Wave 12: What we know

By AssortedNeedles, in X-Wing

14 minutes ago, Rakaydos said:

I would speculate that the point cap for FIRING WHILE SLAMMING is 2, but there's nothing stopping you from outfitting a gunboat with HLC+autoblaster, aside from wasting points.

And if the XG1 title really does add a system, Linked batteries as a system as a Bwing or brobot buff?

It could buff both of those even if it's a cannon that boosts your primary, even more so actually as they'd still have their system free for FCS or whatnot.

I just double checked and it's definately a cannon slot. It doesnt look like it's a secondary weapon itself, though- that's an awful lot of space on the left for getting cut off on the right to show a weapon's red dice. It also definately has a cannon icon on it. Small ship only means that nobody except the gunboat has a second cannon slot... unless it adds another one.

11 minutes ago, Rakaydos said:

I just double checked and it's definately a cannon slot. It doesnt look like it's a secondary weapon itself, though- that's an awful lot of space on the left for getting cut off on the right to show a weapon's red dice. It also definately has a cannon icon on it. Small ship only means that nobody except the gunboat has a second cannon slot... unless it adds another one.

It's gotta be either that or a primary boost, FFG has never released a card with that narrow a usage before that wasn't ship specific.

1 hour ago, Vontoothskie said:

that ship is bigger than a gozanti. way too big

As I have said before, it would be the better part of valor to scale it down the Gauntlet fighter as, while with its wings it is really big, it does not behave like other epic scale ships.

Edit: It is also about 10 meters shorter than the Gozanti.

Edited by SabineKey
51 minutes ago, Rakaydos said:

I would speculate that the point cap for FIRING WHILE SLAMMING is 2, but there's nothing stopping you from outfitting a gunboat with HLC+autoblaster, aside from wasting points.

And if the XG1 title really does add a system, Linked batteries as a system as a Bwing or brobot buff?

The SLAM->still firing is something I keep forgetting about, even a TBeam is worth it if I've set up the shot right. But I don't think that the (Linked Batteries) or whatever is a system, it's next to (Jamming Beam) and looks like a Cannon symbol in the corner there.

35 minutes ago, Rakaydos said:

I just double checked and it's definately a cannon slot. It doesnt look like it's a secondary weapon itself, though- that's an awful lot of space on the left for getting cut off on the right to show a weapon's red dice. It also definately has a cannon icon on it. Small ship only means that nobody except the gunboat has a second cannon slot... unless it adds another one.

Oh and more to the point, now that I look, the (Linked Batteries) doesn't have an Attack : header.

On 8/18/2017 at 8:54 PM, Jike said:

Looks like Bullseye uses the width of the range ruler to determine its effects. Interesting.

Excellent observation dude!

23 hours ago, Tsiegtiez said:

Yeah I'm very keen to learn what the Bullseye arc entails. My guess is that if the two vertical lines in the arc both connect straight out to your target's base, you roll an additional attack die. It would make the Kimogila appropriately brutal, since it would be hard to dodge those lines at Range 1.

With Fearlessness...

1 hour ago, Tsiegtiez said:

Oh and more to the point, now that I look, the (Linked Batteries) doesn't have an Attack : header.

Zoomed in as close as I can get and I can see the words

Small Ship only

When...

a Prim

<cannon> [illegible]

may [illegible]

So, I'm thinking it's something that triggers when making a Primary weapon attack. But I couldn't tell beyond that. It doesn't seem to have the text that adds an extra Cannon upgrade icon that the XG title does. Hmm. Odd.

I've had better success with the OS-1 title

For a start that DOES have the same patterning that the XG-1 title does with regards to an extra upgrade icon. An extra Torpedo slot at least. Maybe both that and an extra Missile slot?

The second para starts similar as well with a "You may [perform attacks]" except it goes <torpedo> and ...

Then the text seems to diverge. It's got me wondering if it just means you can use Torps and Missiles when slamming. Which if Unguideds are on the table would be very interesting indeed. But it does look like it has a specific criteria (target locked targets only?)

Hmm.

Edited by Mward1984
5 minutes ago, Mward1984 said:

Zoomed in as close as I can get and I can see the words

Small Ship only

When...

a Prim

<cannon> [illegible]

may [illegible]

So, I'm thinking it's something that triggers when making a Primary weapon attack. But I couldn't tell beyond that. It doesn't seem to have the text that adds an extra Cannon upgrade icon that the XG title does. Hmm. Odd.

When you hit with an attack from

a Primary weapon, attack with a

<ca> secondary weapon. You

may equip an additional <ca> upgrade.

1 hour ago, Mward1984 said:

Zoomed in as close as I can get and I can see the words

Small Ship only

When...

a Prim

<cannon> [illegible]

may [illegible]

So, I'm thinking it's something that triggers when making a Primary weapon attack. But I couldn't tell beyond that. It doesn't seem to have the text that adds an extra Cannon upgrade icon that the XG title does. Hmm. Odd.

I've had better success with the OS-1 title

For a start that DOES have the same patterning that the XG-1 title does with regards to an extra upgrade icon. An extra Torpedo slot at least. Maybe both that and an extra Missile slot?

The second para starts similar as well with a "You may [perform attacks]" except it goes <torpedo> and ...

Then the text seems to diverge. It's got me wondering if it just means you can use Torps and Missiles when slamming. Which if Unguideds are on the table would be very interesting indeed. But it does look like it has a specific criteria (target locked targets only?)

Hmm.

The Gunboat can't take Unguided Rockets though?

11 minutes ago, Goseki1 said:

The Gunboat can't take Unguided Rockets though?

It could if it got an extra Missile and Torp Slot from the OS1 title.

Guys guys. Fenn Rau with Wired, Hera, and stressbot!

I call it and its variants Stressbugs, since its a Genoisan ship

Edited by MegaSilver
13 minutes ago, MegaSilver said:

Guys guys. Fenn Rau with Wired, Hera, and stressbot!

I call it and its variants Stressbugs, since its a Genoisan ship

That'd probably be better on one of the other pilots as it works directly counter to Fenn's ability.

Just now, Princezilla said:

That'd probably be better on one of the other pilots as it works directly counter to Fenn's ability.

Whoops! Didnt notice you had to be unstressed.

10 minutes ago, MegaSilver said:

Whoops! Didnt notice you had to be unstressed.

If this Ezra has the same ability as the other one he'd love the Hera+stressbot combo and wouldn't even need wired except maybe for a bit of offence.

Edited by Princezilla

So if the Gunboat title lets it have 2 cannon slots and a System slot and it can fire 2 point costing cannons even with a weapons disabled token,

Major Vyndier: PTL, Title, Fire Control System, Flechette Cannon, Heavy Laser Cannon, Adv Slam: 43 pts

A bit expensive, but has a lot of dakka. First engagement you get a rng3 shot with the heavy laser cannon with both a focus and a target lock. Next turn, you slam away. Shooting the Flechette cannon if you have a shot. You can PtL off the Adv Slam action to get a focus for defense.

Alternately, you go for a missile/torpedo and cannon loadout

Major Vyndier: PTL, Title, Fire Control System, Flechette Cannon, Proton Torpedoes. Adv Slam: 40 pts

Major Vyndier: PTL, Title, Fire Control System, Flechette Cannon, Concussion Missiles, Adv Slam: 40 pts

12 hours ago, Rakaydos said:

My best "squint + line length match"

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I'm thinking they removed the circles around the cannon and (other upgrade) icon. I'm not sure about the system, but I couldnt quite get "Lose missile slot" or "Lose torpedo/missile slots" to parse.

The second part is line matching what redit is apparently saying the ability is. No guarentee there, but the blobs fit, more or less.

I no longer thing this upgrade grants a system slot.

I wasnt happy with how some of the words lined up (particularly that "suffering from" and redid the card. I think this new one fits much better.

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("even while" is probably "even when", but same thing.

Guys, I dont link Linked battery is JUST small ship only. The words dont line up right.

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I'm looking at Kimogila's fan, and whilst I can't make a single thing out of small text. It DOES have two copies of that one EPT that the Gunboat has, and reveals a bit more of it's name.

Satu[ration]

Sa...

I'm guessing "Salvo".

The next version along reavels the words "After" and a Torpedo icon on the next line. So, possibly an EPT that let's you ripple fire Torpedo's? But how if you're spending a Target Lock each ti... oh god. This is it. This is the card that removes the spend part of the [target lock] cost that all munitions apart from Homers, Harpoons and Cruisers have isn't it?

Redline Status If True: MEGADEAD.

22 minutes ago, Mward1984 said:

I'm looking at Kimogila's fan, and whilst I can't make a single thing out of small text. It DOES have two copies of that one EPT that the Gunboat has, and reveals a bit more of it's name.

Satu[ration]

Sa...

I'm guessing "Salvo".

The next version along reavels the words "After" and a Torpedo icon on the next line. So, possibly an EPT that let's you ripple fire Torpedo's? But how if you're spending a Target Lock each ti... oh god. This is it. This is the card that removes the spend part of the [target lock] cost that all munitions apart from Homers, Harpoons and Cruisers have isn't it?

Redline Status If True: MEGADEAD.

don't you mean overpriced bruiser given it would him the ability to reroll both fires.... ofc unless there's restrictions.....

Edit: forgot he didn't have an ept, carry on.... :unsure:

Edited by Ralgon

Other than that we have to wait for the article for more information.

Are we sure that the XG-1 card is "cost 2 or less"?

3 points would make more sense.

18 minutes ago, BadMotivator said:

Are we sure that the XG-1 card is "cost 2 or less"?

3 points would make more sense.

It's no doubt intended for the jammer and tractor beams, which wernt considered weapons as far as SLAM was concerend, in the original games. Flechette manages to slip in because it costs less than ion, which explicitly could NOT be fired while under SLAM.

We can just make out a top corner on the right, and a bottom corner of the left, of the number. Pretty sure that means either 0, 8, or 2, and 2 makes the most sence.

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Edited by Rakaydos

Also, someone want to check me here? I'm pretty sure this confirms the FAQ.

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