3 minutes ago, Norell said:

Those power roles still can lynch Truthi. My problem with his ability is that I can't see any scenario where this ability could benefit the town, only when it would benefit the scum. If he has such an anti-town ability and he is town, why use it?

Lylo.

An that is the only thing that make me don't trust him completely. Where did Megamind go? "I was not sure about surviving" seems stupid. Statically at least one round. And even if he died what we would have loose is what we have now.

4 minutes ago, Norell said:

Those power roles still can lynch Truthi. My problem with his ability is that I can't see any scenario where this ability could benefit the town, only when it would benefit the scum. If he has such an anti-town ability and he is town, why use it?

Imagine town is running out of time, it's a Lylo, town goes for no vote and Truth uses it to buy more analysis time while denying scum night kill

Then why did he use his ability so early?

By the way, what "lylo" stands for?

6 minutes ago, Visovics said:

would be a horrible play to announce a connection and for Mad to draw himself in, one flips scum and the game is basically finished

You know I like work with every possibility.

Btw. Roc see you as a possible third party. And he said the role was not powerful. So or you three lead the town based on what ypu know about your roles or give us more info to see how we deal with all this ****.

1 minute ago, Norell said:

Then why did he use his ability so early?

By the way, what "lylo" stands for?

Lynch or loose.

Basically if we don't lynch the correct guy they kill and win. Skipping the night there is no kill so another chance we have.

Just now, ovinomanc3r said:

You know I like work with every possibility.

Btw. Roc see you as a possible third party. And he said the role was not powerful. So or you three lead the town based on what ypu know about your roles or give us more info to see how we deal with all this ****.

Leading town is a pretty big burden, @Rocmistro @Madaghmire will you agree on a triumvirate and try to lead town? Better choice than claiming and leading to a mass claim cos someone else ends up having ANOTHER role that interacts and we end up with a snowball

Yo @Truthiness, why did you think the best use for your ability was in D1?

Btw the closest I found:

https://epicmafia.com/role/7997

18 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Btw the closest I found:

https://epicmafia.com/role/7997

Sounds about right in our setup, although I think the best way to achieve his condition was to claim 3rd party and use the ability with a no-lynch day to minimize collateral damage to town, and as we were in even numbers, a no lynch could have come useful later in lylo situation. If truth is that, he planned it really badly

Ok, just catching up;

I cannot rule out that one of Vis/Roc is scum. At the same time though, it would IMO be a little broke if one was. There are a few moving parts in how this whole thing works, and theres not enough working for us if one is scum. I'm going to move forward as if both are town.

As to Truth, while I'm not a fan of his play, because I think a much stronger town play would have been to wait, I also doubt hes scum. Why skip n1? We probably missed a shot at some info roles, but we also preserve at least one life between phases.

I dont have time to go deeper atm. I'll try for a deep analysis post tonight.

I have no idea what leading the town means or entails. I'm not particularly experienced, so I can't say as I would be good in that role.

4 minutes ago, Rocmistro said:

I have no idea what leading the town means or entails. I'm not particularly experienced, so I can't say as I would be good in that role.

Basically means that you try to be the main pusher of the lines of investigation and as it says, you try to lead town to a consensus. It's hard to explain, anyone got better words?

3 hours ago, Visovics said:

@Truthiness since it's already used, would you mind giving information on your role?

Having real life fun. I'll try to give some quick impressions here. Vis, what you see is what I have. I'm the vice chancellor and I had a one shot filibuster. Nothing much else to tell.

2 hours ago, Rocmistro said:

Who benefitted the most (at all) from last night's sequence of events: Scum. (town -1, town no data)

Scum didn't get a night kill and they didn't get to communicate to coordinate actions. And we got a vote on the record to force voting patterns. More than any role, voting records are the best method of showing scum. The more votes we force, the better the town does. We may not feel it today, but it will help down the road.

1 hour ago, Norell said:

All in all, I think Truthi used his ability when it supported the scum the most. Now they'll have an extra dead townie by the time we learn anything. This may looks like at first as a town play but the more I think aobut it the more scummy it gets...

You night one abilities would have been nothing but a shot in the dark too. The simplee fact is despite whatever role powers we have, we have more people alive right now that we would have. This response from you seems quite scummy. Where was this reservation day one? Roc's annoyance makes sense. You, on the other hand, are reading as scum trying to piggyback on Roc's statements to get another townie killed.

1 hour ago, ovinomanc3r said:

An that is the only thing that make me don't trust him completely. Where did Megamind go? "I was not sure about surviving" seems stupid. Statically at least one round. And even if he died what we would have loose is what we have now.

I'm out having a life. My bad.

1 hour ago, Visovics said:

Yo @Truthiness, why did you think the best use for your ability was in D1?

I've explained it before. It was the least risky way to use it. I'm now expendable and the town as a second voting record before Scum get to kill anyone.

Just got done playing Arkham Horror with the wife.

Still don't know what Mad/Vis/Roc's roles are and don't want them to reveal yet, but they seem to have a mutual understanding of sorts, which is interesting, and good to know they seem to verify each other as town.

Roc raises some interesting things about Truthiness, but Truth did do exactly what he said he would:

On 8/24/2017 at 6:59 AM, Truthiness said:

So I'm gonna put this out there right now. I have something good for the town that I would like to play at the end of the day. I ask that you please allow me to be the hammer vote. As this chamber's presiding official, I will maintain the order and dignity of this august chamber, but stay out of the vote (besides my above joke vote) until such a time that we are ready to conclude today's session. Get to -1 and I will bow to the majority's will.

I still think Truthiness seems more town than scum, but my question is why would he not just say what his day ability was? Since he used it to skip the night on the first day, is there a reason not to say I can fillibuster? Is it possible that the scum might have a day ability that could block yours? Legitimately curious.

On 8/25/2017 at 8:09 AM, Truthiness said:

Nope, survival is not required. Go team town!

So, unless I'm mistaken, this means that Truthiness has fulfilled his win condition, right? If we assume he's telling the truth?

On 8/25/2017 at 3:23 PM, ImperialCaptain2017 said:

Greetings again Senators...

I'm here for now but I'll have to work tonight-I would have posted earlier, but Wave VII had me distracted (THRAWN!)

I don't either. Last time I checked, giving Pod "the feels" is not good enough to lynch someone.

Also, being absent on a frequent basis is a function of being a very busy Senator. How do you think I had time to go guest star in all those Clone Wars episodes?

I don't plan on shifting my vote, but @Rocmistro is looking kind of suspicious too. Not completely convinced though.

So for Imp Captain, I did a little bit of digging and Imp Captain seems to be after Pod for a vague reason. I mean, it's Day 1 so not much to go off of anyway, but I found it interesting. Gotta go play some games, be back later and will try to do more research.

47 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

...Scum didn't get a night kill and they didn't get to communicate to coordinate actions. And we got a vote on the record to force voting patterns. More than any role, voting records are the best method of showing scum. The more votes we force, the better the town does. We may not feel it today, but it will help down the road...

Absolutely agree Truth...

Would it had been better if we had lynched a scum... absolutely

but all in all we're better off, the scum didn't get their kill and they're still uncoordinated

The triumvirate of @Madaghmire, @Rocmistroand @Visovicsis quite curious now...

Mads cannot rule of different alignments.

Roc is pretty sure they are of different alignments.

Visovics is pretty sure they are all pro town.

Y'all have posted A LOT about this...but do I have your opinions right?

5 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

The triumvirate of @Madaghmire, @Rocmistroand @Visovicsis quite curious now...

Mads cannot rule of different alignments.

Roc is pretty sure they are of different alignments.

Visovics is pretty sure they are all pro town.

Y'all have posted A LOT about this...but do I have your opinions right?

Pretty much, yeah. I think it would be highly unlikey and unbalanced to the extreme if we were not town (maybe a third party from mad, but would still be pro-town)

1 hour ago, Caldias said:

I still think Truthiness seems more town than scum, but my question is why would he not just say what his day ability was? Since he used it to skip the night on the first day, is there a reason not to say I can fillibuster? Is it possible that the scum might have a day ability that could block yours? Legitimately curious.

If Scum knew the day wasn't going to end, I suspected they might change their behavior. I also figured we were more likely to get a no vote.

1 hour ago, Caldias said:

So, unless I'm mistaken, this means that Truthiness has fulfilled his win condition, right? If we assume he's telling the truth?

Come again? The town still has to...you know...win.

15 minutes ago, Visovics said:

Pretty much, yeah. I think it would be highly unlikey and unbalanced to the extreme if we were not town (maybe a third party from mad, but would still be pro-town)

But is it not supposed to be a crapy role?

19 hours ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

As a grinding day of debating wear on, accusations are thrown back and forth across the senate floor. Fingers are pointed at numbers of senators, tempers flair and it soon becomes apparent that the blame must lie somewhere. Someone must be guilty for these heinous crimes!! As the session draws to a close, Mas Amedda declares that this matter is not yet resolved; the session must continue and no one may leave the senate floor. Everyone grumbles and complains at the inconvenience, but some realize this crisis is dire. A vote is called for, and as the votes are counted, it becomes clear who must pay. Senator Mon Mothma, long known as a paragon of virtue, was found guilty by majority. Perhaps she had given up on the bureaucracy and decided to take matters into her own hands? Perhaps old rivals used this as an opportunity to bring her down? It mattered not, her fate was sealed…the day after her execution for treason, a thorough investigation of all her affairs was conducted. All the investigators found were documents relating to various humanitarian aid programs and correspondence from senators promising support to get the measures passed.

@GhostofNobodyInParticular has been lynched. He was a town aligned Double-Voter.

Day 2 shall end at 9 PM US Central on Sunday the 27th of August.

13 Players left alive - 7 to hammer

Players:

1. @TheToad
2. @BrobaFett
3. @CaribbeanNinja
4. @Madaghmire
5. @Visovics
6. @Rocmistro
7. @moodswing5537
8. @ovinomanc3r
9. @Caldias
10. @Norell
11. @ImperialCaptain2017
12. @PodRacer
13. @Truthiness

I bring it here cause I cannot even find it between my notifications.

9 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

But is it not supposed to be a crapy role?

By itself, it's not totally a role that is worth a doc save, but when you get 2, plus a role like mad, it has potential, and if this was under mafia control, that is some wicked and distorted balance leaning the way of the mafiosi

**** @Truthiness, you managed to put me in the corner once again!!

the best i could muster was @CaribbeanNinja calling me wishy washy.

Im seriously losing my touch!

@visovics.... how do you judge when the time is right for a mass reveal?
@TheToad.. just to confirm, unless i misunderstood... you said you had a good plan then capped nippy?

@moodswing maybe it the metric/imperial barrier coming between us??

Just now, PodRacer said:

**** @Truthiness, you managed to put me in the corner once again!!

What are you talking about?

6 minutes ago, Visovics said:

By itself, it's not totally a role that is worth a doc save, but when you get 2, plus a role like mad, it has potential, and if this was under mafia control, that is some wicked and distorted balance leaning the way of the mafiosi

Several things came to my mind.

1. When Caldias got us stuck with his "protective" role. Now we have three who say keeping them alive worth it. We will need three days to kill you all even if we got it. And you could have one of you cheated.

But whatever. The second is better:

2. I want a doc being free. If we lynch one of you and we have a doc he will be free again cause one of you doesn't worth it. It is a good plan right? Right?

3 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

What are you talking about?

unless iv misunderstood, i may as well have taken the day off investigating=) you did all the hard work with your actions. (again ;))