[MAFIA] The Wheels of Democracy ***GAME OVER***

By JJs Juggernaut, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

@Madaghmire @Visovics @Rocmistro So you guys are Senate guards right? I don't want to know what your role does but rather what the role is called just curious

Edit: what the flavor name of the role is

Going to bed. See you all in a few hours...

49 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Ok lets take this a different direction.

@Caldias and @CaribbeanNinja where do the two of you stand? Lot of info today and some input but not much from the two of you. What are your thoughts?

So here's where I stand: This game has been crazy as JJ promised.

Right now Pod has painted himself into a corner. If he's scum and over played his hand, yay! If he's town and he's over played his hand, yay we got Pod to shut up! As good as he thinks he is, he would be great if instead of being a troll he actually played appropriately. He says its for fun, but I know I had a lot more fun when it was all about intrigue and not nonsense.

If nothing changes by tomorrow, he might be the one hammered.

I'm not sure about Mood or Impcaptain. They've been outliers on the voting. Imps made some statements that concern.

Broba and Cal have been very bland this game. Not much there. That could be bad.

I currently believe in the triumvirate but with reservations.

I'm worried about TheToad pulling out of the vote yesterday and also the whole Palpatine thing. Also "knowing" how many scum there are.

Truths claim panned out but I'm like 90/10 on him being town now (suspicion has grown a tad).

If I had to guess (like Truth did), my suspects would be Pod, Broba and Cal. Pods been loving on Cal and hard on Broba. It kinda fits. Broba and Cal play soft while Pod goes apeshit. Cal I think has been in scum slots on the votes. (I'm not very sure about this guess though maybe 20%?)

2 hours ago, Truthiness said:

TheToad- Papa Palpy. Gave us some potentially helpful information about the number of Scum. Willing to trust for now.

BrobaFett- High on Pod's list and has thrown shade on one verified townie and one that's leaning that way. Not much to go off of though.

CaribbeanNinja- With so much content I would expected more analysis, but I'm having a hard time with reads this game too. Your play is reminding me a bit of your forays into scumland.

Madaghmire- Triumverate #1. I can almost never trust you in this. You are exceptionally good at detaching your town persona from your Scum play. I'm willing to trust you if Roc says so, but I still can't shake the feeling one of the guards is crooked.

Visovics- As stated, you've been throwing a lot of shade, voted for two townies, and been spilling details about your shared role with Roc and Mad against their express wishes. As with Mad, I'm willing to forgive and forget for now if Roc vouches for you.

Rocmistro- Reading pretty town and I'm going to trust you for now. Please let me know your thoughts on Vis and Mad as soon as you're on.

moodswing5537- His usual temperamental self.

Caldias- I'm not remembering much substance to your posts. I might have to do another scrub like I did with Broba.

ImperialCaptain2017- Too busy having affairs with Jedi Padawans and constant assassination attempts. The role is about in line with what I would expect from JJ.

PodRacer- Your character is about as Scummy as it gets, you're erratic as all ****, and you're a vote thief in a game that supposedly only has 3 scum. It's almost too easy to be true.

After walking through this, my suspicion is team Scum is Mood, Ninja, and Pod. I can't quite put my finger on it, but Ninja has been pretty close to his masterful play a few games back. He's ducking in and out of votes while also throwing shade at both his potential partners in a way that makes me think he's trying to solidify his cover.

Good list, will look back through the threads in the am and try to follow your thinking. I've tried to have substance to my posts, but this has been a lot to go through. I've given my reasoning behind every vote, though, and asked pointed questions for clarification.

Ninja is impossible to figure out, so honestly could go either way. Mood hasn't given me many scummy vibes, but my scumdar has been off this game. Pod, more and more, it does sort of feel like he's trying to scum in plain sight. He himself accused Visovics of being a scum dreadnought. Maybe he's the scum dreadnought after all.

The triumvirate (Mad, Vis, Roc) I am willing to trust for now. Their interactions have me believe that they are town, and the abilities feel towny in my experience of the game, which admittedly is limited. I don't rule out the possibility of one of them being scum, but I highly doubt more than one would be.

Imp Cap I've been suspicious of before but his claim seems believable, and no one has spoken up claiming to be the real senator from Naboo.

Truthiness feels town to me, and was honest about his ability. Still, not completely beyond suspicion (no one is) but very low on my list of scum

The Toad - his ability also feels town, but again could be a false claim ability. If he was scum declaring the number of threats would be an easy role to bluff, and a hard one to confirm.

BrobaFett - I don't have much on him either, will reread Truthinesses wall of the Broba and try to analyze.

I looked back but couldn't find it, maybe I missed it. Roc said he visited someone, only one person can confirm, and Mad said yes, he visited me. Roc made it seem like this might reveal something, did any fruit come from that? Like I said, coulda missed it.

1 hour ago, BrobaFett said:

Ok lets take this a different direction.

@Caldias and @CaribbeanNinja where do the two of you stand? Lot of info today and some input but not much from the two of you. What are your thoughts?

For me, suspicions are currently with Pod, and behind that is quite a distance, either CNinja, Mood, or Imp Cap. But those aren't exactly super comfortable, like maybe 60%? Pod I'm 80% on just cause it seems like he might be doing the boldest scum play ever and just figuring no one will think he's THAT ridiculous. CNinja voted for Norell fairly close after I did, and so could be an attempt to ride the train discreetly. Again, this is pretty weaksauce, and I will again say my instincts don't have a stellar track record this game, so I want to be VERY careful before casting another vote.

16 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Good list, will look back through the threads in the am and try to follow your thinking. I've tried to have substance to my posts, but this has been a lot to go through. I've given my reasoning behind every vote, though, and asked pointed questions for clarification.

Ninja is impossible to figure out, so honestly could go either way. Mood hasn't given me many scummy vibes, but my scumdar has been off this game. Pod, more and more, it does sort of feel like he's trying to scum in plain sight. He himself accused Visovics of being a scum dreadnought. Maybe he's the scum dreadnought after all.

The triumvirate (Mad, Vis, Roc) I am willing to trust for now. Their interactions have me believe that they are town, and the abilities feel towny in my experience of the game, which admittedly is limited. I don't rule out the possibility of one of them being scum, but I highly doubt more than one would be.

Imp Cap I've been suspicious of before but his claim seems believable, and no one has spoken up claiming to be the real senator from Naboo.

Truthiness feels town to me, and was honest about his ability. Still, not completely beyond suspicion (no one is) but very low on my list of scum

The Toad - his ability also feels town, but again could be a false claim ability. If he was scum declaring the number of threats would be an easy role to bluff, and a hard one to confirm.

BrobaFett - I don't have much on him either, will reread Truthinesses wall of the Broba and try to analyze.

I looked back but couldn't find it, maybe I missed it. Roc said he visited someone, only one person can confirm, and Mad said yes, he visited me. Roc made it seem like this might reveal something, did any fruit come from that? Like I said, coulda missed it.

For me, suspicions are currently with Pod, and behind that is quite a distance, either CNinja, Mood, or Imp Cap. But those aren't exactly super comfortable, like maybe 60%? Pod I'm 80% on just cause it seems like he might be doing the boldest scum play ever and just figuring no one will think he's THAT ridiculous. CNinja voted for Norell fairly close after I did, and so could be an attempt to ride the train discreetly. Again, this is pretty weaksauce, and I will again say my instincts don't have a stellar track record this game, so I want to be VERY careful before casting another vote.

I did not say Roc visited me. I said I knew what he did.

2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I did not say Roc visited me. I said I knew what he did.

Ah, you're right. Apologies, I was going by memory before I hit the hay. Roc did sort of present it like it would be shocking information, but when you confirmed you know what he did it didn't seem to reveal anything that we didn't already know or suspect.

5 hours ago, PodRacer said:

didnt he quote a serial number of some sort?

maybe a faulty issue compared to Roc

Okay, it's not because Roc is the "famous one" that I'm faulty... I also bet that Mad has a cannon name, and I'm the odd one out of the 3... not sad at all...

2 hours ago, TheToad said:

@Madaghmire @Visovics @Rocmistro So you guys are Senate guards right? I don't want to know what your role does but rather what the role is called just curious

Wait so you want role name or flavour name? In flavour we are senate guards, I'm SG-1983 and Roc is SG-1984, I don't know Mad's flavour, but I do know he's above me in hierarchy

@Visovics I'm gonna be using the votes soon, and we should talk soon.

in the meantime share with me a couple of likely scum, let's see if some time apart has bought us closer eh?

11 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

@Visovics I'm gonna be using the votes soon, and we should talk soon.

in the meantime share with me a couple of likely scum, let's see if some time apart has bought us closer eh?

I'm mainly eyeing right now: Mood, Imp Cap and you, although in light of recent revelations, I'm willing to give Imp another night, and not gonna lie, if you are town your character really plays against you

7 hours ago, Truthiness said:

CaribbeanNinja- With so much content I would expected more analysis, but I'm having a hard time with reads this game too. Your play is reminding me a bit of your forays into scumland.

How true is this Truth, we apply different criteria to the hunt, but came out at the same place here.

my big concern at this point is that Ninja WOULD sacrifice himself(with a town role) just too prove me the idiot he wants so hard to believe i am. (and for that reason hes a liability to town at this point. too clouded by the dark side)

Im looking for a nice exit strategy back into the corner with my clouring books. I want the other players to lead. And finish this thing.

Town players, hogging the chat etc was a neccesary evil, because of the poor investigating that went into our first two lynches.

I would emplore the watcher to confirm me if possible to clear all the doubt and push the game on once today is done.

##vote @CaribbeanNinja

##stolen vote @CaribbeanNinja

1 hour ago, Visovics said:

Mood, Imp Cap and you

yep iv stopped at two of these stations along the way. If they are scum how do you plan to track their consistency moving moving forwards?

Just now, PodRacer said:

yep iv stopped at two of these stations along the way. If they are scum how do you plan to track their consistency moving moving forwards?

look at all the *sigh* 49 pages looking at all their posts and likes, compare D1, with D2, and recent D3 play, possibly look on past games if I'm really convinced that there is some scumminess that I can't see only in that game

ok, just dont be pushing for mass reveals or basing too much on the flavour of the characters surname, i feel like its a bad path for the game, and esp the '3'

Do you think the scum would be so bold as to all jump on the same vote in a day,unwittingly, pre scum chat?

i think most of the real truth can be found during the long day.

If @Truthiness is scummy whos he protecting

Likewise Cninja,

One of the big boys is lying, im almost certain about it at this point.

Before it gets redacted and released, scum chat probably reads

1) trigger podracer- well too late i was already triggered before the day started.

2)watch town fall all over themselves trying to work Pod out.

3)profit

4) work time- this is the time between now and the lynch, be dismissive of Pod and vote anyone who supports him.

we know how to search, we know how to make Pod a nice quiet boy again we have the tools and the incentive

do i even need a motivational video?

I DONT CLAIM TO BE PERFECT, but i am honest. im not condeming anyone who wants to be realistic about my actions, say what you have to about me, FIND A SCUM.

cmon TAYN

Okay, given the record of the past days, we better start getting into the overall decision of the day, because some people will not be awake at the end, and 3 days lynching without defense is just straight up wrong, so let's try to not leave it for the few last hours.

I'm leaning towards Moodswing at the moment

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

2)watch town fall all over themselves

This is kind of what all scum try to do, you know, get town to lynch town with as less intervention from them as possible, it's how scum play

it was too prevalent on the long day. If anyone was really silly and hid a sour vote for GNIPS behind a false story of confusion or some such,

step forwards and confess

norell was too quiet/busy and answered with his life. Whilst he was all town to me, why was he still more important than taking a gamble on the meta?? he stated his case and was acountable to it. Bad Town BAd, or good scum. i felt very unsure about that @BrobaFett You kicked his corpse.

@moodswing5537

Say hes annoyed and confused by pod, but doesnt seem like the type that wouldnt do his homework, or have been told by his buddy that some crazy guy was tearing down the mafia on the forum.

Show me why they talk about you so highly...just channel it else where please, who are your long shots?

@Visovics

Can i get some positive waves please

@TheToad

hit them with the data

9 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

@Visovics

Can i get some positive waves please

What do you want me to do? I'm trying to get town to talk

need to borrow a random vote?

tell me who