[MAFIA] The Wheels of Democracy ***GAME OVER***

By JJs Juggernaut, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

3 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

The toad. That is an interesting place to start. That sounds about right to me so I am partial to believe you, but is there a way you can go a little bit deeper without giving anything away since we established right away that 3 or 4 scum was likely?

Seems like a tall order.

That's all I got unfortunately... I didn't have anything better to look for

Just an FYI, I'm here, and trying to figure crap out. I think we need to start getting some role claims going for town, eh? What do you guys think. By this point in the last match we were fully out of the closet.

I really hate mass claiming. I'm not for it, but if that's what people want to do, then I imagine that I'll have no choice. In general though, I think it just makes scums lives easier as long as they can manage a halfway decent fake claim.

I feel the same now as I did before about claiming. And mads is right. Anyone who's played this game twice can claim authentic enough to pass muster.

We have two vote records and a body. We should be able to gather some info off of that before mass claims.

It's been a long day for me. I'll get some analysis done in the morning.

Hi all,

Too bad about Ovi. It's late here, so I'll get back to you all in the morning. I figure a list of remaining suspicious people is a good place to start, since our numbers are dwindling fast.

On 8/27/2017 at 3:56 PM, Visovics said:
  1. @Rocmistro (4) Podracer, Madaghmire, Norell, Caldias, Ovinomanc3r, ImperialCaptain2017

The Roc train list

On 8/25/2017 at 9:00 PM, JJs Juggernaut said:

As a grinding day of debating wear on, accusations are thrown back and forth across the senate floor. Fingers are pointed at numbers of senators, tempers flair and it soon becomes apparent that the blame must lie somewhere. Someone must be guilty for these heinous crimes!! As the session draws to a close, Mas Amedda declares that this matter is not yet resolved; the session must continue and no one may leave the senate floor. Everyone grumbles and complains at the inconvenience, but some realize this crisis is dire. A vote is called for, and as the votes are counted, it becomes clear who must pay. Senator Mon Mothma, long known as a paragon of virtue, was found guilty by majority. Perhaps she had given up on the bureaucracy and decided to take matters into her own hands? Perhaps old rivals used this as an opportunity to bring her down? It mattered not, her fate was sealed…the day after her execution for treason, a thorough investigation of all her affairs was conducted. All the investigators found were documents relating to various humanitarian aid programs and correspondence from senators promising support to get the measures passed.

@GhostofNobodyInParticular has been lynched. He was a town aligned Double-Voter.

Day 2 shall end at 9 PM US Central on Sunday the 27th of August.

13 Players left alive - 7 to hammer

Players:

  1. @TheToad
  2. @BrobaFett
  3. @CaribbeanNinja
  4. @Madaghmire
  5. @Visovics
  6. @Rocmistro
  7. @moodswing5537
  8. @ovinomanc3r
  9. @Caldias
  10. @Norell
  11. @ImperialCaptain2017
  12. @PodRacer
  13. @Truthiness

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The Nippy train

20 hours ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

Alright, long drive over with....When I said hours late, I meant it...For future reference, the day does end on the clock countdown, please refrain from posting in thread after then! Thanks!

Players:

  1. @TheToad (1) Ovinomanc3r, Truthiness
  2. @BrobaFett (0) Podracer
  3. @CaribbeanNinja
  4. @Madaghmire (1) ImperialCaptain2017
  5. @Visovics (1) Rocmistro
  6. @Rocmistro
  7. @moodswing5537 (1) Podracer, Madaghmire, Ovinomanc3r, rocmistro,
  8. @ovinomanc3r
  9. @Caldias
  10. @Norell (8) Visovics, Caldias, CaribbeanNinja, Madaghmire, Rocmistro, TheToad, Truthiness, Podracer, BrobaFett
  11. @ImperialCaptain2017
  12. @PodRacer (1) Moodswing, Truthiness
  13. @Truthiness (1) Norell

With the entire committee flustered over the execution of senator Mon Mothma, the continued session's debates reveal nothing new as the accusations become more outrageous. Tempers flair and the debate stalls. Soon someone points out that senator Onaconda Farr has been largely silent during the debates, only the instigator of this whole plot would sit quietly by, it had to be him! Before even being able to profess his innocence, the senator was hauled away. The investigation team was quicker this time, they proved his innocence...but just shortly after his execution.

@Norell has been lynched. He was a town aligned cowardly-reporter.

It is now night. It will last until 9 PM central tomorrow night, get your night actions in before then!

The norell train

On 8/25/2017 at 7:44 PM, JJs Juggernaut said:

Day 1 shall end at 9 PM US Central on Friday the 25th of August. Remember Hammer only falls on a player if they have the majority of votes when the day ends! So if you are going to be gone, get your votes in early!

14 Players left alive - 8 Votes needed on a player by end of day for hammer

Players:

  1. @TheToad (0) Podracer
  2. @BrobaFett
  3. @CaribbeanNinja
  4. @Madaghmire
  5. @Visovics (1) Pod Racer, Rocmistro
  6. @Rocmistro (3) Podracer, Madaghmire, Norell, Caldias, Ovinomanc3r, ImperialCaptain2017, Podracer
  7. @moodswing5537
  8. @GhostofNobodyInParticular (8) Madaghmire, Caribbean Ninja, TheToad, Visovics, Moodswing, Caldias, Ovinomanc3r, Madaghmire, Truthiness
  9. @ovinomanc3r
  10. @Caldias
  11. @Norell
  12. @ImperialCaptain2017 (3) Norell, Anonymous, BrobaFett, GNiPs
  13. @PodRacer (0) Visovics, Truthiness, ImperialCaptain2017
  14. @Truthiness (0) Rocmistro

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Sorry here is the nippy train

Hey all, just got back on. Ugh, that sucks. Norrell was clean and we lost Ovi, I really hate Norrell didn't get a chance to defend himself. Toad found out there are three threats to town, would that mean there are less scum than we thought? Maybe only two if there's another threat?

Yeah I also don't think we all need to start claiming yet. I think claiming might've been what got Ovi killed in the first place. I still think we're in an okay position. Okay, but not great.

Mass claiming will be a mistake, I believe Ovi was killed because scum knew there was no way to accuse him, he was Bail Organa, kinda hard to convince people to vote on him. If there are 3 scum, that's good, it's less than we thought, tho makes more likely for them to have powerful roles

Oh, and better get this out of the way, something happened to me at night and I can't vote :(

1 hour ago, Visovics said:

Oh, and better get this out of the way, something happened to me at night and I can't vote :(

Hmmm that could get nasty as we get down to the end. Assuming this is scum aligned ability? Don't see how this could benefit town.

Anyway, time for sleep. See you in the morning.

5 hours ago, Rocmistro said:

Just an FYI, I'm here, and trying to figure crap out. I think we need to start getting some role claims going for town, eh? What do you guys think. By this point in the last match we were fully out of the closet.

I agree roc

you first.

Why do people want mass claims so much?

I don't want or need everyone to claim, but I do need to understand better the interactions of the trio for peace of mind.

Sorry but JJ deserves that. I failed him.

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7 hours ago, Caldias said:

Hey all, just got back on. Ugh, that sucks. Norrell was clean and we lost Ovi, I really hate Norrell didn't get a chance to defend himself. Toad found out there are three threats to town, would that mean there are less scum than we thought? Maybe only two if there's another threat?

Okay, along with this idea, so I was trying to compile a list of who the possible scum are and compare it to the vote records. Here are my personal suspicions (those not on the list are dead, claimed, or I'm sure are town) :

BrobaFett
CaribbeanNinja
Madaghmire
*Rocmistro (not sure about him yet)
Caldias
PodRacer

Now @TheToad found the voting records, and of my list:

CNinja, Madaghmire, and Caldias voted for GNiPs, and

Caldias, CaribbeanNinja, Madaghmire, Rocmistro, Podracer, & BrobaFett voted for Norell.

Now if Toad is right about the # of scum, we're looking for three out of my list of six. It just so happens that Caldias, CNinja, and Madaghmire are on both lists. Hmm.

Anyone care to explain themselves?


20 minutes ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:

Okay, along with this idea, so I was trying to compile a list of who the possible scum are and compare it to the vote records. Here are my personal suspicions (those not on the list are dead, claimed, or I'm sure are town) :

BrobaFett
CaribbeanNinja
Madaghmire
*Rocmistro (not sure about him yet)
Caldias
PodRacer

Now @TheToad found the voting records, and of my list:

CNinja, Madaghmire, and Caldias voted for GNiPs, and

Caldias, CaribbeanNinja, Madaghmire, Rocmistro, Podracer, & BrobaFett voted for Norell.

Now if Toad is right about the # of scum, we're looking for three out of my list of six. It just so happens that Caldias, CNinja, and Madaghmire are on both lists. Hmm.

Anyone care to explain themselves?


Both were late day votes where we ran out of time to do anything else. At least I was online at end of day, making sure town got a lynch off. Where were you?

Ok everyone, posting this before my morning commute to work:

The loss of Ovin as a Gladiator (we lost Demo!) is a big blow to us. That really sucks ***. @ImperialCaptain2017I totally understand your logic on the votes, and was starting to look at that. The only thing I would add to the group is Truthiness. While I do think he's town, I don't think that is at 100%.

I'm inclined to believe Chancellor Palp (TheToad) for now that there are three scum we're hunting. The problem is I doubt highly that they would be dumb enough to go all in on the two votes we've had. I myself have made sure to be on the votes this game, because of JJ's time-frame and the fact that votes and possible scum hammers help the town.

@Visovicsyou are 100% sure on Madaghmire? I only ask because he is in the sweet-spot on both votes.

I'll check back in later if I can during work but definitely tonight.

12 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Where were you?

you gonna wait all day for an answer to that question?

maybe he was helping mood with his table, maybe hes at work? maybe hes just proving that the game can be played from a distance and still provide quality input.

also when is @Rocmistro coming out of your pocket to play?

34 minutes ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:

Okay, along with this idea, so I was trying to compile a list of who the possible scum are and compare it to the vote records. Here are my personal suspicions (those not on the list are dead, claimed, or I'm sure are town) :

BrobaFett
CaribbeanNinja
Madaghmire
*Rocmistro (not sure about him yet)
Caldias
PodRacer

Now @TheToad found the voting records, and of my list:

CNinja, Madaghmire, and Caldias voted for GNiPs, and

Caldias, CaribbeanNinja, Madaghmire, Rocmistro, Podracer, & BrobaFett voted for Norell.

Now if Toad is right about the # of scum, we're looking for three out of my list of six. It just so happens that Caldias, CNinja, and Madaghmire are on both lists. Hmm.

Anyone care to explain themselves?


Would love to. My GNiPs vote was Day One and I did it to help ensure Truthiness used his ability to verify information, which helped town figure something out. My Day 2 vote was the second vote on Norrell and I didn't even know if it would lead to a lynch. I was looking for a defense, which sadly never came, and I was on toward the end of the day, letting everyone know that if a better prospect comes along, I would happily change my vote should a convincing case be made. Hate that Norrell flipped town, but still was better than a no-vote.

I agree with Ninja's assessment that scum would be suicidal to put all of their votes on both lynches, unless it was absolutely necessary. I suggest watching the Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street." I think there is probably one more more scum on both votes, but doubtful the same, esp since I know Mad and Ninja are experienced players, and I know I'm clear, but fair enough since no one else does. And I'm almost positive there's one or more scum laughing his or her *** off and not voting or being aloof.

I'm interested in the aloof ones. Gotta get going at work, but I want to look for scumariners or no voters, if there are any.