5 hours ago, Visovics said:

And added a few cannons and turbolasers, also extended the bridge, but yeah, pretty much a grav-less Int in terms of design, although, in the same way Imperials were big triangles, the first order seem to have a common tendency to do flattened gigantic pizza slices. Is the Mega Star Destroyer going to be like that too?

If the mega star destroyer is like that I might cry.

I swear though, if this film just parodies Empire Strikes Back it might be worse than the prequels. You can't replace what is already perfect.

Well now I am a little confused here.

Are we in agreement that the "something big" is either a SSD or is a new starter with new trillogy stuff?

5 minutes ago, Noosh said:

Well now I am a little confused here.

Are we in agreement that the "something big" is either a SSD or is a new starter with new trillogy stuff?

We are in agreement that it's at least something...

2 minutes ago, Visovics said:

We are in agreement that it's at least something...

Fair enough at least it's not....... A big disappointment.

I regret nothing!

I think we are getting the Resurgent class and the new dreadnought, along with the Resistance Bomber and the Starhawk.

7 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:

I think we are getting the Resurgent class and the new dreadnought, along with the Resistance Bomber and the Starhawk.

I wouldn't count on that...

the Resurgent, and Mandatory IV are bigger than the ISD, and Easily in Epic Territory. At least $60-$100 a piece. The Starhawk is at least ISD sized, so that would be $50+. The resistance bombers are a maybe, but I really doubt we will see a $200+ wave. FFG knows our wallets can't take a price tag of that magnitude.

25 minutes ago, Visovics said:

We are in agreement that it's at least something...

Something...

Big.

I'm still thinking SSD.

Resurgent is over double the length of an ISD and the new Dreadnought is over double that. No way that's happening.

Just now, Battlefleet 01 Studios said:

I'm still thinking SSD.

Resurgent is over double the length of an ISD and the new Dreadnought is over double that. No way that's happening.

I think that is very possible.

Maybe there will be an SSD in The Last Jedi.

they will show a shot of it for reference, then have it eclipsed by Snokes "Mega Destroyer."

What is the point of this ship if there is just gonna be another mega one? Only for planetary bombardment? That feels lame. We know we will see a fleet of Resurgent class ships. Maybe Snoke's ship is leading the task force with one or two of these guys and a bunch of Resugents. That might be okay. Still don't like the ship though.

Or maybe we've got it all wrong and it's the Republic that has a Super Star Destroyer.

Plot twist.

My money is on Lusankya over the Flat Pizza Dreadnought

I bet it is an SSD with the following

Admiral Piett (regular commander)

Emperor Palpatine (epic play commander)

With title cards as follows:

Executor

Eclipse

Ravager

On 8/22/2017 at 10:31 AM, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I agree that the Rebels had no real hope, but they had a GOAL. Their purpose was to fight, not do other business. Scum, on the other hand, weren't geared toward war, and thus fighting was not their purpose.

So while you everything you say is valid, I feel like you are overlooking purpose. The Rebellion was on par with most scum groups, and likely even less able to equip itself than some. But it existed to fight the Empire, whereas the scum didn't. They existed to rob unarmed civilians, sell spice, smuggle, etc.

And sure, it's likely that various skirmishes existed between the Empire and the Scum. But in a galaxy-wide war, such things are so irrelevant , such minor conflicts that they hardly bear mentioning. The Empire didn't go into Hutt Space because they had cut a deal with them - no disrupting Imperial Rule elsewhere, they get to keep their autonomy. They weren't scared of them.

So skirmishes happen, I totally agree. But are skirmishes really justification enough to involve a third party in the context of a galaxy-wide war for the fate of the galaxy? I, personally, think not. And that's my point.

Respectfully I disagree. Targeting supply convoys and merchant shipping changes the balance of power in many wars. The rebels conducted pirate-style attacks, against imperial forces, and I dont see why actual space pirates wouldnt have done the same if the material was worth the risk.

And in a galaxy wide war one might think a rebellion with only 60 ships was irrelevant, but here they are, an entire faction of their own.

So yes, those skirmishes must be important. The rebellion did holding actions, hit and run tactics, and alot of skirmishes. Major fleet battles were incredibly rare. And Armada, with its 4-5 capital ships on average per side is really just a large skirmish.

As such, third parties, scum for lack of a better word, are entirely practical and if done well entirely fun.

6 minutes ago, Grey Mage said:

As such, third parties, scum for lack of a better word, are entirely practical and if done well entirely fun.

Yea, can't wait for Jump Masters too get a buff and take over Armada...

1 minute ago, Undeadguy said:

Yea, can't wait for Jump Masters too get a buff and take over Armada...

I mean, theyre already in most imperial fleets with a strong squadron presence so....

7 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

I think we are getting the Resurgent class and the new dreadnought, along with the Resistance Bomber and the Starhawk.

Resurgent and Starhawk first perhaps.

The Resistance Bomber would be a flotilla most likely.

Mind, a two Epic release kicked off the range for X-Wing. Both the Transport and Corvette were announced at the same time if I remember correctly.

9 minutes ago, Grey Mage said:

I mean, theyre already in most imperial fleets with a strong squadron presence so....

I disagree. I haven't seen a JM since I last ran them in wave 4. Dengar is used sometimes, but he's also an incredible ace.

A lot of the things mentioned certainly apply to the "something big" clause.

But most of them are still understandably dubious for the "for Armada" clause.

4 minutes ago, Undeadguy said:

I disagree. I haven't seen a JM since I last ran them in wave 4. Dengar is used sometimes, but he's also an incredible ace.

Why pay for intel when you could just blow up the other guy's squadrons instead?

Just now, Ardaedhel said:

Why pay for intel when you could just blow up the other guy's squadrons instead?

Exactly. Sloane really shook up the squad game.

1 minute ago, Ardaedhel said:

Why pay for intel when you could just blow up the other guy's squadrons instead?

It is one of the few counters to a Valen Decimator ball.

1 minute ago, TallGiraffe said:

It is one of the few counters to a Valen Decimator ball.

Alternatively: just kill them all and run off with 134 points of hilariously easy points.

8 minutes ago, Grey Mage said:

Respectfully I disagree. Targeting supply convoys and merchant shipping changes the balance of power in many wars. The rebels conducted pirate-style attacks, against imperial forces, and I dont see why actual space pirates wouldnt have done the same if the material was worth the risk.

I agree that scum probably raided convoys. But as the were generally well defended, I don't think they did it often enough, nor with enough vessels, to warant their inclusion in Armada.

10 minutes ago, Grey Mage said:

And in a galaxy wide war one might think a rebellion with only 60 ships was irrelevant, but here they are, an entire faction of their own.

They had more than 60 ships. And the fact that their GOAL was war, it makes sense to include them. And besides, you can't have a game set in the GCW without them you can have one without Scum.

11 minutes ago, Grey Mage said:

So yes, those skirmishes must be important. The rebellion did holding actions, hit and run tactics, and alot of skirmishes. Major fleet battles were incredibly rare. And Armada, with its 4-5 capital ships on average per side is really just a large skirmish.

As such, third parties, scum for lack of a better word, are entirely practical and if done well entirely fun.

Actually, 4-5 Capital ships a side is a fairly average Star Wars battle, and the Empire pretty much used Arqs to keep pirates at bay, so they couldn't have been that much of a threat.

1 hour ago, Undeadguy said:

Yea, can't wait for Jump Masters too get a buff and take over Armada...

I have nightmares like this

So when is this 'something big' going to be revealed?