Deadeye and primary attacks?

By Jimbawa, in X-Wing Rules Questions

We had an in-store tournament yesterday where one player had a TIE striker equipped with Deadeye. The first part clearly is in reference to secondary weapons, but we could not find a clear ruling on the phrase "When an attack instructs you to spend a target lock, you may spend a focus token instead." and if it could apply to his primary attacks. Have any TO's encountered this before or is there an FFG post clarifying it's usability that we're just not seeing? Thanks for any comments and input!

I don't know of any primary attacks that instruct a ship to spend a target lock, so I can't think of what circumstance you are thinking of.

If you are talking about using a focus token to re-roll your dice then you can't do that since it is not the attack instructing you to spend the target lock, but simply a game effect.

Are you asking if you can spend a focus as though it's a target lock if you have Deadeye? No, definitely not. That's not what it does at all.

All Deadeye does is let you make Attack (Target Lock) attacks with only a focus token, and lets you discard that focus token in place of a target lock if the Attack (Target Lock) weapon requires you to do so.

The Striker can't even equip any secondary weapons, so that Deadeye was doing literally nothing.

Edit: to expand a little more, your primary weapon attack never 'instructs you to spend' any kind of token. That wording is very specific. Look at something like say, Cluster Missiles. It has the Attack(Target Lock): header, so it qualifies for the first part of Deadeye; you can use Cluster Missiles with a Focus token instead of requiring a Target Lock on the target. The very first bit of text on Cluster Missiles after the header is "Spend your target lock...". This is the text that the second part of Deadeye applies to. Normally Cluster Missiles not only require you to have a Target Lock to use, but require you to spend that target lock token just to make the attack(so it won't be available to modify dice).

Compare that to Homing Missile, which has the Attack(Target Lock) header, but doesn't specify that you spend the target lock. In that case, with Deadeye, you could make the Homing Missile attack, but you'd still have your focus token to modify the dice.

Edited by Otacon

Contrast with Targeting Synchronizer which mentions a "game effect" instructing you to spend a Target Lock as opposed to an attack.

Currently Deadeye would not have any interactions outside of Secondary Weapons.

If you want to be able to cheat on the Target Lock vs Focus standard use you need Han Solo crew. Han can spend a Target Lock for the standard effect of a Focus if he wants.

He did things wrong rules wide and selecting ept, you put VI, adaptability or crackshot on tie strikers.

On 7/31/2017 at 3:07 PM, sharrrp said:

If you want to be able to cheat on the Target Lock vs Focus standard use you need Han Solo crew. Han can spend a Target Lock for the standard effect of a Focus if he wants.

And then only "While attacking"

All agreed that you cannot use deadeye to change a target lock into a focus, but how about using deadeye on Norra? Would you be able to use a focus to get her effect?

23 hours ago, RebelScumVeteran said:

All agreed that you cannot use deadeye to change a target lock into a focus, but how about using deadeye on Norra? Would you be able to use a focus to get her effect?

No. The card does exactly what is says and nothing else.

Deadeye reads "You may treat the " ATTACK (TARGET LOCK): " header as '" ATTACK (FOCUS): ". When an attack instructs you to spend a target lock, you may spend a focus token instead."

Norra's ability is "When attacking or defending, you may spend a target lock you have on the enemy ship to add 1 Focus result to your roll."

Nothing in Norra's ability mentions the Attack (Target Lock): header and while there is the "spend a target lock" instruction, it is not an 'attack' that so instructs you.

There is no interaction.