The Chance Cube is proud to present four Empire at War spoilers for your enjoyment in various content forms covering various opinions from The Chance Cube Family:

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The spoilers are:
General Rieekan
Secret Mission
Hidden Agenda
Chance Cube

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Great stuff! Thanks, particularly like 'chance cube'

Awesome cards! Thanks!

Very fitting that you guys got to spoil the card "Chance Cube"! Also excited about Rieekan! Chance Cube doesn't seem great if you just think about it as a gamble, but combined with characters with focus sides on their dice, it's going to be a great and reliable way to get a ton of resources!

9 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Awesome cards! Thanks!

Very fitting that you guys got to spoil the card "Chance Cube"! Also excited about Rieekan! Chance Cube doesn't seem great if you just think about it as a gamble, but combined with characters with focus sides on their dice, it's going to be a great and reliable way to get a ton of resources!

We were so excited when we saw the card and can not wait to play it, no matter how "meta" it is or not. We love it

Chance Cube will be nice with characters with focus heavy dice...but I think it's overall worth was a little overstated in the write up.

Secret mission seems to be the best card of the bunch. And it will be better if hero blue mill keeps getting more cards and can actually be a thing worth playing.

Would be nice if Rieekan was 11/14 or 10/13....but the 11 health is a plus! He will be worth a try as elite with ePadme.

I am not sure about Riekkan, the 11 health is a big plus, but beyond that he just seems kind of Meh. he costs 1 more all around then mothma and replaces one of her resource sides with a 2 shield side, gains 2 health and replaces her ability with an ability that is nice for mil and all around just alright in other decks. The 15 points means at least we can see 2 dice him 1 dice Jynn as an option or 2 dice him 1 dice Luke as an option but I dont really know why you would want to. I think its going to depend on what else we see right now I just kind of see Reikkan being added to the pile of unplayable hero characters. To me the most exciting card is secret mission I have been lementing the lack of easy resource gen on Hero blue and this makes up so much for that....

Hmmm...

Chance Cube is basically a 0 resource, a 1 resource or 2 resource, with three -1 resource sides. It might find its place in vehicle heavy decks with lots of focus, but having to spend the resource to roll it in the first place seems a bit meh.

I like secret mission, its another reason for splashing a bit of blue into hero mills(i was always a fan of patience as well). It's also not bad as a bit of resource generation given that a lot of current decks are mono or 2 colour decks, and the 2 colour decks often favour one colour.

The possibilities for hidden agenda are great - reversal, never tell me the odds, endless ranks, decisive blow(video says its yellow cards only btw but i don't think thats the case).

General Rieekan... I dunno. Feels like another overcosted hero support character? I'm curious to see what other cards come out as there's every chance that he(and anyone else) could be amazing with the right pairings.

General Rieekan looks like another unplayable hero character, the most expensive support one. 11 health is nice but hey, FN has it to for 10/13! Maybe he will be ok with 1 die in mill decks like Rieekan/Padme/Maz. Secret Mission is nice mill card, Hidden Agenda is great. Chance Cube - hmm, rather bleh.

Chance Cube: I was pretty hot on this, until I started thinking about how it does against control. Paying one for this and then having it controlled will be very nasty. Which likely means it won't be effective for decks already light on resources because they can't afford to have it controlled, and probably ineffective as a primary money maker (because once the opponent realizes it's important they'll aim to control it). As such, I think its best bet to see play in decks that already have a stable resource base and can make use of the supplemental income....So Thrawn/Unkar, pretty much (you can't scout control with Thrawn before paying for it, but you can put it on your other character and activate Thrawn first).

Secret Mission: Okay, I don't play much mill...but trading a card in hand for one card from their deck seems like a bad deal all round. And maybe sometimes you get money, except it's too unreliable for that to be considered a real boon. So to me this seems quite bad.

Hidden Agenda: The maths on this is slightly better than most similar cards (usually 1 card + an additional cost for one resource), except you're limited with what you use the resources for. And most of those cards don't see play. This is slightly better because at least it's safe from Disrupt, but still not sold on it. It's not worth playing for one high cost event, so you probably need to be running several. And then the pay out is still only one resource saved. Will probably see play, but I think it'll under perform in general. Maybe at some point we'll see some combo decks that run it or something. (Also: Really wish this gave the event Ambush. Would be thematically appropriate, given you interesting choices when to trigger it, and gone a long way to making Jyn playable. Feels like a real missed opportunity).

General Rieekan: Aka Ackbar the Third. Man, just what Heroes needed, another mid cost Red focus guy. This one gives shields. Yay. He's got a mill ability (Millbility?), so I expect all the jank players will try to use him to make the Tier 1 mill deck, and find that he's kind of terrible.

Chance Cube could be used to bank rerolls. Play it after you have activated, and next round (after you have drawn up to 5) don't pay the resource and get a sixth card in hand. Maybe combine with Luke and Obi-Wan's journal for maximum number of cards in hand at once?

Secret Mission looks usable. I don't think it is meant exclusively for Patience mill decks (though they would likely use it). Early game it can provide an extra resource for a big upgrade, and late game when card counts become critical the discard can throw a monkey wrench at your opponent. From a design standpoint, though, I don't like that it is most effective against mono-color decks, which are already at a disadvantage in terms of card pool.

Hidden Agenda might get me to pull Block and Dodge out of the binder. But I'm not sure that's worth an upgrade slot and pre-paying for the events, so it might instead just join them in the binder.

I wish General Rieekan didn't say "other." The most you can get is two cards per turn, and that involves running three characters and keeping shields on two and the third alive. You could go triple color with Rey and Maz, but I think pairing him as an elite with Padme might yield better results overall.

The more I've thought on it the more I dislike Chance Cube. I'm just not seeing any real worth by adding it, especially with the better option of the Datapad. Sure, you get to play the in and out game against mill decks, maybe avoid Imp Inspection, but it costs too much to play every round. With so many good 2 cost upgrades, I can't see myself burning a resource to try on a 50/50. One less blank would make it a more viable option and still make it a gamble.

Chance Cube is a better deal once you consider rerolls. For example, if you're playing Vader/Kylo versus some other kind of aggro deck, it can add a lot of speed to round 2. If I'm playing Vader/Kylo vs. Rey/QuiGon, for example, I let Rey do her thing, do about eight damage to Vader, then claim while I'm putting the Chance Cube on Vader, leaving me free to do whatever I want. If the Chance Cube rolls good, I get the money and use it to put a Lightsaber on Kylo. If not, I roll in Kylo, discard the rest of my hand for rerolls until I'm getting three resources and enough damage showing to kill Rey. Then round 2 I get to bounce Chance Cube back to my hand so I can discard it for rerolls, and I've now got 6 resources to do whatever I want with (perhaps Rise Again for Vader?)!

Chance Cube is awesome in my opinion. I'm really looking forward to trying it!

Nice video - much better than the Tiny Grimes one where he mentioned your spoilers together with his commentary that showed he does not fully understand the game.

If only General Rieekan cost 2 less.....then I would have had a character that fired Maz in my Mill deck.

2 hours ago, Joelist said:

Nice video - much better than the Tiny Grimes one where he mentioned your spoilers together with his commentary that showed he does not fully understand the game.

Tiny grimes views cards through a competitive standpoint, not casual. He is usually right when dismissing cards as "unplayable" as in not competitive. He was wrong about palp and baze but nobody's right all the time.

Actually he's been wrong m ore often than just that.

6 hours ago, DarthBlade said:

Tiny grimes views cards through a competitive standpoint, not casual. He is usually right when dismissing cards as "unplayable" as in not competitive. He was wrong about palp and baze but nobody's right all the time.

He's been wrong many a time, he even said emo boys wasn't going to be a thing. He is no means an expert and thinks way to highly of himself. If he was humble I would be willing to give him credit for his mistakes. Also shows a lot when he also is willing to take the easy road, ie takes a Poe/Maz to win a store championship. I use to watch his streams, but can no longer do so.

24 minutes ago, Hujoe Bigs said:

He's been wrong many a time, he even said emo boys wasn't going to be a thing. He is no means an expert and thinks way to highly of himself. If he was humble I would be willing to give him credit for his mistakes. Also shows a lot when he also is willing to take the easy road, ie takes a Poe/Maz to win a store championship. I use to watch his streams, but can no longer do so.

Wow way to drag a guy through the mud!!

If you take such offence at a guy just trying to make some content for a game he loves for people to watch maybe you should get off you critical chuff and make some premier content yourself so that the rest of us can drag you down and insult you.

Seriously some people.

2 hours ago, Mace Windu said:

Wow way to drag a guy through the mud!!

If you take such offence at a guy just trying to make some content for a game he loves for people to watch maybe you should get off you critical chuff and make some premier content yourself so that the rest of us can drag you down and insult you.

Seriously some people.

If he didn't want to be critiqued he shouldn't of started a web series. Just because one doesn't partake in the creation of an product (his streams in this example) does not mean we can't say something about it. If that was the case, no one could say anything about TV shows or the like. The fact that some believe that gives him immunity is a flawed ideology.

In the long run he has dragged himself through mud, no one had to help him do so. Again, I am fine with content creators that aren't know it all, take Day9 for hearthstone for example, he knows he isn't the definitive source for that game but gives his opinion. He knows he's probably wrong. That attitude gives more of an appeal to someone than a know it all that falls flat 50% of the time.

So. Back on topic: anyone got any additional thoughts on the spoiled cards?

Or shall I just go ahead and ignore this thread as some sort of urinating match between children who want to argue about which content creators they do and do not like?

1 hour ago, Stu35 said:

So. Back on topic: anyone got any additional thoughts on the spoiled cards?

Or shall I just go ahead and ignore this thread as some sort of urinating match between children who want to argue about which content creators they do and do not like?

I was thinking about the General again, and realized Spy Net fits him like a glove. If you run Rieekan/Padme, you'll almost certainly hit a Focus each round (odds are around 70% for eRieekan/ePadme before rerolls).

The real question mark for me is Con Artist. It has a ton of potential, but with only one yellow character, will it be reliable in Rieekan/Padme?

55 minutes ago, GooeyChewie said:

I was thinking about the General again, and realized Spy Net fits him like a glove. If you run Rieekan/Padme, you'll almost certainly hit a Focus each round (odds are around 70% for eRieekan/ePadme before rerolls).

The real question mark for me is Con Artist. It has a ton of potential, but with only one yellow character, will it be reliable in Rieekan/Padme?

I think your missing an even more crucial question. How are you getting rid of his hand, just hitting his deck isnt good enough you HAVE to get those last few cards out of his hand.

I'm hoping C-3PO can turn some of those 2 Focus sides into 2 Discard when I don't have a lot else to do with them. I don't think that'll be enough, though, so I'm also hoping Heroes get something to help in that regard.

This is why I was wistful that Rieekan costs 2 too much. Otherwise I could have plugged him into the Maz spot on my eJyn-Maz deck. Jyn is the character that does as requested above - destroy the opposing hand. Oh well...

Well, you could try eRieekan/rJyn. They are 15 each. But then that reduces your 2 Discard sides to one die, and gives you near useless 2 Ranged sides. Blargh. Yeah, he could really have stood to be 10/14.