Okay, HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THIS SETUP HAVE TRUE LOYALTY FOR THE REPUBLIC!

One guy is leading both sides of the war

One guy is funding the other side of the war

One guy is vulnerable to bribing and so would join the other side of the war

Wait a second that's 3

Its almost like jj warned us not to go by flavor

This is some dodgy setup

On 19/08/2017 at 1:18 AM, JJs Juggernaut said:

Flavor in texts, should they be included, are relevant to the game,

JJ, this is some dodgy borderlines you went with the flavour-specific timing of the setup

I think I've got this figured out!

Flavour is relevant. Ovi was found with a blasterbolt in the CENTER OF HIS HEAD! That's a marksman's doing. there is no mafia here

Ovi was killed by a serial killer, flavour infiltrated bounty hunter, who can bypass protection, or at least he can pass by SG-1984

The other 2 threats? CIS conspirators, seeking no more than just manipulating the vote to prevent further funding of the Republic Clone Army.

Am I going crazy?

Just now, Visovics said:

CIS conspirators, seeking no more than just manipulating the vote to prevent further funding of the Republic Clone Army.

* a cult

8 minutes ago, Visovics said:

I think I've got this figured out!

Flavour is relevant. Ovi was found with a blasterbolt in the CENTER OF HIS HEAD! That's a marksman's doing. there is no mafia here

Ovi was killed by a serial killer, flavour infiltrated bounty hunter, who can bypass protection, or at least he can pass by SG-1984

The other 2 threats? CIS conspirators, seeking no more than just manipulating the vote to prevent further funding of the Republic Clone Army.

Am I going crazy?

Im thinking no to all of...this...

@Visovics

When I tried to go there and link a game of mafia into it it didn't work for me either.

its good that you're thinking about ovi and the reasons, who did he threaten with his claim?

23 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

who did he threaten with his claim?

no one directly, he just said he had a super plan of using his "not so great" gladiator role

Later he pointed his suspicions to Caldias and Moodswing, but never mentioned the intention of using his role in either.

Ok just finished catching up.

1. So, about the triumvirate. I was told I was a Senate Guard, and there was one other Senate Guard (ie "person with the same role"), and that I would get my "orders" (more like a 'suggestion') from a "Captain". I was not told the names of those individuals. I have since tried to feel those 2 persons out, and everything that Visovics and Mad have stated checks out and confirms/corroborates that. Is it possible that JJ foooked with me by making them both scum? Yes...in which case they are probably laughing their asses off. But if he did that...that's almost as good as having a +1 to scum, since I'm going to trust them and I take orders from one of them. Ie, I could be doing scum work without even knowing about it. That seems really crappy setup/design to me.

2. I'm sticking with Pod for my vote. He's confusiing and chaotic, which only Scum benefits from him. He starts to make sense when he gets pressed so as to save his butt and redirect. That's the pattern...and that pattern strikes me as scummy. I implore town to lynch him.

3. I actually don't think Mood is scum. I've got my reasonings (has nothing to do with secret knowledge or knowing someone's role), just some deduction, but I'm not going to go into that right now.

54 minutes ago, Visovics said:

* a cult

I had this thought too Vis, maybe we are dealing with a cult. It was my first thought when Truth filibustered and skilled the night and ability that seemed odd unless it was added as a way to halt the cult from growing too quick. I don't know if there is any substance to it, but glad to see I wasn't alone in the thought process.

5 minutes ago, Rocmistro said:

I was not told the names of those individuals

No need to lie to town my friend, everyone knows you knew it since D1

On 26/08/2017 at 0:54 AM, Rocmistro said:

Ok guys. Maybe a little too late here, but that's what happens when you have a wife.

I have a town role. I'm not ready to say what it is yet to give Scum ammo.

But i'm going to say this: Visovics and I have the same role.

I don't think town would have two of the same role.

I'm also not impressed with his "voice" to protect me if he is the same alignment as me (town).

I risked the thing with Truthi to draw some aggro on myself and see how Visovics would react. I didn't realize I'd get THAT MUCH AGGRO. In my opinion, Visovics put up just enough of a defense to say "look, I defended Roc!" but not enough to actually change anyone's mind.

I'm not saying Visovics is scum, but I don't think he's town.

##Vote Visovics

7 minutes ago, Rocmistro said:

3. I actually don't think Mood is scum. I've got my reasonings (has nothing to do with secret knowledge or knowing someone's role), just some deduction, but I'm not going to go into that right now.

This is exactly the time to go into this. What good does it do at the 11th hour of the deadline or after mood is lynched?

1 minute ago, BrobaFett said:

This is exactly the time to go into this. What good does it do at the 11th hour of the deadline or after mood is lynched?

Mood's not in any danger of being lynched.

2 minutes ago, Rocmistro said:

Mood's not in any danger of being lynched.

You could have said he same of Norell like an hour before he hung

5 minutes ago, Visovics said:

No need to lie to town my friend, everyone knows you knew it since D1

I didn't lie. I said "I was not told the names of those individuals" and that is true. Pretty scum to push this agenda, Vis.

Just now, Rocmistro said:

I didn't lie. I said "I was not told the names of those individuals" and that is true. Pretty scum to push this agenda, Vis.

Read as "didn't know" that one is heavily embarrasing from my part, because well, you did know, my bad

3 minutes ago, Rocmistro said:

Mood's not in any danger of being lynched.

Pod and visovics have votes on him, others have expressed that he has seemed suspicious, that is the groundwork of a late-in-the-day lynch. I can't say it won't happen despite not particularly believing mood is guilty myself.

2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

You could have said he same of Norell like an hour before he hung

Yeah but I didn't have any reason to believe anything about Norell, good or bad.

My understanding of Lylo goes like this:

1. Lynch highly suspect scum people (first priority)

2. Lynch lesser suspect scum people (second priority).

and without that...

3. Lynch at random for pressure, to ferret out lies, etc.

I sure wouldn't want to be lynched. Especially since I haven't seen a single piece of evidence to prove I've acted like scum, or anything but town.

3 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Pod and visovics have votes on him, others have expressed that he has seemed suspicious, that is the groundwork of a late-in-the-day lynch. I can't say it won't happen despite not particularly believing mood is guilty myself.

If it gets closer to that point, I'll get into more why I believe what I believe about Mood (just an FYI, it's not nearly as shattering as this scenario is making it out to be).

In the meantime, I'd still like to know more about why Toad knows the exact number of threats.

1 minute ago, Rocmistro said:

Yeah but I didn't have any reason to believe anything about Norell, good or bad.

My understanding of Lylo goes like this:

1. Lynch highly suspect scum people (first priority)

2. Lynch lesser suspect scum people (second priority).

and without that...

3. Lynch at random for pressure, to ferret out lies, etc.

just for the information, a lylo is only when lynching a wrong target makes you lose the game, the last 2 days happened with rushed bandwagons

Just now, Visovics said:

just for the information, a lylo is only when lynching a wrong target makes you lose the game, the last 2 days happened with rushed bandwagons

I thought Lylo was "Lynch or lose" and just meant a philosophy that, as much as it pains you, you need to start lynching people early even on the chance you are going to hit townies. Because the alternative, to wait and try to be precise about catching scum, isn't going to get you anywhere.