20 minutes ago, The Rebel Fleet said:

My money is on new Starter Set and maybe even a revamp of the rules, Armada 2.0!

Maybe that is an oppertunity to release new factions, like Republic and Separatists? I would love that.

2 hours ago, BrobaFett said:

The WOTC minis At at was 18 long and 14 high and the scale of figs was larger than IA. I think this is overreaction.

Somehow that is a manageable size?

I'm not too bothered about Clone Wars stuff in Armada. I'd love to see more in X-Wing cos I love some of the fighter and shuttle sized ship design, but not really any of the capital ships.

And come on guys, get real. The Executor would be not just too big but way too powerful for Armada. Even drastically scaled down it would be worth 10 ISDs.

I suspect the SSD will be around 10-12" long (14 max), a bit wider than scale would say it should be (so as not to be out-spanned by the ISD), six shields front and sides, five rear; two brace, two redirect, two contain; ten dice front, eight sides, five rear; 14 hull, 250-300 points.

And yes, I think that's what the announcement will be.

Surprised no one has thought really big (apologies if someone did). It could be a couple Death Star mats (one half on the playing field and one entirely DS surface and Imperials could purchase emplacements as part of their fleet.

Not likely, and seems more suited to X-Wing, but if we're thinking big...

but yeah, if I was placing bets

Episode 7-8 cap ships

Scarif/Rebels releases

SSD

then my favorite: Clone Wars (oh my wallet if they do this)

I know it's normally not nice to say "I don't want this in the game because I don't like it", but in this case it think it might actually be reasonable. For how many people would it genuinely spoil the game if your opponent fields an SSD that bares no relation in size and power to what it should?

8 minutes ago, Lobokai said:

then my favorite: Clone Wars (oh my wallet if they do this)

Yes! We should petition them to do this.

I need me my Separatists.

19 minutes ago, Admiral Theia said:

I suspect the ISD will be around 10-12" long (14 max), a bit wider than scale would say it should be (so as not to be out-spanned by the ISD), six shields front and sides, five rear; two brace, two redirect, two contain; ten dice front, eight sides, five rear; 14 hull, 250-300 points.

And yes, I think that's what the announcement will be.

I trust you mean 'SSD', since we already have the ISD. Funnily enough, the Armada ISD is also a bit shorter/wider than it's supposed to be.

Since we know that they have playtested the SSD, we know that FFG does not think that the SSD would be out-of-bounds unthinkable for them to consider producing one. It's just a matter of what the playtesters collectively told them, and if they then decided to fix whatever might have been wrong with it, or if it was at all playable.

17 minutes ago, mazz0 said:

I know it's normally not nice to say "I don't want this in the game because I don't like it", but in this case it think it might actually be reasonable. For how many people would it genuinely spoil the game if your opponent fields an SSD that bares no relation in size and power to what it should?

People who take the game way more seriously than those I enjoy playing against :-). It's a game . They aren't ships, they're tokens, representations. Scale really isn't all that important, or at least shouldn't be.

3 minutes ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:

I trust you mean 'SSD', since we already have the ISD. Funnily enough, the Armada ISD is also a bit shorter/wider than it's supposed to be.

Since we know that they have playtested the SSD, we know that FFG does not think that the SSD would be out-of-bounds unthinkable for them to consider producing one. It's just a matter of what the playtesters collectively told them, and if they then decided to fix whatever might have been wrong with it, or if it was at all playable.

Yeah. Oops.

7 minutes ago, Admiral Theia said:

People who take the game way more seriously than those I enjoy playing against :-). It's a game . They aren't ships, they're tokens, representations. Scale really isn't all that important, or at least shouldn't be.

Calling this great manifestation of STAR WARS just a game ???!!!!

BURN THE WITCH!

24 minutes ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:

Calling this great manifestation of STAR WARS just a game ???!!!!

BURN THE WITCH!

You can't, for you see I have developed a defense against witch charges!

I've made myself heavier than any duck! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

4 hours ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:

The SW galaxy has millions of planets, so I'm not sure the all caps really provides much of a point. Why can Scum not have those levels of resources?

I think it's a mistake to think of Scum syndicates as analogous to the small non-state actors that we have in our world, where cartels such as Los Zetas are at the upper end of the scale. The Empire is a hegemonic political entity, which doesn't care about extending the rule of law to the outskirts of galactic civilization, because it is not all that committed to the rule of law. There is a lot of room for semi-rogue regimes that have a modus operandi with the Imperial government.

Take Hutt Space, for instance: are you suggesting that the Hutts are 1) not a scum faction, AND 2) not capable of massing fleets? Why not?? They govern a gigantic swathe of galactic territory (Hutt Space), and they have many more areas outside of that (e.g. Tatooine) under their sway.

The caps was more to display an exaggeration of child-like awe, rather than to make a point. While the galaxy does have indeed that many planets, most scum don't own the planets, nor do they get most of the revenue.

Either way, the main thing is that even when they can afford it, it's often economically unviable. Even the Hutts didn't possess dedicated warships. They bought and sold them, but never kept them. That's really the main issue. Affording them, not so much. Wanting them, that's something else entirely. Few scum WANT warships , for as I said before, it doesn't fit the business model. Now, your point about rogue groups who span several planets has value. There likely are various system-states, so to speak, who possess a small military and do not belong to either the Empire or the Rebellion. However you cannot consider them scum. They would be legitimate states. And we'd need some canon mentions of them before they can be introduced in Armada, else FFG would be forced to make up a faction and make up a bunch of ship designs - nobody would be able to relate to it.

So to reiterate, there are two groups:

Scum, and system states.

For the former, it's economically unviable to own warships, as the businesses aren't oriented to the type of activities that would warrant such vessels, though they may be able to afford them. Therefore, I don't think we should see such factions in Armada. For the latter, we know of none. It may be viable for Armada, for capital ships do provide a service to them, but we know of none, and it seems unlikely that the Empire would have suffered their existence.

Maybe I'm a little late to the party but here is a graph I put together. I did a best fit curve based on the existing ships, excluding wave 6. ( I'm getting there, I'm getting there...) Then placed the SSD and Resurgent on there. Based on the existing scale SSD would be 4.98 feet.

Here is the graph with all the ships labeled. I'll try to find some time to add the two new ships soon

Maybe with the Clone Wars now being in the new battlefront game FFG are deciding to give us the Clone Wars.

Guys, guys!!!!

Just came over from the X-Wing thread - by now some of you must have heard the crazy celebrations going on over there!

Remember the scene from the old 1997 edition RotJ celebrations on Coruscant?

Just like that.

I don't know, FFG has continued to keep me gobsmacked...if they KNOW we want something, there's a HUGE demand for it, my god, somehow FFG makes it happen!

Can I say, I would NOT be surprised if FFG's "Something big is coming" is SW20 Executor Class Super Star Destroyer!

I had extreme reservations about it previously, size and all - but if FFG releases it, I will definitely buy it. I want to show FFG my thanks for listening to their customers!

Thank you FFG. Thank you.

5 hours ago, Admiral Theia said:

People who take the game way more seriously than those I enjoy playing against :-). It's a game . They aren't ships, they're tokens, representations. Scale really isn't all that important, or at least shouldn't be.

But they're not just tokens or playing pieces though - they're Star Wars toys, that's why a lot of people play the game (which is, I suspect, why they made the game). You don't have to take it seriously to be irked by them being totally wrong. I'm not saying one way or the other whether I think they should avoid making the SSD to avoid annoying people, I sympathise with both sides of the argument.

Heh, they could have a special rule for tournaments: if your list contains an SSD you have to bring another list that doesn't, which your opponent can require you to use (obviously in casual games you can agree it amongst yourselves).

2 hours ago, Rune Taq said:

Maybe I'm a little late to the party but here is a graph I put together. I did a best fit curve based on the existing ships, excluding wave 6. ( I'm getting there, I'm getting there...) Then placed the SSD and Resurgent on there. Is based on the existing scale SSD would be just under 4.98 feet.

How big would the Resurgent be? 33cm - did I do that right?

13 hours ago, Kiwi Rat said:

Hmm... something big...

SSD

Clone Wars Starter set

New trilogy Starter set

2nd Campaign set

Rebel Starter set

Imperial Starter set

Third Faction starter set.

More squadron packs

More ships

Space stations/Shield gate models (looking at you Golan )

A campaign tie in rule set, that combines Armada, X-wing, IA/Legion and Rebellion into one massive Galactic conflict game.

Oh... the options are many, please tell what other big things I may have missed

The Death Star

5 hours ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:

Funnily enough, the Armada ISD is also a bit shorter/wider than it's supposed to be.

Actually it's not. The Armada ISD is properly proportioned. I once believe d as you do but there was a huge debate thread a year or so ago that proved beyond doubt that the ISD model in Armada is perfectly perportioned in comparison to the filming models used in ESB.

This is probably going to turn out poorly for me, since I *do not* want to see an SSD or a Scum faction or Clone Wars stuff.

I was hoping for a new campaign, the MC75, the gunship, and Admirals Raddus and Thrawn.

1 hour ago, mazz0 said:

How big would the Resurgent be? 33cm - did I do that right?

It would be the actual length divided by the scale so 2916/8700=.335m=1.1feet

1 hour ago, mazz0 said:

How big would the Resurgent be? 33cm - did I do that right?

That's awesome, great job.

4 hours ago, mazz0 said:

But they're not just tokens or playing pieces though - they're Star Wars toys, that's why a lot of people play the game (which is, I suspect, why they made the game). You don't have to take it seriously to be irked by them being totally wrong. I'm not saying one way or the other whether I think they should avoid making the SSD to avoid annoying people, I sympathise with both sides of the argument.

Heh, they could have a special rule for tournaments: if your list contains an SSD you have to bring another list that doesn't, which your opponent can require you to use (obviously in casual games you can agree it amongst yourselves).

They are toys indeed, toys I enjoy playing with very much. I wasn't actually looking to judge people who do take it that seriously (serious in a different way than competitive, but rather that it must be some vague notion of "perfect"), but just my preference on those I play with casually :-)