5 hours ago, Sybreed said:

funny. I have a lot more difficulties with building Imperial lists. Raiders, I've only had bad experiences with, and Vics, even though they got super buffed, still give me a bad taste because of its past bad performances.

Rebel lists are often a no brainer to me and I always have fun building them. Imps, I don't know what to do with them most of the time. I wish the Interdictor cost 15 points less than it does.

This is pretty much how I feel. Every time I try to build an Imperial list I feel like I'm trying to learn a new language. Everything "feels" wrong, the ships all feel too expensive for what I need them to do. It's absolutely insane how well they have pegged down the differences between ships so far.

So I finally decided on a Sato, GR75, Pelta Assault, 2x Scout MC30's loaded up, 3x z95's, 1x tycho, 1x shara, and 1x yt2400 for today's tourney. I did pretty well with it, winning all 3 games, but only placing 2nd because my MOV's weren't great on 2 games. (1st: 6-5, 2nd: 9-2, 3rd: 6-5) Finished 2nd with 21 tourney points; winner had 22, even though he lost in the 3rd game to me. Oddly enough, Sloane placed worst for us. I'll update the spreadsheet that someone else was maintaining in another thread.

On 4/8/2017 at 8:31 PM, Rocmistro said:

Do you guys painstakingly labor over your Tourney lists?

I have a local store tourney coming up tomorrow. I've completely changed (i'm not talking about minor tweaks here...expanded hangar bays vs boosted comms, Intell Officer vs. Xi7's) , I'm talking about complete overhauls to my list about 8 times in the last 24 hours. The ONLY thing that remains the same is faction (rebels).

It's enough to drive you crazy.

I used to find myself in your position when overthinking what I could possibly face. So I start thinking on counters to a certain commander and work a list over it, and then I realize that if I face another commander I'll be totally screwed, so I start all over again. So ended up making solid lists wich I feel comfortable with and forgot about what I could face or not.

19 hours ago, Sybreed said:

and Vics, even though they got super buffed, still give me a bad taste because of its past bad performances.

Rebel lists are often a no brainer

NebulonB users are just hating you right now.

I just keep wondering which ships/upgrades works best with my ISD with Vader at the helm....I'm far too attached and stubborn, haha. So yeah, the core stays the same but support ships change like the weather ?

...any ideas I might not have tried are welcome by they way ?

I don't have the foggiest what to do with rebel ships, aside from blasting them, that is.

44 minutes ago, clanofwolves said:

I just keep wondering which ships/upgrades works best with my ISD with Vader at the helm....I'm far too attached and stubborn, haha. So yeah, the core stays the same but support ships change like the weather ?

...any ideas I might not have tried are welcome by they way ?

I haven't played a huge amount with Vader, but here's some thoughts I've had on him:

Arquitens with slaved turrets (or even enhanced armament, if you're willing to spring for it).

You almost definitely want an isd 1, not 2 if you're running Vader. Maybe with leading shots and xi7s. Or avenger and boarding teams, if you're ok going with the cliche

That plus 2xArq (or even 3!) should be quite potent. Add a squadron screen to taste.

3 hours ago, clanofwolves said:

I just keep wondering which ships/upgrades works best with my ISD with Vader at the helm....I'm far too attached and stubborn, haha. So yeah, the core stays the same but support ships change like the weather ?

...any ideas I might not have tried are welcome by they way ?

A common list I like to fly is an ISD-II, 2 GSD-Is, a flotilla and a bunch of interceptors.

3 hours ago, Onidsen said:

I haven't played a huge amount with Vader, but here's some thoughts I've had on him:

Arquitens with slaved turrets (or even enhanced armament, if you're willing to spring for it).

You almost definitely want an isd 1, not 2 if you're running Vader. Maybe with leading shots and xi7s. Or avenger and boarding teams, if you're ok going with the cliche

That plus 2xArq (or even 3!) should be quite potent. Add a squadron screen to taste.

Or use Quad Battery Turrets on the Arquitens.

1 hour ago, TallGiraffe said:

Or use Quad Battery Turrets on the Arquitens.

Could certainly do that. I like to have a little more speed flexibility on them, but it's certainly a very good way to outfit 'em.

1 hour ago, Onidsen said:

Could certainly do that. I like to have a little more speed flexibility on them, but it's certainly a very good way to outfit 'em.

Even going speed 2 can see a lot of use.

*Bragging*

I've got more medals and coins than a WWI Italian Generalissimo, mostly from Armada's first year when squadrons were considered crap, and I brought the biggest Rhymerball possible at 100 points. (These were the 300-point days).

*Not bragging*

Anymore, I don't take the time to really think my list through. I barely know what my opponents might bring or how much of the new stuff even works. At tournaments, I generally win my first two rounds, and get pummeled, or the pummeling happens in the second and I win the third. I don't have or want to invest the brain cells to be more competitive than that, really.

Heck, I turned up to the tournament today, found out we had even numbers without me, and didn't even bother putting a list together.