Play the time can I override prize possession

2 minutes ago, ozmodon said:

Play the time can I override prize possession

Make a coherent sentence.

It's an upgrade, don't see why you couldn't override it.

You cannot play Prized Possession if you already have one out, even if you are over writing the existing one in Play.

In order to discard an upgrade to be overwritten you first have to play the upgrade you are going to replace it with in order to start the process, and that would mean there are two of them in play at the same time.

The only way to play the second Prized Possession is to first overwrite it with something else, then once it is in the discard pile you can play it again.

The rule states:

A month ago I mailed Lukas with these question:

Rules Question:
Hi! We are having some trouble determining if an unique upgrade (such as Luke's Lightsaber) can be discarded to play another copy of the same unique upgrade for free (to trigger an ability). On one hand, discarding an upgrade to lower the cost of another is a "before" effect, so the two copies are never in play at the same time. On the other hand, the clarification of the Padawan (pg 24) says that the upgrade doesn't leave play until the other one has been played. And on a third hand, we don't even know if declaring your intention to play an upgrade counts toward the rule of "can't play an uniqe upgrade if another copy of it is in play" or not. Thank you very much.

On 8/12/2017 at 4:26 PM, Lusiphur05 said:

You cannot play Prized Possession if you already have one out, even if you are over writing the existing one in Play.

In order to discard an upgrade to be overwritten you first have to play the upgrade you are going to replace it with in order to start the process, and that would mean there are two of them in play at the same time.

The only way to play the second Prized Possession is to first overwrite it with something else, then once it is in the discard pile you can play it again.

The FAQ states that you cannot over ride prized possession with another.

That being said by your logic of first being played suggest you would have to pay for it then receive a refund from the other and that just isn't the case.

I truly hope that they fix this ruling in the future. It seems completely legitimate as it with any other trading out equipment, you simply put the dice on the card back on the player's card then place the new card and take their die from the pool. We saw them flip on other cards before and I don't see how doing it that way makes it any different than any other equipment trade out.

There is no need for clarification, it is quite clearly written in the RRG page 3:

UNIQUENESS

Each card is either unique or non-unique. Unique cards are

marked by a diamond (*) before their titles. All other cards

are non-unique.

A player cannot have more than one copy of a unique card

in play at the same time. There cannot be more than one

copy of a unique character on a team, and a player cannot

play a unique support or unique upgrade if they already have

another copy of that card in play.

(Emphasis mine)

This is not MTG where you can play a duplicate legendary or planeswalker and discard the other one already in play, the games rules specifically forbid playing a second copy of a unique if you already have one in play.

1 hour ago, Mace Windu said:

There is no need for clarification, it is quite clearly written in the RRG page 3:

UNIQUENESS

Each card is either unique or non-unique. Unique cards are

marked by a diamond (*) before their titles. All other cards

are non-unique.

A player cannot have more than one copy of a unique card

in play at the same time. There cannot be more than one

copy of a unique character on a team, and a player cannot

play a unique support or unique upgrade if they already have

another copy of that card in play.

(Emphasis mine)

This is not MTG where you can play a duplicate legendary or planeswalker and discard the other one already in play, the games rules specifically forbid playing a second copy of a unique if you already have one in play.

I'm not playing two at the same time I'm cashing one in for another just like all other upgrades. By your thoughts you could not trade up if you had 3 upgrades, because you would have to have 4 before dropping back to three. That simply doesn't make sense.

3 minutes ago, ozmodon said:

I'm not playing two at the same time I'm cashing one in for another just like all other upgrades. By your thoughts you could not trade up if you had 3 upgrades, because you would have to have 4 before dropping back to three. That simply doesn't make sense.

It has absolutely nothing to do with trying to overwrite an existing prized possession, its a base rule of the game that you cannot play a unique card if you already have 1 in play. here is the relevant text again:

a player cannot play a unique support or unique upgrade if they already have another copy of that card in play.

I don't quite see how this is not absolutely crystal clear to understand, but even if you don't that fine, just know that your still not allowed to overwrite prized possession with another prized possession.

"Before a player plays a card, they should first check to see if there are any play restrictions on the card. If there are, and those conditions are not met, then the card cannot be played."

In this case, the restriction is that no other unique copy can already be in play as noted above.

And what may be confusing you is that the rules don't say you can't play an upgrade if you already have three, they say if you have more then 3 on a character the owner has to then discard down to three, however, a before condition exists that you can trigger to reduce the cost of an upgrade by discarding another one already in play on that character.

So the steps for playing a card should look like this:

Step 1: Check for restrictions while card is still in hand (Blue character only, another unique card in play, etc)

Step 2: Play the card placing it by the character you want to attach it to.

Step 3: Pay the resource cost. (Before trigger exists here to reduce the cost of the upgrade by discarding another upgrade in play)

Step 4: If more then 3 upgrades exist on the character, discard down to three, owners choice.

15 hours ago, ozmodon said:

I'm not playing two at the same time I'm cashing one in for another just like all other upgrades. By your thoughts you could not trade up if you had 3 upgrades, because you would have to have 4 before dropping back to three. That simply doesn't make sense.

This is exactly what happens. You can actually end up with 4 upgrades, you just immediately choose one to discard. There is no rule that prevents you from playing a fourth upgrade on a character.

3 hours ago, Lusiphur05 said:

"Before a player plays a card, they should first check to see if there are any play restrictions on the card. If there are, and those conditions are not met, then the card cannot be played."

In this case, the restriction is that no other unique copy can already be in play as noted above.

Uniqueness is not a play restriction.

Page 19: Play restrictions sometimes appear on a card and are marked by the word “only.” A player cannot play the card unless the play restriction is met.

This matters for cards like Finn which bypass play restrictions.