Is it Executor or Executor?

By Jukey, in Star Wars: Armada

8 minutes ago, Tayloraj100 said:

I have always pronounced it (and heard it pronounced) B.

furthermore, I long assumed there were at least two other Super Star Destroyers out there: the Legislator and the Judiciator.

Why do you think the first First Order SD we see is called the Finalizer ? :)

6 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Why do you think the first First Order SD we see is called the Finalizer ? :)

Honestly, I automatically chalked that up to the overall trend of toy lines and Saturday morning cartoons to use the letters 'z' and/or 'x' when naming bad guy stuff.

Also, it seemed like it followed the trend of Imperial ship names but was maybe trying too hard, which seemed to fit the First Order as a whole.

If it is pronounced as option B, would that mean somewhere out there is her sister ship, the Administrative Assistant? I just don't see how anyone lives who would name their ultimate weapon the Death Star, names their flagship after a legal term.

5 hours ago, coastcityo said:

If it is pronounced as option B, would that mean somewhere out there is her sister ship, the Administrative Assistant? I just don't see how anyone lives who would name their ultimate weapon the Death Star, names their flagship after a legal term.

I always assumed it was because Tassadar was the original captain.

In somewhat seriousness, I bet "Closer" really is a used ISD title

I mean, technically speaking — since ships are almost always feminine, it should be “Executrix” ;)

2 hours ago, Church14 said:

I always assumed it was because Tassadar was the original captain.

In somewhat seriousness, I bet "Closer" really is a used ISD title

Is that pronounced "Closer" as in "one who closes" or "Closer" as in "to get nearer to"?

Always be executing.

Is this Executor English or Latin?

12 hours ago, Tayloraj100 said:

furthermore, I long assumed there were at least two other Super Star Destroyers out there: the Legislator and the Judiciator.

Judicator was one of the ISDs in Thrawn's fleet.

I'm gonna say that the Eye of Palpatine qualifies as the Legislator , since he is the Senate. :)

11 hours ago, coastcityo said:

If it is pronounced as option B, would that mean somewhere out there is her sister ship, the Administrative Assistant? I just don't see how anyone lives who would name their ultimate weapon the Death Star, names their flagship after a legal term.

A friend I long had this argument with in our childhoods, and who eventually convinced me it was option b (with his Mother's help, she's a big fan too), was first that option a wasn't really a word at the time, and that with option b it was because it was the Executor of the Emporer's will.

I say it as B, and hate hearing A. I've never looked up an official pronunciation despite wondering, because my main man Tassadar taught me.

Yes Executor? Terra Khala! Yes Executor? It shall be done. Yes Executor? Of course. Yes Executor? Terra Khala!

I always took it as option A, because it fits the violent theme of the rest of Death squadron. Also there is another canon SSD known as the Ravager , not so friendly or law-abiding.

I always thought it was A because that's what Vader does.

Vader does not command with charts and graphs. He's going to kill someone, either the enemy or you for not doing your job.

I always thought it was A up until the late 90's. Then when playing Star Wars: X-Wing Alliance , Admiral Ackbar refers to it as option B. That was enough to convince me to change my mind.

(A) when Lord Vader is onboard commanding.

(B) when any other Imperial is commanding.

On 7/30/2017 at 3:05 PM, Norsehound said:

I always thought it was A because that's what Vader does.

Vader does not command with charts and graphs. He's going to kill someone, either the enemy or you for not doing your job.

What you're doing, here, is confusing the word 'Executioner' with 'Executor'. They aren't the same thing.

Ecks-a-cu-tor and Eggs-ek-u-tor - with the latter pronunciation 'correct', and the former 'archaic' - both have the same meaning. Specifically, the person who executes a legal proceeding - overseeing a will or estate most commonly, but basically controlling or managing anything. Ecks-a-cu-tor sounds like it might have some kind of violent or aggressive meaning, related to an executioner...but it doesn't. An executioner is an executioner, and only that. Both pronunciations for 'Executor', on the other hand, have the same "legalese" meaning.

1 hour ago, xanderf said:

What you're doing, here, is confusing the word 'Executioner' with 'Executor'. They aren't the same thing.

Ecks-a-cu-tor and Eggs-ek-u-tor - with the latter pronunciation 'correct', and the former 'archaic' - both have the same meaning. Specifically, the person who executes a legal proceeding - overseeing a will or estate most commonly, but basically controlling or managing anything. Ecks-a-cu-tor sounds like it might have some kind of violent or aggressive meaning, related to an executioner...but it doesn't. An executioner is an executioner, and only that. Both pronunciations for 'Executor', on the other hand, have the same "legalese" meaning.

So the whole debate goes from a 'Murder' or 'Legal Dude' to Tomato Tomato Potato Potato?

In that case, I definitely think it should be option A. Sure, most of the Imps were British, but so what? :)

So far in canon it is consistently B: Executor (as in, executive, the supreme Executor).

It's always mentioned in audiobooks as B but the ambiguity of the name is probably intentional.

On 7/28/2017 at 3:46 AM, Jukey said:

Pronunciation is what I'm curious about.

I've have always gone with pronunciation (B), because it sounds much better. I also thought "Eks-eh-cute-or" was a little juvenile conjuring up an Executioner, but then I was reminded that the Imperials have things named "Death Star" and "Devastator" so it isn't that unreasonable or over the top.

Also, in the 1980s radio drama, the ship was pronounced (A), and that's the only time it's ever been said aloud by anyone in any sort of official capacity. Nevertheless, I still say (B).

6 hours ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Also, in the 1980s radio drama, the ship was pronounced (A), and that's the only time it's ever been said aloud by anyone in any sort of official capacity. Nevertheless, I still say (B).

It wasn't, actually. I bothered to check (it's actually pretty entertaining - there is a whole bit about getting convoys through to Hoth before the main action starts) specifically to see if this question was answered.

You are referring to this one, right ?

@xanderf , you're a real hero of the Empire. Is there a formal title for a person who executes a job with exacting ability and effectiveness? Because if so, that's you.

When you say the word executable, you say it as Ecks-e-cu-ta-ble

You wouldn't say Eggs-ek-u-ta-ble.

Well, I wouldn't anyways. Ah English, the most insane of languages.

Will always be A in my Vader obsessed mind!

B. The level of violence that ship is capable of producing is more than enough. The name provides the athority behind that violence, implying that it will not only unleash that violence on its victims, but that it has the right and duty to do so.

That is the Empire I know and love!

On 8/2/2017 at 7:57 PM, xanderf said:

It wasn't, actually. I bothered to check (it's actually pretty entertaining - there is a whole bit about getting convoys through to Hoth before the main action starts) specifically to see if this question was answered.

You are referring to this one, right ?

It's been a long time, but perhaps the Return of the Jedi radio drama? I'm not positive which one it was. But yea, those things are high quality.

Edited by AllWingsStandyingBy
On 7/29/2017 at 7:47 AM, kevinbal said:

I mean, technically speaking — since ships are almost always feminine, it should be “Executrix” ;)

Isn't that the name of Tarkin's Star Destroyer?