Dengar and ?

By DXCrazytrain, in X-Wing

I have a SC tomorrow and I can't decide on who to run with Dengar, Nym or Tel.

I know Nym is the new hotness but he can get burned down pretty quick. Tel won worlds but can he still hang in a high ps/bombs meta?

So, which of those two would you fly with Dengar?

Nym. Nym with Cruise Missiles ca do Alpha (just like Tel) and I find Bomblets and Autoblaster Turret better than what Tel brings to the table.

Edited by LordBlades

Whichever one you think you'll enjoy playing more, to be honest. They're both good options. Personally I'd probably go Nym because he plays differently enough from Dengar to make things interesting, and provides a different kind of threat.

Or you could bring Fenn and Inaldra. You know, while you still can...

RIP Dengaroo Lite

Live dangerously and bring a non Imperial Cruise Missile list.

18 minutes ago, Warlon said:

Live dangerously and bring a non Imperial Cruise Missile list.

Like 4 TLTs! What fun!!!

1 hour ago, LordBlades said:

Nym. Nym with Cruise Missiles ca do Alpha (just like Tel) and I find Bomblets and Autoblaster Turret better than what Tel brings to the table.

I've actually found I like FCS and Synched Turret better than ACC and Autoblaster ?. But otherwise yeah, Genius, Bomblet, Cruise Missile Nym is super fun! Does make you at least consider Cad Bane on Dengar though.

Edited by wfain
7 minutes ago, wfain said:

I've actually found I like FCS and Synched Turret better than ACC and Autoblaster ?. But otherwise yeah, Genius, Bomblet, Cruise Missile Nym is super fun! Does make you at least consider Cad Bane on Dengar though.

Sorry, but whether you prefer synced turret or not... you are wrong.

Right now this is what I'm leaning towards running.

Scurrg H-6 Bomber: · Captain Nym (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
· Bomblet Generator (3)
· Havoc (0)
Accuracy Corrector (3)
· "Genius" (0)
JumpMaster 5000: · Dengar (33)
Expertise (4)
Counter-Measures (3)
K4 Security Droid (3)
· Punishing One (12)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
-- TOTAL ------- 97p. --

I know I could fit chips and a cruise missile but I'd rather have the initiative bid b/c there are so many vi Nyms around here, plus I'm not very good with them yet nor do I have room for em to get the most out of them.

2 hours ago, tortugatron said:

Sorry, but whether you prefer synced turret or not... you are wrong.

How so? Have you actually used it? FCS ensures you have the required lock to shoot, and it doesn't spend the lock to shoot. Further- the better your opponent the worse Autoblaster is. Synched gives you a much larger bubble in which to shoot and doesn't require you to barrel roll nearly as often, which improves your options quite a bit. This turret really opens up your options.

4 minutes ago, wfain said:

How so? Have you actually used it? FCS ensures you have the required lock to shoot, and it doesn't spend the lock to shoot. Further- the better your opponent the worse Autoblaster is. Synched gives you a much larger bubble in which to shoot and doesn't require you to barrel roll nearly as often, which improves your options quite a bit. This turret really opens up your options.

Autoblaster is great. Sounds like you just need to git gud.

4 minutes ago, tortugatron said:

Autoblaster is great. Sounds like you just need to git gud.

Oh cool. Great counterpoint. ?

I understand it isn't an obviously strong card and I wouldn't suggest it on really any other ship, but here it is actually quite good. Autoblaster is no doubt strong, but it limits your flight patterns and makes you far more predictable, which is not great. The more experienced your competition the less often they are going to engage your Autoblaster.

Edited by wfain
14 minutes ago, wfain said:

Oh cool. Great counterpoint. ?

I understand it isn't an obviously strong card and I wouldn't suggest it on really any other ship, but here it is actually quite good. Autoblaster is no doubt strong, but it limits your flight patterns and makes you far more predictable, which is not great. The more experienced your competition the less often they are going to engage your Autoblaster.

I guess you're not interested in gitting gud. Sad.

Nym

52 minutes ago, tortugatron said:

I guess you're not interested in gitting gud. Sad.

Sad. So sad. Tremendously sad. You know, I've been saying, how sad it is- been saying it a lot- many people have, ok? Many people have been saying how sad, tremendously sad it is. But we're going to be winning- do so much winning, like you would not believe. It will make your head spin, all the winning. You've heard about this? I'm telling you, ok? There will be a great, great wall- not the one in Chi-Na, a better, much better, and greater one. A wall of winning. And we'll win, ok? You'll win. I'll win. We'll all win. Many people have been saying it. And Crooked Hillary, Obama, that leaker Comey, and Isis will not be able to stop us- their whatever, synched turret? You've heard about this? I'm telling you, we're going to do so much winning, ok? So much winning, like you would not believe. And they'll say, 'oh no, how can we compete?' And you'll know if you could see her emails- 30,000 emails. So many emails, bleached- acid washed, and let me tell you, Ivanka looks so good in acid washed jeans, so good. Tremendously good. That's the kind of good we're talking about here. Ok? Gitting soooo gud.

Edited by wfain
8 minutes ago, wfain said:

And I guess you're not interested in anything other than trolling. Sad. So sad. Tremendously sad. You know, I've been saying, how sad it is- been saying it a lot- many people have, ok? Many people have been saying how sad, tremendously sad it is. But we're going to be winning- do so much winning, like you would not believe. It will make your head spin, all the winning. You've heard about this? I'm telling you, ok? There will be a great, great wall- not the one in Chi-Na, a better, much better, and greater one. A wall of winning. And we'll win, ok? You'll win. I'll win. We'll all win. Many people have been saying it. And Crooked Hillary, Obama, that leaker Comey, and Isis will not be able to stop us- their whatever, synched turret? You've heard about this? I'm telling you, we're going to do so much winning, ok? So much winning, like you would not believe. And they'll say, 'oh no, how can we compete?' And you'll know if you could see her emails- 30,000 emails. So many emails, bleached- acid washed, and let me tell you, Ivanka looks so good in acid washed jeans, so good. Tremendously good. That's the kind of good we're talking about here. Ok? Gitting soooo gud.

tl;dr

Just now, tortugatron said:

tl;dr

You really missed out.

6 minutes ago, wfain said:

You really missed out.

Coming from a synced turret user, that's doubtful.

So back to the op, meta-wing shows most Dengar's like torps but if Nym gets burned down quick, I feel like Dengar's going to want countermeasures to survive.

23 minutes ago, DXCrazytrain said:

So back to the op, meta-wing shows most Dengar's like torps but if Nym gets burned down quick, I feel like Dengar's going to want countermeasures to survive.

Yes. If the FAQ leak is true, you might want to just start using counter measures and scavenger crane right now. You can fit a cruise missile on Nym if he has autoblaster and AC/adv sensors, but not if he has a stupid synced turret.

34 minutes ago, tortugatron said:

Yes. If the FAQ leak is true, you might want to just start using counter measures and scavenger crane right now. You can fit a cruise missile on Nym if he has autoblaster and AC/adv sensors, but not if he has a stupid synced turret.

False.

100 points

PILOTS

Captain Nym (42)
Scurrg H-6 Bomber (30), Adaptability (0), Cruise Missiles (3), Synced Turret (4), Bomblet Generator (3), Havoc (0), Guidance Chips (0), Fire-Control System (2), “Genius” (0)

Dengar (58)
JumpMaster 5000 (33), Expertise (4), K4 Security Droid (3), Unhinged Astromech (1), Scavenger Crane (2), Punishing One (12), Counter-Measures (3)

100 points

PILOTS

Captain Nym (42)
Scurrg H-6 Bomber (30), Adaptability (0), Cruise Missiles (3), Synced Turret (4), Bomblet Generator (3), Havoc (0), Guidance Chips (0), Fire-Control System (2), “Genius” (0)

Dengar (58)
JumpMaster 5000 (33), Lone Wolf (2), Cad Bane (2), Overclocked R4 (1), Scavenger Crane (2), Punishing One (12), Counter-Measures (3), Proximity Mines (3)

99 points

PILOTS

Captain Nym (43)
Scurrg H-6 Bomber (30), Veteran Instincts (1), Cruise Missiles (3), Synced Turret (4), Bomblet Generator (3), Havoc (0), Guidance Chips (0), Fire-Control System (2), “Genius” (0)

Dengar (56)
JumpMaster 5000 (33), Lone Wolf (2), K4 Security Droid (3), Unhinged Astromech (1), Scavenger Crane (2), Punishing One (12), Counter-Measures (3)

Edited by wfain

JumpMaster 5000: · Dengar (33)
· Lone Wolf (2)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Guidance Chips (0)
K4 Security Droid (3)
· Punishing One (12)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Scurrg H-6 Bomber: · Captain Nym (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Extra Munitions (2)
Cruise Missiles (3)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
Ion Bombs (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
· Havoc (0)
Accuracy Corrector (3)
· "Genius" (0)
-- TOTAL ------- 97p. --

"**** the Bomblet" -Gregor Clegane

Get the PS bid. Win over other Nyms! Getting the bid will helps you a lot with ps10 Nym AT+AC.

And even with the Cruise Missile, because you can deploy directly in front of your enemy, after anyone.

Edited by Cerve

It's expertise/K4 Dengar. And VI is stapled to Nym. You like to do everything backward, don't you?

dengar and as many sycks as you can. or a named syck and light sunny bounder

Nym is a lotta fun which I feel is necessary when playing with such an overpowered and imo fairly dull ship as dengar

I like his ability but goddamn he's too good for his cost

Cruise + plasma is nasty, bombs are more for tech