Scale and Vehicles

By schuwa, in Star Wars: Legion

6 hours ago, Hannes Solo said:

Though Armada is a game that was created with a sliding scale in mind. SSD in Armada is much more realistic than ATAT in Legion.

Whose to say it's not created on a sliding scale outside of these minis that you can actually see the person

I'm not saying that it will happen in the first couple of years but this is what they are competing with.

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So, I've read a few different statements on scale.

So I will ask here, and hope for a definitive answer. What scale is Star Wars: Legion?

Just now, Gadgetron said:

So, I've read a few different statements on scale.

So I will ask here, and hope for a definitive answer. What scale is Star Wars: Legion?

34mm is what was said at Gencon

1 minute ago, ozmodon said:

34mm is what was said at Gencon

Ok, because I've also heard 32mm tossed around.

Thank you.

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20 minutes ago, Gadgetron said:

Ok, because I've also heard 32mm tossed around.

Thank you.

Watch the team covenant video on YouTube at Gencon about this game. It's worth the time

Just don't let Luke run underneath your $75, 450 point AT-AT.

1 hour ago, TheRedSon said:

Just don't let Luke run underneath your $75, 450 point AT-AT.

A true scale AT-AT will probably cost above 165.00 dollars. That would be a safe guess.

I've been looking into other scale model kits that could work as Legion stand-ins/terrain and I ended up buying one of the old AMT TIE Fighter kits for use in my planned Imperial Hangar table. During my travels I also found these other kits that may be in scale or a little under or over-sized (but fine for the scale otherwise).

Other scale kits are:

  • 1/48 AMT Vulture Droids
  • 1/58 Revell X-Wing
  • 1/51 AMT X-Wing
  • 1/48 Bandai X-Wing
  • 1/48 SMT Y-Wing
  • 1/48 MPC/AMT TIE Interceptor (inaccurate details)
  • 1/51 AMT TIE Fighter
  • 1/48 Bandai Snowspeeder
  • 1/48 SMT Snowspeeder
  • 1/48 SMT R-41 Starchaser
  • 1/48 AMT N-1 Starfighter
  • 1/48 Zarkus Model Kits KSE-12a Dagger Fighter
  • 1/48 SMT Cloakshape Fighter
  • 1/48 SMT B-Wing (huge kit)
  • 1/48 Bandai AT-ST
  • 1/53 SMT AT-AT (another huge kit)
  • 1/48 AMT A-Wing
  • 1/48 SMT A-Wing

Some of these kits are very old, or garage kits so might be very difficult to find or expensive. Good luck!

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4 hours ago, ozmodon said:

A true scale AT-AT will probably cost above 165.00 dollars. That would be a safe guess.

You guys have no Idea. A forgeworld Titan comes between 300$ and 1.500$ so your in scale AT-AT would probably be 500$ or more.

FFG sells epic pre painted x-wing ships for sub $100 dollars. Those are pretty dang huge kits.

FFG would likely look to that price point for an unpainted 16 inch AT-AT.

Also forge world is over produced extremely niche model kits. I would never expect FFG to go that route.

A 16" At-AT would be far more than the epic X-Wing ships. For starters, my Corvette sure isn't 16"....it's roughly 12" from memory. It's also not as tall (by FAR), or as wide, and has massively less volume and surface area than an AT-AT would have.

There is absolutely no chance that a 16" AT-AT would be in the same area as the X-Wing epic ships. It's simply not going to happen for a model so much larger in all dimensions.

This is legion. It would be un assembled and un painted. It's a trumped up model kit with some nice paper work and it's likely a model kit made for easy assembly with as few parts as possible. In other words the cheapest kind of model kit.

FFG knows it can sell things that are 80-100 bucks. It knows the AT-AT will sell this game hard and they want to sell this game hard.

Fair point. Personally i dont see it happening, but who knows.

I mean granted who knows what FFG is thinking. Never in a million years would I have guessed FFG would make a 1-48th scale Star Wars goby miniatures game.

54 minutes ago, TylerTT said:

This is legion. It would be un assembled and un painted. It's a trumped up model kit with some nice paper work and it's likely a model kit made for easy assembly with as few parts as possible. In other words the cheapest kind of model kit.

FFG knows it can sell things that are 80-100 bucks. It knows the AT-AT will sell this game hard and they want to sell this game hard.

And 80-100 bucks won't do...

How could an ATAT work in this?

It would just take up the whole table surely?

56 minutes ago, TylerTT said:

I mean granted who knows what FFG is thinking. Never in a million years would I have guessed FFG would make a 1-48th scale Star Wars goby miniatures game.

Really? Seemed inevitable to most people i know after Rune Wars came out!

14 minutes ago, VAYASAN said:

How could an ATAT work in this?

It would just take up the whole table surely?

It would be awkward but not impossible. It would also likely be impractical in terms of game mechanics...but it's also something most people want to see. I suspect we're a long way off seeing AT-ATs, FFG need to know it's worth their while first.

TBH its one of the reasons I would have preferred a 15mm scale game.

5 minutes ago, VAYASAN said:

TBH its one of the reasons I would have preferred a 15mm scale game.

And even in A 15mm game a single AT-AT would probably come for 60$ to 70$. I guess some people do underestimate the size of an AT-AT.

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34 minutes ago, Hannes Solo said:

And even in A 15mm game a single AT-AT would probably come for 60$ to 70$. I guess some people do underestimate the size of an AT-AT.

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Before the inevitable argument against this price....

A 15mm Tiger Tank ranges from £5-£15

A tiger is 6.3m long, and 3m tall.

An AT-AT is 20m long, and 22.5m tall. Even if you ignore the legs (so just the body) its taller than a Tiger.

That makes the AT-AT, IGNORING THE LEGS, more than 3 times the size of a Tiger. Realistically more like 5-6x times the size when you factor in the height and width of the body. With the legs, i suspect we're talking a good 8-10X the amount of plastic.

(edited as i initially only put the Plastic Soldier Company Tiger price, which upon closer look is REALLY high).

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1 minute ago, Extropia said:

A single 15mm Tiger Tank from Plastic Soldier Company (one of the cheaper makers) is just under £20.

That price is for a box of 4.

5 minutes ago, tuco74 said:

That price is for a box of 4.

Hah, yeah. edited afterwards, i thought that seemed mental for PSC prices!

You shouldn't look at WW2 model kits for comparison, look at FFG products.
A Gozanti is about 40m long (2x length of an AT-AT) 15mm is aproximately 1:120 and the X-WingGozanti comes in 1:270.
So the X-Wing Gozanti is aproximately what the body of an in scale 15mm AT-AT would be.
Sure the Gozanti comes with two TIE-Fighters but you still have to add the Legs.

EDIT:

For the 1:48ish scale we actually have, This Guy made an AT-AT with Legos in that scale...

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