Just now, Rocmistro said:

So Caldias, to be sure, you are telling me 100% there is no combination of role shenanigans that could go into affect at night that would allow scum to do some alpha-strike powerplay on us, and yet obfuscate Truthi's actions/alignment? If you are telling me you can make that claim 100% than I absolutely take back everything I've said.

They definitely can't do a crazy alpha strike on us, only thing they can save Truth from is night investigations, we will know by FACTS from the hammer time whether he was telling the Truth (ba dum tssss)

Just now, moodswing5537 said:

<spills his popcorn to get to keyboard>

Oh, I got thoughts....how many you need?

Thoughts we all have, any relevant important ones?

Just now, Rocmistro said:

I understand it, yes, but only from the perspective of the certainty that Truthi is what he says.

From the perspective of the certainty that we will know if he lied.... likely.

A) whatever he did is good. Fine!

B) whatever he did is good but something goes wrong. Dammit! He will probably get himself lynched cause that. However he was trustful so we chose right when we trusted him.

C) whatever he did is not good. He get himself lynched. One threat less.

Only B is bad and even then, "trusting" him is the good move. And he doesn't seem worried about a scum move against his plan.

The certainty about him being what he says doesn't matter really.

9 minutes ago, Visovics said:

They definitely can't do a crazy alpha strike on us, only thing they can save Truth from is night investigations, we will know by FACTS from the hammer time whether he was telling the Truth (ba dum tssss)

I'll second this. Anything the scum does, @Rocmistro, will be after Truthi's action. As it is by his action that we shall decide to lynch him/trust him (cautiously), I can think of NOTHING the scum can do to stop him now, short of Day-killing him (like a Day Vigilante), blocking him (like the spice a few games back), or provoking him to do something worthy of Mod Kill. If they Day-kill him, at least we know who did it, so that's suicide. If they Block him, then if we trust him, he's town. If not, he's dead. Seeing, however, as if he doesn't deliver on his promise he's dead, it would be unlikely that he would lie about being blocked. Getting him Mod Killed is so unlikely, it nigh impossible.

4 minutes ago, Visovics said:

Thoughts we all have, any relevant important ones?

Honestly, I don't know how "new" @Rocmistro is, but to be a scum and call a vote on the one person we are gonna kill most likely in the morrow is the stupidest scum play that I have seen in this game. I mean we can talk back and forth about double bas-askwards fools gambit trick plays by scum to fool us, but there aint no day talk for scum so that is highly unlikely. Short answer is, I don't see him as scum....for that. There is a better chance that Truthi is a nuke and will kill all who attempted to vote for whomever with him. Does that role exist? I haven't checked. Probably should.

I am more concerned with how the anonymous vote popped up. Knowing now that the votes have to be 8 at end of day to lynch, I think it was a miss fire honestly, but we shouldn't ignore it. The only role I can see having it is Double Voter, and we have no way of knowing if it is scum or town. The only thing I'm most sure of at this point is that it is not @ImperialCaptain2017 since he can't vote himself.

I'm still filtering out the BS to try to get a read on some folks, so I will vote in a few.

@TheToad

Rouse him and learn the principle of his activity or inactivity .

Force him to reveal himself, so as to find out his vulnerable spots

##vote TheToad

4 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

@TheToad

Rouse him and learn the principle of his activity or inactivity .

Force him to reveal himself, so as to find out his vulnerable spots

##vote TheToad

Okay, THIS confuses me quite a bit

Vis, please dont mistake my unvote of yourself be a greenlight to take the piss.

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

Vis, please dont mistake my unvote of yourself be a greenlight to take the piss.

I am not taking the piss, a vote with 4 hours to go is something to go commited, some better insight to this would be helpful

I'm going to bed now, folks, so I'm going to cast my vote.

##vote ImperialCaptain2017

I know voting him when he has left shouldn't normally be done, especially when there's that weird anonymous vote hanging over him, but I gotta go. Roc seems not quite guilty, really, and the Vis-Pod thing isn't clear enough to me to cast a vote: Are they scum putting distance between each other? Is it a distraction? What? Dunno, so I'm ignoring it.

Good night folks! Hopefully the scum is found and lynched!

i wanna talk to the toad.

my votes gonnabe active .

If people wanna follow me..great! look at the pressure roc recieved, we need to maintain that pressure. Toad has floated.

You seem to be surfing right now

Roc balls out now

Work time.

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

i wanna talk to the toad.

my votes gonnabe active .

If people wanna follow me..great! look at the pressure roc recieved, we need to maintain that pressure. Toad has floated.

You seem to be surfing right now

Roc balls out now

Work time.

Okay, this is a good enough explanation.

11 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

@TheToad

Rouse him and learn the principle of his activity or inactivity .

Force him to reveal himself, so as to find out his vulnerable spots

##vote TheToad

I'm glad you've been doing you're homework... here's another one for you...

The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but a few calculations before hand.

You will not force me to make a hurried calculation

I reckon iv got two scum on my list of four.

what would you do?

As always D1 is a crapshoot, I've been wary of Nippy and now his vote on an absent player is increasing my suspicions...

I really like to know about the anonymous vote. Seriously. Why is still people who didn't vote yet. I don't care if they vote me. I would like to know if everyone is able to vote.

Another question: Was Roc at -1? I think is not but I would like to know it.

Roc, why you know someone can check you? You were talking based on statistics or based on your role (let's say miller)

14 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I'm going to bed now, folks, so I'm going to cast my vote.

##vote ImperialCaptain2017

I know voting him when he has left shouldn't normally be done, especially when there's that weird anonymous vote hanging over him, but I gotta go. Roc seems not quite guilty, really, and the Vis-Pod thing isn't clear enough to me to cast a vote: Are they scum putting distance between each other? Is it a distraction? What? Dunno, so I'm ignoring it.

Good night folks! Hopefully the scum is found and lynched!

So, let me get this straight. If I'm worried I'm gonna get voted, all I have to do is go to bed? Sorry, but I don't think I can let whether someone is awake or not determine if I vote for them. I appreciate we all live in different places, but use your vote based on what the person has done to prove they are scum! If this were the standard I would never be able to vote for Norell, Imperial, or GNiPs.

##unvote

@Visovics talk to me about roles that play with D1 voting.

Just now, PodRacer said:

##unvote

@Visovics talk to me about roles that play with D1 voting.

I don't know much, double voters can decide if one of their votes will be public or secret, I know the actor has to get the lynching vote otherwise he's modkilles and the priest who if he is involved in the lynch he is modkilled

So a political setup/Flavour, whats the likelyhood of therebeing half a dozen anonymous votes 2moro?

@GhostofNobodyInParticular Can you explain your vote

@PodRacer The Toad is present what do you want to talk about

There is also an executioner who can execute someone that has half enough votes for a hammer, a gladiator who can force the votes to only on him and a selected target of his, and the modifier that toad had last game that kills whoever hammered you

Just now, PodRacer said:

So a political setup/Flavour, whats the likelyhood of therebeing half a dozen anonymous votes 2moro?

Actually a vote thief is likely to be in the setup

Likelyhood of half a dozen is very small, I believe we have 1 double voter for balance reasons

Alright the speculation will get us nowhere. We're getting close and we have some people who are now in bed that won't be changing votes.