On 8/26/2017 at 10:23 AM, moodswing5537 said:

I'd like to know how I got on your radar. Please point out to me how I have acted like scum?

Honestly, anyone who is suspicious of me please let me know how I can convince you I'm town, short of full claim.

On 8/26/2017 at 10:31 AM, moodswing5537 said:

And I don't play like cninja. I play like me, good or bad, it's all me.

On 8/26/2017 at 10:34 AM, moodswing5537 said:

I'll agree. It all looked fishy. D1 was crazy.

On 8/26/2017 at 10:36 AM, moodswing5537 said:

I can see that. I'll try to observe and be more expressive where I can. That way I'm still contributing.

Hey all, I think this represents all of the D2 posts from Mood. And hey, there he is!

I was 1/8th the lynch there. 7 other folks to look at....and I gave my reasons.

2 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Ghost would call it justice. And he was town.

1 minute ago, moodswing5537 said:

I was 1/8th the lynch there. 7 other folks to look at....and I gave my reasons.

I know. I gave mine too.

The thing is he was lynched cause his silence and despite the votes wouldn't made him talk (he was asleep and we knew it). The votes over you are based in the same reasons. I just found it funny. If you don't care about RL stuff don't bring RL stuff.

I'm trying to catch up. I told you i was busy. If I'm being singled out because I don't post when a majority of you guys do, then you all are being hypocritical.

We have a fairly weak voting record to look at and no night actions to go by, so all we have is all our collective opinions on how people are acting. I'm re-reading a majority of the posts, which takes time on my phone. Collecting evidence is a slow process....

1 minute ago, moodswing5537 said:

I'm trying to catch up. I told you i was busy. If I'm being singled out because I don't post when a majority of you guys do, then you all are being hypocritical.

We have a fairly weak voting record to look at and no night actions to go by, so all we have is all our collective opinions on how people are acting. I'm re-reading a majority of the posts, which takes time on my phone. Collecting evidence is a slow process....

Totally fair. I am also rereading but it's a long process, even on the computer. I think some were calling you out because you said you'd try and be more expressive, but didn't really post anything after that, and that was 24 hours ago. Might've just been a way to get you back in the mix.

Just now, Caldias said:

Totally fair. I am also rereading but it's a long process, even on the computer. I think some were calling you out because you said you'd try and be more expressive, but didn't really post anything after that, and that was 24 hours ago. Might've just been a way to get you back in the mix.

Totally agree. It's on me. But I'm here now, so let's work on the concerns folks have, about me and otherwise.

@JJs Juggernaut when you get a chance, can we get a vote count? I missed the page it was on in my speed reading.

Btw, I'm keeping my vote on pod. His anarchy only hurts town and helps scum.

@PodRacer

I didn't acknowledge your vote because it wasn't based on anything and is just the dumb stuff you do.

Speaking of that, @Truthiness one of the unintended consequences of no night is that we have given Pod and his accuse first troll second approach to the game two days to do his thing without any hard night evidence to counteract it.

That said, I'm not going to be petty and counter vote Pod because that is just stupid because he just always acts like that.

As an aside, I also don't think we should ever get into a position where we attack the IRL person in this game.

Refering to someone's skillset isn't saying the person they are pretending to be is bad in game, its saying they themselves are bad. And it doesn't belong here.

10 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

I know. I gave mine too.

The thing is he was lynched cause his silence and despite the votes wouldn't made him talk (he was asleep and we knew it). The votes over you are based in the same reasons. I just found it funny. If you don't care about RL stuff don't bring RL stuff.

Totally wrong on why I lynched him. I said I didn't like the vote, but the math worked against him. He was the only lynch we could get in the time we had. I sympathized with his RL stuff.

The problem I have is the time zone difference. I will never get a decent conversation with a few folks because they are in bed when I'm awake. Makes it real hard to determine how to vote.

I'm gonna take a break for a few hours. I'm a laid back guy that most of you that have met me IRL can attest to. However, I'm pretty pissed off about this.

I'll check back in a few hours.

!@#$% %$#@^&.....im moving to my pc. This phone reading is for the birds.

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

I'm gonna take a break for a few hours. I'm a laid back guy that most of you that have met me IRL can attest to. However, I'm pretty pissed off about this.

I'll check back in a few hours.

I can totally vouch for this. And agree with @BrobaFett that this game is supposed to be a fun time-passer and not a platform from which to criticize IRL people. I mean, let's be real, I'm definitely using this as a distraction to not refresh FFG's page 100 times a minute looking for Legion info.

Who voted a townie:

Me, Mad, Mood, Truth, CNinja, Caldias, Vis, Toad.

Right there should be at least 1 scum right?

I will remove myself from the list for obvious reasons. I don't blame you if you don't.

It seems Mad and Vis can be proved at night. More than that, they could be proved by Roc who was not there.

I think almost everyone agree that Truth's roles is weird as a scum one and being one-shot we have not to care too much about him being third faction.

CNinja was the first. I did the same with my scummate Biggs but at least we agree that he didn't join the wagon.

I would go with Mood, Caldias and TheToad.

TheToad is Palpatine. A risky name to claim. However building up another could be even more risky cause could be counter claimed. That is the reason why I asked. I don't have bad readings about him though.

For me the difference between Caldias and Mood is that one voted Roc when he looked as a good lynch and the other didn't (I could be wrong cause I am writing using my memory which is not totally trustworthy). This difference could be read in several ways depending on Roc's alignment and other factors.

Let's suppose Roc is townie or not scum. Then avoiding killing a scummate would have no sense. So in order to be scum, Mood would need another reason. The only one I can imagine is to mislead a bit to avoid a lynch. But he pushed for a lynch on ghost so, again, no much sense. Caldias however voted this supposed townie. He could did it as I did or he didn't care too much about who we lynched. He also looked for a lynch warned about how scummy is the no-lynch.

Maybe I dislike Caldias more than Mood actually but I want to point that I would be under the same logic that Caldias.

However I am town and I already full claimed so I give it up to you.

NOTE: all this depends on Roc's alignment.

31 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

Totally wrong on why I lynched him. I said I didn't like the vote, but the math worked against him. He was the only lynch we could get in the time we had. I sympathized with his RL stuff.

Vote record between Ghost and Roc when you chose Ghost?

I want to go back and look at the votes on GNiPs, their order in particular. CNinja was already on GNiPs, so it's the next votes I want to look at....

On 8/25/2017 at 5:34 PM, Visovics said:

Right now I'm leaning to go for Gnips, uncommon silence at most of the day, and now a vote that contradicts his own saying before officially leaving for the rest of the day? Something smells there

On 8/25/2017 at 5:39 PM, TheToad said:

I agree Vis... Nippy is being weird... has been all game

##vote GNips

We all know that a no vote benefits scum. If we look at his vote-scoot play, we see that he wanted a lynch instead of a no vote, which seeing him flip town makes sense.

Toad starts the train on GNips while we still had enough time and votes to lynch Roc (Caldias stated in a post that he would go back to Roc vote if the consensus lead that way....) and Vis followed Toad. In fact, at the time Toad voted, Imperial Capt had more votes, thanks to GNiPs and Brobba. So I think the line of Toad questioning GNiPs vote when it clearly was the more logical choice for him to make is clearly suspect. Just an observation....

9 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Vote record between Ghost and Roc when you chose Ghost?

I explained this too. Should I go find the post?

Just now, moodswing5537 said:

I explained this too. Should I go find the post?

As you changed to PC maybe it was easier now. I will check it later however. I am at the phone

I was not trying to cheat, just asked for a piece of info. Nothing to fear if it supports your point.

no problem. I feel your pain on the phone thing....

I remember stating that roc would have to be playing the absolute worst Scum ever to have made the move he did at the time. I'll go look it up to get the specifics....

@ovinomanc3r found it...

On 8/25/2017 at 4:52 PM, moodswing5537 said:

Honestly, I don't know how "new" @Rocmistro is, but to be a scum and call a vote on the one person we are gonna kill most likely in the morrow is the stupidest scum play that I have seen in this game. I mean we can talk back and forth about double bas-askwards fools gambit trick plays by scum to fool us, but there aint no day talk for scum so that is highly unlikely. Short answer is, I don't see him as scum....for that. There is a better chance that Truthi is a nuke and will kill all who attempted to vote for whomever with him. Does that role exist? I haven't checked. Probably should.

I am more concerned with how the anonymous vote popped up. Knowing now that the votes have to be 8 at end of day to lynch, I think it was a miss fire honestly, but we shouldn't ignore it. The only role I can see having it is Double Voter, and we have no way of knowing if it is scum or town. The only thing I'm most sure of at this point is that it is not @ImperialCaptain2017 since he can't vote himself.

I'm still filtering out the BS to try to get a read on some folks, so I will vote in a few.

was this what you were talking about?

3 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

@ovinomanc3r found it...

was this what you were talking about?

No. You talked about maths against Ghost.

I have a vague idea about Ghost having two votes as much when you voted him while Roc had 5 at least.

My reasons? I think that post also states them. I thought that Roc would have been either the most self-assured, bullet proof scum in any mafia game to date or town. I thought he seemed town,. I didn't have anything clearer on that in GNiPs defense, so he got my vote, based on the math.

1 minute ago, moodswing5537 said:

My reasons? I think that post also states them. I thought that Roc would have been either the most self-assured, bullet proof scum in any mafia game to date or town. I thought he seemed town,. I didn't have anything clearer on that in GNiPs defense, so he got my vote, based on the math.

Nonono XD

I must explain myself really bad. I will put in the easier way I can imagine.

How many votes had Ghost when you voted him? How many votes had Roc at the same time?

1 minute ago, moodswing5537 said:

My reasons? I think that post also states them. I thought that Roc would have been either the most self-assured, bullet proof scum in any mafia game to date or town. I thought he seemed town,. I didn't have anything clearer on that in GNiPs defense, so he got my vote, based on the math.

Nonono XD

I must explain myself really bad. I will put in the easier way I can imagine.

How many votes had Ghost when you voted him? How many votes had Roc at the same time?

Sorry.