18 minutes ago, TroutNinja said:Perfection is immaterial, I'd just like some actual competence. Not holding my breath though, it seems to me that the Lion are being set up to be villains and bullies which says to me that they will lose.
I don't think they've quite risen to level of 'villain ' yet.
I wouldn't be surprised if it ends in a 'break even situation' rather than a loss,
42 minutes ago, Kitsu Seinosuke said:"Best army in the world" is relative. If we're what passes for brilliant strategists, then I wonder what the other clans are like?
Dunno, but the best thing about repeating something so many times people will believe it's true, even if it isn't. This I suspect is how the Lion have convinced Rokugan they are brilliant strategists.
1 hour ago, TroutNinja said:Perfection is immaterial, I'd just like some actual competence. Not holding my breath though, it seems to me that the Lion are being set up to be villains and bullies which says to me that they will lose.
When I played the RPG I was brand new. But another player was a haunted Matsu and she was amazing.
I really want to see some likable Matsu.
1 hour ago, RandomJC said:Dunno, but the best thing about repeating something so many times people will believe it's true, even if it isn't. This I suspect is how the Lion have convinced Rokugan they are brilliant strategists.
You realize, now that you've said that the Unicorn are going to get beat.??
9 minutes ago, Kuni Katsuyoshi said:You realize, now that you've said that the Unicorn are going to get beat.??
Perhaps. But worse things have happened.
6 minutes ago, RandomJC said:Perhaps. But worse things have happened.
The Lion once killed two daimyo and burned Shiro Moto to the ground. You mean worse like that?
2 minutes ago, Kuni Katsuyoshi said:The Lion once killed two daimyo and burned Shiro Moto to the ground. You mean worse like that?
Yeah. Worse, like failing to stop a Gaijin Horde from breaking through your wall.
Just now, RandomJC said:Yeah. Worse, like failing to stop a Gaijin Horde from breaking through your wall.
If you mean you guys, that's fate ?
If you mean the Destroyers, they were driving the shadowlands horde in front of them so it was a double shot. ......nobody's perfect.??
On 8/15/2017 at 8:31 AM, Kitsu Seinosuke said:"Best army in the world" is relative. If we're what passes for brilliant strategists, then I wonder what the other clans are like?
Well, last go-around, the Phoenix started not losing battles to the Unicorn when they started letting the militarily-trained and unit-commanding Shiba call the timing on Isawa spell use in battle for maximum effect... meaning that they'd probably literally never tried that until the Moto were rampaging down their throats.
So, uh... tactics and strategy aren't such hot stuff in Rokugan up until now. 
1 hour ago, Shiba Gunichi said:Well, last go-around, the Phoenix started not losing battles to the Unicorn when they started letting the militarily-trained and unit-commanding Shiba call the timing on Isawa spell use in battle for maximum effect... meaning that they'd probably literally never tried that until the Moto were rampaging down their throats.
So, uh... tactics and strategy aren't such hot stuff in Rokugan up until now.
With a Thousand Years of PeaceTM, who'd ever need to use those things?
Edited by Laurence J Sinclair1 hour ago, Laurence J Sinclair said:With a Thousand Years of PeaceTM, who'd ever need to use those things?
What Thousand Years of Peace? There have been attempted invasions, and probably internal wars since the Day of Thunder.
Shadowlands tactics are easymode.
1. Be scary.
2. Kill those that do not cower before you.
3. Repeat until you rule Rokugan.
Stoopid samurai overcomplicate stuff.
Edited by Ishi Tonu10 minutes ago, Ishi Tonu said:Shadowlands tactics are easymode.
1. Be scary.
2. Kill those that do not cower before you.
3. Repeat until you rule Rogukan.
Stoopid samurai overcomplicate stuff.
You sound like Moto Chagatai.
3 hours ago, Shiba Gunichi said:they'd probably literally never tried that until the Moto were rampaging down their throats.
I'm not very experienced with the setting, but maybe tradition and doing things the way your ancestors did is strong enough in Rokugan that trying different tactics really doesn't occur to many people?
21 hours ago, Shiba Gunichi said:meaning that they'd probably literally never tried that until the Moto were rampaging down their throats.
So, uh... tactics and strategy aren't such hot stuff in Rokugan up until now.
Well, what do you expect? That would mean allowing the bushi to command the shugenja. That's just not the Phoenix way; Shiba knelt! 
8 minutes ago, Setekh said:Well, what do you expect? That would mean allowing the bushi to command the shugenja. That's just not the Phoenix way; Shiba knelt!
I was going to make a Shiba and kneepads joke....but I'll save it ??
18 hours ago, Kuni Katsuyoshi said:You sound like Moto Chagatai.
A good plan is a good plan, no matter who thought of it! 
28 minutes ago, jcharpjr71 said:A good plan is a good plan, no matter who thought of it!
You know, when I read The last part of Words and Deeds I actually cheered when Chags decided to just roll over and die.?????