night, the game carries on, but I agree this is something we need to take really carefully. Okay, this may be the final day, is it time for all to come to light with their roles?
If we hit a cultist today... the SK hits one of us and the cult replaces the one we lynch... so we'd be down 2 and the cult stays the same and we lose right?
1 minute ago, Rocmistro said:I'd further that down to Broba or Ninja. I'm still not sold on Truthi.
I'm sure Truthi isn't the cult leader or SK... he might be a cult member now though
@Madaghmire what are you thinking?
"Why would the cult leader filibuster the 1st night and deny themselves the ability to recruit a person!?!? It doesn't make any sense".
When you consider that time is on their side and how CRITICALLY important the cult LEADER's role is, it actually makes a lot of sense. Denying a first night's worth of investigative roles, the opportunity to lynch a second person and sow discord throughout day 2...to roleclaim filibuster and then have everyone agree that it makes no sense whatsoever for Scum to do that.
Just now, Rocmistro said:"Why would the cult leader filibuster the 1st night and deny themselves the ability to recruit a person!?!? It doesn't make any sense".
When you consider that time is on their side and how CRITICALLY important the cult LEADER's role is, it actually makes a lot of sense. Denying a first night's worth of investigative roles, the opportunity to lynch a second person and sow discord throughout day 2...to roleclaim filibuster and then have everyone agree that it makes no sense whatsoever for Scum to do that.
Dammit Roc... that's some good work there... I'm promoting you to Deputy Captain of the Senate guard... but I don't think a cult leader would also have the fillibust ability... I mean that is too evil on JJ's part
I have already stated it is imperative that we treat today as a lylo day in regards to the cult. What do cult leaders do? They say as little as humanly possible and try to not drag attention to themselves. There are 2 people that fit that profile in this game.
Caldias and Imp Captain have said less and participated less than any other player in this game, if it doesn't read scum then it absolutely reads cult leader my guess is that one of them is scum and the other cult leader.
In my mind there are 5 people that are "cult free" and that is truthi, mad, visovics (doubly so because he talked about cults in chat with me, a cult no no), rocmistro, and myself for the reason listed for visovics.
@Caldias nice rail out the gate to deflect the attention off you, but Pod went down that road and before he was lynched even he was under the impression I was town. That said, to address my "slip ups", 1) semantic disagreement. You think my contribution does not equal depth, I think it does. Any time you are active in hunting scum and your post count climbs you put yourself at risk of having inactives come and link things you said out of context to try and throw shade your way, I was prepared for you to do this. 2) yes I did offer to claim, but that was before the threat of a cult became extremely real. Going into the night where I made that offer I thought the best way to use my role was to claim and use it to protect myself. If we fail to lynch the cult leader today, then my role could be the only thing that prevents the cult from winning this game in the morning. I absolutely need to think about this and make sure I make the right call on it, because you can't make secrets secret again.
32 minutes ago, Visovics said:Not complete lylo, if the any cultist is killed at night, the game carries on, but I agree this is something we need to take really carefully. Okay, this may be the final day, is it time for all to come to light with their roles?
I agree...
As the SUPREME CHANCELLOR of this senate I order you to come forth and sate your name (flavor name) and duties(role) for the record... any hesitation in fulfilling this request will be taken as evidence in the following tribunal
Hoo boy, here goes:
I am Representative Jar Jar Binks. My duty is fairly useless. I can visit someone, but due to my bungling nature I leave evidence that I visited, so the person knows I came to them. Don't know how helpful that is, but there you go.
11 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:I have already stated it is imperative that we treat today as a lylo day in regards to the cult. What do cult leaders do? They say as little as humanly possible and try to not drag attention to themselves. There are 2 people that fit that profile in this game.
Caldias and Imp Captain have said less and participated less than any other player in this game, if it doesn't read scum then it absolutely reads cult leader my guess is that one of them is scum and the other cult leader.
In my mind there are 5 people that are "cult free" and that is truthi, mad, visovics (doubly so because he talked about cults in chat with me, a cult no no), rocmistro, and myself for the reason listed for visovics.
@Caldias nice rail out the gate to deflect the attention off you, but Pod went down that road and before he was lynched even he was under the impression I was town. That said, to address my "slip ups", 1) semantic disagreement. You think my contribution does not equal depth, I think it does. Any time you are active in hunting scum and your post count climbs you put yourself at risk of having inactives come and link things you said out of context to try and throw shade your way, I was prepared for you to do this. 2) yes I did offer to claim, but that was before the threat of a cult became extremely real. Going into the night where I made that offer I thought the best way to use my role was to claim and use it to protect myself. If we fail to lynch the cult leader today, then my role could be the only thing that prevents the cult from winning this game in the morning. I absolutely need to think about this and make sure I make the right call on it, because you can't make secrets secret again.
Hey, I'm just saying if you define your own analysis as in depth and multiple times, it's not exactly fair to say I've been "under the radar." By my eye we've contributed equally, I just haven't grandstanded about my own contributions.
As for your second rebut, you offered to claim well before there was even a cult suspected, which we found out about today, unless you suspected all along and didn't say anything, which is also kind of alarming.
5 minutes ago, Caldias said:Hoo boy, here goes:
I am Representative Jar Jar Binks. My duty is fairly useless. I can visit someone, but due to my bungling nature I leave evidence that I visited, so the person knows I came to them. Don't know how helpful that is, but there you go.
Darth Jar Jar. Imo we kill this one.
4 minutes ago, Caldias said:Hoo boy, here goes:
I am Representative Jar Jar Binks. My duty is fairly useless. I can visit someone, but due to my bungling nature I leave evidence that I visited, so the person knows I came to them. Don't know how helpful that is, but there you go.
Wait so what role is it and what does it do?
Just now, Visovics said:Wait so what role is it and what does it do?
Sorry, I want to be careful not to quote anything. I was told it was the equivalent of a Fruit Vendor, but with different flavor.
On 8/30/2017 at 6:31 AM, Visovics said:* a cult
On 8/30/2017 at 7:32 AM, BrobaFett said:I had this thought too Vis, maybe we are dealing with a cult. It was my first thought when Truth filibustered and skilled the night and ability that seemed odd unless it was added as a way to halt the cult from growing too quick. I don't know if there is any substance to it, but glad to see I wasn't alone in the thought process.
@Caldias it was a part of my in depth analysis on wednesday. It isn't suspicious, it is all our job to look for things like that to figure out the puzzle of the game. Since evidently you missed it, I quoted the exchange here.
1 minute ago, Caldias said:Sorry, I want to be careful not to quote anything. I was told it was the equivalent of a Fruit Vendor, but with different flavor.
We've had 2 nights, who did you visit? And please can we have explanation on what your role
Just now, Visovics said:We've had 2 nights, who did you visit? And please can we have explanation on what your role
Does*
sent too early sorry
5 minutes ago, Caldias said:Sorry, I want to be careful not to quote anything. I was told it was the equivalent of a Fruit Vendor, but with different flavor.
So what, like, kool aid?
7 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:
@Caldias it was a part of my in depth analysis on wednesday. It isn't suspicious, it is all our job to look for things like that to figure out the puzzle of the game. Since evidently you missed it, I quoted the exchange here.
Okay, that's fair, I did miss that. So you suspected since 8/28, though, since that would be the day you said you would claim? And didn't mention your suspicions until two days later?
Nothing personal, you just came at me pretty hard right out the gate, claiming I am tied with biggest threat to town with no reasons beyond me being "under the radar" so that piqued my suspicions.
3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:So what, like, kool aid?
Hahaha, sort of. I just visit the person but instead of giving them fruit, I bungle around and mess up their room, and that person knows I was there.
7 minutes ago, Visovics said:We've had 2 nights, who did you visit? And please can we have explanation on what your role
I visited you the first night, and I visited CaribbeanNinja the second night. And see above for the role, it seems pretty useless. I think all it does is let people know that I'm useless? No idea if it somehow interacts with someone else's role.
I have to go drop my dog off at the sitter, but will be happy to discuss anything else when I get back.
Just now, Caldias said:Hahaha, sort of. I just visit the person but instead of giving them fruit, I bungle around and mess up their room, and that person knows I was there.
I visited you the first night, and I visited CaribbeanNinja the second night. And see above for the role, it seems pretty useless. I think all it does is let people know that I'm useless? No idea if it somehow interacts with someone else's role.
Checks for me, apparently seems to be a variant of fruit vendor. Also, it interacts with Mood's role and Norrel's in a way, because you don't do anything, but your results would show differently than a vanilla, Norrel would see you out of your house, Mood would see you had visited.
@CaribbeanNinja @BrobaFett if you both could do the same as Caldias and provide name, role and role explanation as well as targets, town would be grateful