Wave 12: What we know

By AssortedNeedles, in X-Wing

4 hours ago, Marinealver said:

Other than that we have to wait for the article for more information.

With Squint-O-Vision, it looks like Fenn Rau does something for friendly ships at Range 1 in the Combat Phase, and I see an icon for something.

Oh, nvm. Apparently this is it:

When an enemy ship inside your firing arc at Range 1-3 becomes the active ship during the COmbat Phase, if you are not stressed you may receive one stress token. If you do, that ship cannot spend tokens to modify its dice when attacking this round.

Does not play well with Ezra crew but Wired is a possibility.

Edited by Lampyridae

Wired might be good. Ezra is probably not, because Fenn has probably shot before the other guy, so isn't stressed until later in the turn.

Also - if the Phantom II has an auxiliary arc, tailgunner is going to be a nasty cheap buy on it.

It looks like between Sabine's TIE fighter, the Z-95 Headhunter, the Phantom and the Phantom II, the rebels can put together an irritatingly effective list of options for a sort-of-elite-swarm of 4-5 ships.

Co-ordinate on the Phantom II is a big deal - less so for small ships, admittedly - but Fenn Rau being able to turn any one ship of your choice into Omega Leader (defensively, at least) every turn is huge . Yes, it causes you to be stressed - but don't forget that this will restrict his dial in no way whatsoever because Kanan Jarrus.

A Z-95/TIE/Attack Shuttle/Sheathipede swarm is going to be overflowing with free actions - between XX-23 Tracers Blount passing everyone and their dog target locks, Sabine's free boosts and barrel rolls, and Fenn Rau, Ahsoka and Airen Cracken all passing around 'free use' actions either late in the activation phase or early in the combat phase.

Edited by Magnus Grendel

Has anyone been able to make out what the phantom card says?

I edited it a lot to try to read it but I cant make anything out. If someone wants to give it a stab I would be greatful

Edited by Nate0026

Best guess iz the ghost can do a coordinate action at the end of activation and gets to use the special arc with its.primary.

I suppose. Thats a little underwhelming but still good. I hope it can coordinate even while its not docked because otherwise there is no reason to use anyone but AP-5

Let the guessing begin:

Flight [Assist]
Astr[omech]

You cannot a...
your...

After you e[xecute a manuever,]
if you did [not overlap any ship]
or obstacle[, and you have an]
enemy ship[ inside your firing]
arc at Ra[nge 1 you may]
perform[ a free]
barrel [roll action]

The last two lines in particular don't seem to line up, on the card the second to last line is longer than the last one. So maybe:

arc at Ra[nge 1 you may]
perform[ a free boost or]
barrel [roll action]

But then the third to last line should be visibly longer than the second to last :|

I have no idea what the condition may be (you cannot a... your...)

1 hour ago, Nate0026 said:

I suppose. Thats a little underwhelming but still good. I hope it can coordinate even while its not docked because otherwise there is no reason to use anyone but AP-5

Coordinate is right there on the action bar. This is going to be an incredible support ship even without the ghost. Take an example:

Fenn Rau, Decoy, M9-G8, Kanan Jarrus

This is 28 points - so Palpatine-in-a-shuttle money - but I think it's certainly in the same league. Essentially one other ship of your choice within range 1-2 every turn gains:

  • Omega Leader's no-modifying-attacks against one attacker of your choice
  • A free action which does not cause stress and can be from upgrades or the action bar
  • A predator-esque reroll of one attack die on each attack
  • All white moves remove stress
  • PS9 for the combat phase

Thats.....an impressive tally of bonuses.

Edited by Magnus Grendel

So Fenn's ability is interesting, I wonder how much he'll get used.

The new Phantom title makes the ghost more of a support ship. (Maul definitely will be in there.)

Dalan Oberos from scum aces is flying the new ship as well.

New non-unique astromech, Something about cannot perform attacks in something (probably Rear arc)

New EPT,(Satur...)

Cont... cyber...(netics?),

New 0 point Unique S. Astro. (Nym anyone?)

Gunboat looks radical,

Comes with cruise missiles

They confirm the advanced slam nerf in the pic as well, with the card have additional text saying "Perform...your..." Which translates in my head to "Perform a free action in your action bar."

One cannon doesn't have an attack header on it, interesting. Says something like "When... a pri(mary)... secondary cannon...(you) may re...". Does this mean recover? IS IMPERIAL SHIELD REGEN COMING???

Or am I just wanting it too much and it's just the new reload action.

48 minutes ago, SoontirFelTGE said:

So Fenn's ability is interesting, I wonder how much he'll get used.

The new Phantom title makes the ghost more of a support ship. (Maul definitely will be in there.)

Dalan Oberos from scum aces is flying the new ship as well.

New non-unique astromech, Something about cannot perform attacks in something (probably Rear arc)

New EPT,(Satur...)

Cont... cyber...(netics?),

New 0 point Unique S. Astro. (Nym anyone?)

Gunboat looks radical,

Comes with cruise missiles

They confirm the advanced slam nerf in the pic as well, with the card have additional text saying "Perform...your..." Which translates in my head to "Perform a free action in your action bar."

One cannon doesn't have an attack header on it, interesting. Says something like "When... a pri(mary)... secondary cannon...(you) may re...". Does this mean recover? IS IMPERIAL SHIELD REGEN COMING???

Or am I just wanting it too much and it's just the new reload action.

Other Forum conversations on Linked Batteries believe it says "may reload" which we *think* is the non-action verb for that action, like "Acquire a Target Lock" or "Acquire a Focus/Evade token" The idea is you can attack with a Primary or Cannon and get a free reload out of it even if you're stressed.

Which amongst other things is actually a pretty interesting buff for unique B-Wing pilots if correct. Vynder get's obvious synergy as well.

Looking at the preview fan for the gunboat, I think it's pretty clear that the OS-... title or modification card next to the xg-1 assault configuration title is pretty much the missile or torpedo version of the XG-1 title. The wording matches very well between the two, with the exception of the torpedo icon and a little bit of spacing differences. Almost definitely a title to allow SLAM into ordnance shot

3 hours ago, SoontirFelTGE said:

Cont... cyber...(netics?),

Contraband cybernetics (?)

3 hours ago, SoontirFelTGE said:

One cannon doesn't have an attack header on it, interesting. Says something like "When... a pri(mary)... secondary cannon...(you) may re...". Does this mean recover? IS IMPERIAL SHIELD REGEN COMING???

Perhaps:

"When attacking with a primary weapon or another [cannon] secondary weapon you may reroll __ attack dice."

Brobots would've loved this :). Could assist B-Wings. Depending on cost, might even make a Heavy Scyk swarm an interesting proposition.

5 minutes ago, ABXY said:

Contraband cybernetics (?)

Perhaps:

"When attacking with a primary weapon or another [cannon] secondary weapon you may reroll __ attack dice."

Brobots would've loved this :). Could assist B-Wings. Depending on cost, might even make a Heavy Scyk swarm an interesting proposition.

Sorry but BroBots are out. It says Small Ship only on it.

13 minutes ago, Deimos said:

Sorrloy but BroBots are out. It says Small Ship only on it.

Does It? Thsts rather short for the amount of text we see.

If Its small ship only, Its also a double upgrade, or something the same length..

33 minutes ago, Deimos said:

Sorry but BroBots are out. It says Small Ship only on it.

I know, that's why I said "would've".

(I. e. they would have loved it if it wasn't Small ship only )

15 minutes ago, Rakaydos said:

Does It? Thsts rather short for the amount of text we see.

If Its small ship only, Its also a double upgrade, or something the same length..

Yeah, definitely restricted.

It's not a double (slot) upgrade, so I assume you mean Dual card - in which case, I doubt it, as there is no apparent wording for flipping.

- - -

On the back of the way Synced Turret introduced a new method of generating rerolls, this cannon seems most likely to me as being another. My guess is a flat 1 or 2 dice, since there isn't enough wording to make it contingent on something else.

Does 2pts for a single dice sound likely - when considering Predator and Lone Wolf?

8 hours ago, SoontirFelTGE said:

One cannon doesn't have an attack header on it, interesting. Says something like "When... a pri(mary)... secondary cannon...(you) may re...". Does this mean recover? IS IMPERIAL SHIELD REGEN COMING???

"may receive [a token]" or "may reroll [a die]". Given the card title and the fact it's the gunboat, it's almost certainly something like 'linked battery' - you can see the text refers to a cannon secondary weapon, so presumably it allows you to use one cannon slot to essentially give yourself a TIE/D esque effect.

To be honest, I'm just mildly intrigued for using Vynder as a stupidly manoeuvrable ace:

  • Major Vynder - XG1 Assault Configuration, Veteran Instincts, Flechette Cannon, Advanced SLAM

For 32 points, you've got a PS9 ship which can SLAM every turn and still focus and fire. Yes, a flechette cannon is hardly the scariest, but the stress effect is going to make hanging on to vynder's coat-tails very hard indeed, and to be honest, most aces tend only to chip away at their opponents anyway.

Are text on Chopper-astromech is:
Action: D[iscard?]
equipped
[recover] - unsure about that.

Maybe discard some upgrade to recover shield? But there are too short text.

42 minutes ago, Magnus Grendel said:

"may receive [a token]" or "may reroll [a die]". Given the card title and the fact it's the gunboat, it's almost certainly something like 'linked battery' - you can see the text refers to a cannon secondary weapon, so presumably it allows you to use one cannon slot to essentially give yourself a TIE/D esque effect.

To be honest, I'm just mildly intrigued for using Vynder as a stupidly manoeuvrable ace:

  • Major Vynder - XG1 Assault Configuration, Veteran Instincts, Flechette Cannon, Advanced SLAM

For 32 points, you've got a PS9 ship which can SLAM every turn and still focus and fire. Yes, a flechette cannon is hardly the scariest, but the stress effect is going to make hanging on to vynder's coat-tails very hard indeed, and to be honest, most aces tend only to chip away at their opponents anyway.

I hope for a double tap. But maybe with any cannon, because it only has a 2 dice primary?

has anyone else noticed that the M12 has got 1 more shield token in its spread than on its stat-line?

Deliberate or accident? (the others have the correct number) could this be related to the 0pt R5-TK card, or do we think it might be the PS7 pilot's ability?

2 hours ago, bernh said:

Are text on Chopper-astromech is:
Action: D[iscard?]
equipped
[recover] - unsure about that.

Maybe discard some upgrade to recover shield? But there are too short text.

Since the only possible candidates with the Sheathi are crewmember upgrades, I think that it possibly means all upgrades.


I can see Chopper spacing a crewmember in order to fix something.

This would also make E-Wings slightly less useless because now you can jettison 0-point Mods and Systems upgrades.

Edited by Lampyridae

I think the unique Skill 1 pilot for the Phantom II is AP-5. It's a short name, and that looks like an A.

Yeh I'm hoping Chopper helps E and X wings somehow.

also back to the M12 - I've noticed that we are getting the Pilot Skill 6 starviper pilot Dalan Oberos as a PS 7 pilot on the Kimo with a new ability - its the first time i can remember them reusing a pilot in the same faction and changing the ability

1 hour ago, Surak said:

Yeh I'm hoping Chopper helps E and X wings somehow.

also back to the M12 - I've noticed that we are getting the Pilot Skill 6 starviper pilot Dalan Oberos as a PS 7 pilot on the Kimo with a new ability - its the first time i can remember them reusing a pilot in the same faction and changing the ability

Same firstname doesn't mean same lastname. I had the same feeling but same name and so close "waves" speaking? Nope I don't think so.

10 minutes ago, Foxtr0t said:

Same firstname doesn't mean same lastname. I had the same feeling but same name and so close "waves" speaking? Nope I don't think so.

if you look at the base token in front of the movement dial for the M12 you can just about make out the full name, and it looks the same. I'm willing to be proven wrong though as more pilots is always better :)

26 minutes ago, Surak said:

if you look at the base token in front of the movement dial for the M12 you can just about make out the full name, and it looks the same. I'm willing to be proven wrong though as more pilots is always better :)

So sad... :(

17 minutes ago, Surak said:

if you look at the base token in front of the movement dial for the M12 you can just about make out the full name, and it looks the same. I'm willing to be proven wrong though as more pilots is always better :)

If it IS Dalen, then he doesn't have the same pilot ability OR the same Pilot Skill. Which would be VERY odd. We've had pilots change their PS, and we've had them change their pilot ability, but never both.