I feel like you're fixating again Pod. What is your reasoning for Broba? I think it's time for me to do a re-read of the thread.
[MAFIA] The Wheels of Democracy ***GAME OVER***
let me have a chat with him hopefully its another mis understanding
@Visovics talk to mood, tell him why you cant vote but how youre hoping to be able too 2moro, maybe suggest im sorry, i tried to warn him
On 8/24/2017 at 8:59 PM, Caldias said:It's hard to discern whether his nonsense is scummy or just straight up Pod doing Pod. Podracer is basically Charlie Day in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Hopefully his ramblings will lead us somewhere, but hopes should not be very high, like 0.76 meters at best.
OMG y'all I had to post this as I think I may have made sense of the situation:
9 minutes ago, Truthiness said:I feel like you're fixating again Pod. What is your reasoning for Broba? I think it's time for me to do a re-read of the thread.
Okay back to this. Here is the problem I was trying to get Pod to understand Sunday. It makes no sense for him to just blurt out names and offer nothing as to why he suspects folks. I ask him why he voted the way he did and he came back at me.
It has gone like this:
Pod:"Broba, Mood, Impcap, vote, bad, scum, etc. etc."
Then everybody just ignores him and we get literally nothing out of it but distractions. Most of the time people just ignore him. It is hard for us to rally behind him ever because of this. I really wish he'd change this because I know that he can.
I'm not gonna let my annoyance with pod get in the way of my judgement. I don't want to condemn another town member. We are running low.
On 8/23/2017 at 11:47 PM, BrobaFett said:Lol right out the gates! Thanks for starting us off with the random agro to stir the pot.
I think it is also worth noting, meta wise, that with the shorter days we are still going to have plenty of time to stir the pot, but I just don't want anyone getting surprised by the day ending and not getting enough input in.
On 8/24/2017 at 9:54 AM, BrobaFett said:@moodswing5537 good attempt at channelling the ghost of ginkapo.
No one but a townie would be brave enough to try that.
On 8/24/2017 at 0:23 PM, BrobaFett said:Brace yourself, spam is coming! (I won't sully this thread by actually linking the meme)
On 8/24/2017 at 2:42 PM, BrobaFett said:Mine was clear, but it was based on my knowledge of the Clone Wars TV series. This wouldn't technically be flavor giving things away, so I don't think it is that. If this was anything but day 1 where it's kind of a shot in the dark anyway I would think we would find something more solid to base a lynch on. All I am saying is it is something, but all in all it's pretty flimsy.
On 8/24/2017 at 6:05 PM, BrobaFett said:Mrs. Fett is very very pleased Pod hahah
On 8/25/2017 at 1:08 AM, BrobaFett said:Well what a good first day it's been.
Looks like the big format is going to be a lot of fun. Night senators
On 8/25/2017 at 5:11 PM, BrobaFett said:Hey guys sorry I fell behind as I had 2 boys to take of by myself this morning and I was tapped.
I think I have missed a few pages but it looks like consensus is lynch Roc?
Even without a claim? I guess its as good as any other vote I just don't get a big scum vibe off Roc.
Let me catch up a bit and I will cast a vote in like 5.
On 8/25/2017 at 5:23 PM, BrobaFett said:Yeah super not down to vote Roc today, but imp captain and pod both benefitted from the aggro getting shifted off of them.
Imp captain voted and faded away, pod voted and then continued and now pulled his counter vote.
One of these things looks scummier than the other.
Far from a solid lead but it was something that stood out to me. Maybe imp captain would want to rejoin the conversation at this point.
##vote @ImperialCaptain2017
On 8/25/2017 at 5:24 PM, BrobaFett said:Saw you were stepping away cap, did you still stand by your vote?
On 8/25/2017 at 6:36 PM, BrobaFett said:Hmm the ghost vote is on Imp captain... I missed that.
For now I am leaving my vote but I don't particularly like the fact I am voting along with a secret vote.
I still thought his vote and leave was suspicious, but an early secret vote looks like someone trying to build momentum on him. But no one else I have noticed has spoken much about him and I am definitely not a double voting role.
On 8/25/2017 at 8:21 PM, BrobaFett said:Man what a crazy day. What the heck Roc and Vis? Is one of you a liar? Is that what we are seeing.
Also, I don't know how I feel about voting some one that can't claim day 1. I voted imp captain as he was leaving, our posts got sent at the exact same time. He had the chance to claim quick I had hoped and chose not to.
GNIPs is doing a ton right now and I know his behavior is shady but I just don't know if it's not indicative of being busy.
That said its day 1 and we don't have a ton of options.
Ill watch and revise my vote if necessary.
On 8/25/2017 at 8:57 PM, BrobaFett said:Lol not hammer? Still nifty ability. Hope it's 2 shot or too much to ask haha?
On 8/25/2017 at 9:07 PM, BrobaFett said:Hmm hadn't thought of it that way.
So is it day 2 or are we still down a vote?
On 8/25/2017 at 9:44 PM, BrobaFett said:Yeah, it gives us half an hour before @Visovics forces 7 of us to mass claim hahaha
On 8/25/2017 at 10:24 PM, BrobaFett said:Your avatar changed, this a battle you already lost my friend.
On 8/26/2017 at 2:18 AM, BrobaFett said:Yeah sleep for me too. Appears like day 2 will be a continuation of 1 as far as cryptic claims and accusations go.
Lets hope morning finds us with something to go on!
On 8/26/2017 at 1:29 PM, BrobaFett said:I think you have come to the conclusion there is no logic to truth being town other than sucking up.
I would lynch the **** out of truth in an instant with no second guess. But he has been super fortunate the last two games to get day 2 almost sure he is town roles that could be verified.
We know his claim isn't fake because it worked.
That means he is telling the truth. That is the most town thing you can do in this game. He could be scum. So could you. Or any of us. But you have to go off the information we have.
While we are arguing about Truth what is very likely is that scum is quietly smiling to themselves and letting town hack itself apart.
So who had been quiet day 2? Norrel? Pod Racer? Let's look there and see what turns up.
On 8/26/2017 at 1:42 PM, BrobaFett said:He used his role is the long and short of it for me. It's not incredibly impressive but we know he had a day roll, and one that didn't really benefit scum. Yes it affected town, but it makes no sense for the scum to have the ability to skip their own strategy and kill phase.
From there it becomes occams razor. If there is a good chance this was a town beneficial role that worked (ie he wasn't fake claiming which we know he wasnt) and a very small chance that it was an underpowered oddly given scum role, then it is most likely the first.
At least we HAVE evidence on truth. There are a lot of people we have NO evidence on. So for town, it is time to leave what we know about truth to the side for now, and focus on a wider net. Its not that we forget truth isn't 100%, but that for day 2 80% is more than enough to avoid pressure for the lynch.
Hope that answers it for you. That is my logic plain and simple.
On 8/26/2017 at 1:55 PM, BrobaFett said:You have a point.
I am still personally very skeptical that scum with no chat would be that bold however.
On 8/26/2017 at 7:34 PM, BrobaFett said:Hey guys I caught up but despite sleeping most of the day look a like haven't gone anywhere except for establishing that we should probably lynch someone. Good idea!
Vis and Roc doesn't seem like a terrible place to start, but Norrel has seemed scummier to me.
Totally honest, Toad and Mood I have no read on what so ever. Which could be some good ol fashioned scum play right there as well.
On 8/26/2017 at 10:41 PM, BrobaFett said:Gender assumption hypocrite.
@Madaghmire you are right I had my vote on imp captain. Imo he was the one that read most scum to me from his erratic voting and then the vote and peace out when I asked him to comment.
And while I did mention Roc/Vics I want to bring it back to the point when Roc was a practically sure fire lynch and I talked people down OFF that ledge. Definitely not in the business of lynching town prospects, but I am just trying to figure out why Vis and Roc keeping going after each other when all we want to do is trust them as town. That is what can't help but feel scummy.
On 8/27/2017 at 2:53 AM, BrobaFett said:I'm off to sleep. Seems like things went a little quiet.
With any luck ill wake up and Podracer will have found all the scum and made my job that much easier
On 8/27/2017 at 11:37 AM, BrobaFett said:I didn't acknowledge your vote because it wasn't based on anything and is just the dumb stuff you do.
Speaking of that, @Truthiness one of the unintended consequences of no night is that we have given Pod and his accuse first troll second approach to the game two days to do his thing without any hard night evidence to counteract it.
That said, I'm not going to be petty and counter vote Pod because that is just stupid because he just always acts like that.
As an aside, I also don't think we should ever get into a position where we attack the IRL person in this game.
Refering to someone's skillset isn't saying the person they are pretending to be is bad in game, its saying they themselves are bad. And it doesn't belong here.
On 8/27/2017 at 4:04 PM, BrobaFett said:There are a lot of quiet people today. I just got home church and have dinner with extended family tonight so I don't expect to be very active tonight.
After the weekend is over I will be able to spend much more time in this thread.
That said I have nothing new to add. I would currently vote for Norrell or Imp captain and have explained in depth and multiple occasions that logic. Not interested in any more Pod witch hunts right now and would probably be willing to policy vote him.
Has he been scum yet? Just to compare behavior. Would love to vote him and catch a scum but just don't see us being that lucky.
On 8/27/2017 at 10:21 PM, BrobaFett said:Just got back from dinner and lol Pod
You certainly are turning the screws. That said I don't see how anything I said isn't for town. Tomorrow I will claim, and we will test my skill and see if I am scum. For now I think you take my sincerity almost as incorrectly as I take your random votes and high pressure. I'm not a high pressure player. And yes, I would consider myself a nice player. For you that's a negative but I do my best to explain my logic for everything I do.
I didn't vote before I went to dinner but declared my vote intentions on Norrel hoping he would see my tag. Since he isn't here and we are out of time my vote will stand ##vote norell
21 hours ago, BrobaFett said:The toad. That is an interesting place to start. That sounds about right to me so I am partial to believe you, but is there a way you can go a little bit deeper without giving anything away since we established right away that 3 or 4 scum was likely?
16 hours ago, BrobaFett said:Hmmm that could get nasty as we get down to the end. Assuming this is scum aligned ability? Don't see how this could benefit town.
Anyway, time for sleep. See you in the morning.
8 hours ago, BrobaFett said:Ok Bast-ard Brigade, now that your love fest is concluding where are we looking for scum, if not at the three of you. Which I mean, I am actually super glad the three of you can verify each other, because if that is the case it gives town a really solid lynching core vote to build off of, but it still puts us in the position of returning to where we were before all that, and needing to look at the votes and whatever happened last night to find some scum.
8 hours ago, BrobaFett said:Negative waves! I gave you guys a baller nickname! Would you rather be the Triumvirate, or the Bastard Brigade? I'd take the latter.
7 hours ago, BrobaFett said:@Rocmistro I already asked and I don't think we can without undo risk. For now I am content to believe him, but if we lynch pod regardless of what he ends up being it will help us clarify Toads information.
Pod are you talking about Truthi in last game in this game? I think that might end up being needlessly confusing for people who weren't in that one.
Additionally, he raises a logical point about your alignment, and I get that you don't want to lynch more town but is there an actual response somewhere in there?
7 hours ago, BrobaFett said:How was stealing someones vote supposed to prove you town? Are you trying to steal a scum vote? If so then why Vis that you yourself already consider to be town? I don't get it.
## vote Podracer.
7 hours ago, BrobaFett said:## unvote
I don't want to get that close to lynch yet and mood ninja'd me.
6 hours ago, BrobaFett said:@PodRacerI haven't been sitting on the fence. I have clearly outlined who I thought was scummy multiple times, and have stuck to that. Just because I haven't agreed with who the VOTES decided was scummy doesn't mean I have been fence sitting. I am more than willing to vote for you because of your claim at this moment. See, ## vote podracer
I still think Imp Captain is quiet scum.
I didn't think Gnips was scum and didn't vote for him, and though Norrel was scum from D1, voted for him, and was wrong. Just because I don't vote first and ask questions later doesn't mean I am not decisive.
3 hours ago, BrobaFett said:Don't know what that means, nor do I pretend to be perfect if that is what you are insinuating. Beyond that, as normal, I have no clue what you are talking about.
3 hours ago, BrobaFett said:Lol! Everyone but me should think there is 1% chance of me being scum pod, it's mafia no one knows anything. But there are people with far more than 1% suspicion, so all you have a red herring. The fact is I have done more to find scum than most of those people who are actually scummaring by that you are attempting to gain the support of. You could have picked a truly scummaring target, one that hasn't been engaging with you all day, but as it is it is fairly obvious you are just making a random stab at a target of convenience to try and get heat off you.
3 hours ago, BrobaFett said:Clean your ears then
All of Broba's posts for inspection. I'll comb through them, give on final effort post, and then head to bed.
7 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:Okay back to this. Here is the problem I was trying to get Pod to understand Sunday. It makes no sense for him to just blurt out names and offer nothing as to why he suspects folks. I ask him why he voted the way he did and he came back at me.
I watch, i read i analyze. i spot patterns, i find incosistencies. maybe it is a language thing. maybe its 'luck' as you'd call it.
i lay traps, sometimes town get in the net and start thrashing. occupational hazard.
And too some extent i throw the rulebook out of the window, because i want this little corner of the forum to be a downright fun and chatty place to hang out make jokes and tell each other to piss off, set against the background of a game of mafia.
And when its game over fist bumps all around, gg guys thanks for the lolz
Thats just IMO of course
I should have said something alot better than he assumed my gender, but it was silly o clock am over here and it was only a semi serious suspicion.
reading all that back makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, definately grabbing the wheel and driving us off course
also @Truthiness if a mob forms before iv cleared him, it would be you driving, dont try and work an angle on me =)
I'm finding the opposite. There's next to nothing there. He's been suspicious of Norell and ImpCap mainly. If anything it's reminding me of just how quiet ImpCap has been. I can't remember, did ImpCap make a soft claim?
Back at last. Long day at school.
In answer to @Madaghmire asking where I was during the GNiPs lynch, I was at work...trust me, I'd much rather play Mafia than spend an evening trying to ring up the meals of increasingly annoyed customers with a non-functional credi card machine.
Anyway, back to analysis.
11 hours ago, Caldias said:Would love to. My GNiPs vote was Day One and I did it to help ensure Truthiness used his ability to verify information, which helped town figure something out. My Day 2 vote was the second vote on Norrell and I didn't even know if it would lead to a lynch. I was looking for a defense, which sadly never came, and I was on toward the end of the day, letting everyone know that if a better prospect comes along, I would happily change my vote should a convincing case be made. Hate that Norrell flipped town, but still was better than a no-vote.
Ok, so this sounds relatively legitimate. I'm still mildly suspicious, but I don't think we should be lynching @Caldias right now, and I'd put CNinja in that slightly-suspicious-but-not-ready-to-lynch pile.
@PodRacer is still a bit of a wild card. Perhaps I missed it, but why exactly did you vote-block Visovics? That put you up a bit on my suspicion list.
As for @BrobaFett, I think it'll depend on how he responds over the next little while.
By the way...
1 minute ago, Truthiness said:I'm finding the opposite. There's next to nothing there. He's been suspicious of Norell and ImpCap mainly. If anything it's reminding me of just how quiet ImpCap has been. I can't remember, did ImpCap make a soft claim?
Yes I did, I've been hinting for a while. Let me regather the posts and give another hint.
2 minutes ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:PodRacer is still a bit of a wild card. Perhaps I missed it, but why exactly did you vote-block Visovics? That put you up a bit on my suspicion list.
Vis was too fast and too loose during the long day. Hes paying his pennance today irreguardless of faction
Just now, PodRacer said:Vis was too fast and too loose during the long day. Hes paying his pennance today irreguardless of faction
Ok...so what did you define as "fast and loose"?
By the way @Truthiness, here are my hints:
On 8/25/2017 at 2:23 PM, ImperialCaptain2017 said:Also, being absent on a frequent basis is a function of being a very busy Senator. How do you think I had time to go guest star in all those Clone Wars episodes?
And also...
On 8/24/2017 at 7:04 PM, ImperialCaptain2017 said:In the meanwhile, there's really not much to go on, so this 1.65 meter senator will hold off on voting for now.
I also said that Palpatine is not the Senator for Naboo, I am...
Now, does that give you a name? If it doesn't, go watch the prequels again (gasp!).
high post count, lots of being johnny on the spot to maintain good vibes with the town, his selection of likes. his was suspicion by a thousandcuts. I suspected theres no way i could tell you guys we should vote vis off. But its within my power to flex some muscle to show him im watching him.
(despite early promise, he doesnt seem to be enjoying his new role as hand of the king too much.)
1 minute ago, PodRacer said:high post count, lots of being johnny on the spot to maintain good vibes with the town, his selection of likes. his was suspicion by a thousandcuts. I suspected theres no way i could tell you guys we should vote vis off. But its within my power to flex some muscle to show him im watching him.
(despite early promise, he doesnt seem to be enjoying his new role as hand of the king too much.)
Hm. So do you think his Senate Guard thing was completely fake?
didnt he quote a serial number of some sort?
maybe a faulty issue compared to Roc
theres clearly a discrepancy in the trios story to be weeded out, but as long as they can all be held as accountable as possible im good to carry on fishing for 3 pointers for now. Worst case scenarios one is in scumchat or they are the scum clear as day. i doubt the latter, and they 3 will wasteloads of time if we press today.
@Rocmistro, do you have any info about your role that might help us understand what @Visovics may or may not be up to?
10 minutes ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:By the way @Truthiness, here are my hints:
And also...
I also said that Palpatine is not the Senator for Naboo, I am...
Now, does that give you a name? If it doesn't, go watch the prequels again (gasp!).
Oh God...
Oh God...
OH GOD
Only JJ and his prequel loving *** would give you such a terrible role. I don't even care if you are Scum. You poor man.
2 minutes ago, Truthiness said:Oh God...
Oh God...
OH GOD
Only JJ and his prequel loving *** would give you such a terrible role. I don't even care if you are Scum. You poor man.
Now you know how I felt when I got the PM. Somebody has to be Anakin's tragic lover, I guess...
I just feel bad he told us to go watch the prequels again.
Town havecontrol of the chat gentlemen, forthe first time so far this game. use it wisely, as well as your votes
Imp captian, that means you and I are good friends. Interesting. I wonder if our roles have a link too.
Honestly I have been open about the fact that I get a bad vibe scum vibe from you, and I don't if flavor has anything to do with who ends up being scum, but maybe that suspicion is dialed back slightly.