18 minutes ago, Audio Weasel said:

I think this thread having not been nuked by a mod may be an indication as to the veracity of this leak

You probably haven't seen how upset known playtesters are about the "supposed" leak. It's almost certainly real. There is no way there would be outcries for the leaker to be reported or Facebook groups asking it to not be posted like there has been if it wasn't legit.

2 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

Fenn *with mindlink* was the issue though. Doesn't matter if you block him or he does red moves, he's still got his tokens. With the mindlink change, he's probably more likely to show up with PTL if you run him, which makes him much easier to play around

Not to mention double focus meant Fenn didn't have to weigh the consequences of spending his focus on attack vs saving it for defense.

So, all jumps would lose one torpedo slot, and if titled they'd lose the second one too? So there's no use in contracted scouts anymore as a torpedo boat. And you really only want to fly a single JM at a time. Not sure the torpedo slot removals was called for. Maybe drop one off punishing one?

Adv Slam Nerf would kill it outright.

13 minutes ago, codegnave said:

As a naysayer to this being an accurate final leak, I don't think this should be looked at as evidence. Coverups of easily accessible internet files are, I think, not done by savvy corporations.

That, and how terribly moderated these forums are, would put me off this line of thought.

6 minutes ago, Kdubb said:

You probably haven't seen how upset known playtesters are about the "supposed" leak. It's almost certainly real. There is no way there would be outcries for the leaker to be reported or Facebook groups asking it to not be posted like there has been if it wasn't legit.

I was mainly thinking of when the tfa starter leaked and threads started disappearing like crazy.

Just now, Audio Weasel said:

I was mainly thinking of when the tfa starter leaked and threads started disappearing like crazy.

Ya that was surprising when they did that considering how little moderation these forums seem to get lol. Honestly the best path with things like this is to do nothing imo. You delete the info, it's known to be real. You leave it be, then at least there is some speculation.

Now the whole Slam and Bomb K-wing release article would be totally nuked. The Advanced SLAM was a card meant to be used to drop bombs!
What's the point of taking 1 focus token after SLAMming on a ship with 1 agility and a weapons disabled token? A target lock? For maybe using it next round?

This is again FFG not fixing the real problem that is Sabine. One autodamage without range limit on any friendly bomb is what killed aces. Sabine should have been changed to roll a die and suffer the damage rolled or something like that.
Instead, they pull a Deadeye and nerf the wrong card, again.

I find the wording "remove the torpedo" slot kind of weird to describe a ship with two torpedo slots, but I guess it could just be a wording error on the leaker's part. I'm still skeptical until it's actually released though.

The adv SLAM change would render the card null and void when all you really have to do is have it NOT trigger on hard turns

i dont believe it.

The JM5K change is what it should have been from the start (least the mech) since Dengar modified his ship heavily. I'd be fine with an illicit on there but the mech makes no sense to be stock.
However, thats touching territory FFG doesnt like touching: they might as well change costs at this point.

The Attani change wont do anything. All the lists that use a Protectorate will just swap it for Fearlessness and still be a threat and a half. Still say it should be shut down by stress (stressed? no focus for you)

Wtf is that SLAM change?
edit: nvm, adv slam not slam in general i get it

Well what if instead of nerfing everything and making more cards unplayable, buff cards so we could see more variety

Two new cards for the unplayable list:

Mindlink

Advanced Slam

1 minute ago, garciaj113 said:

Well what if instead of nerfing everything and making more cards unplayable, buff cards so we could see more variety

Yeah, that'd let us keep complaining about power creep, too, FFS!!one1

@haslo

I can't wait for the only playable ept to be push the limit or VI and the only modification engine, autothrusters or guidance chips. Man I love having so many useless cards that are unplayable.

4 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

i dont believe it.

The JM5K change is what it should have been from the start (least the mech) since Dengar modified his ship heavily. I'd be fine with an illicit on there but the mech makes no sense to be stock.
However, thats touching territory FFG doesnt like touching: they might as well change costs at this point.

The Attani change wont do anything. All the lists that use a Protectorate will just swap it for Fearlessness and still be a threat and a half. Still say it should be shut down by stress (stressed? no focus for you)

Wtf is that SLAM change?
edit: nvm, adv slam not slam in general i get it

The attanni change likely kills mindlink as a competitive card. And if you "just" swap it to fearlessness on protectorates that's huge. Now thye get no tokens if they fly over rocks, or you block them, or they do a red maneuver, or whatever.

2 minutes ago, garciaj113 said:

Well what if instead of nerfing everything and making more cards unplayable, buff cards so we could see more variety

Two new cards for the unplayable list:

Mindlink

Advanced Slam

Mindlink is plenty playable, just not as strong or as easy to abuse. Guri and Palob still love it, and at 1 point, it doesn't need to be exceedingly strong now, does it?

I agree that advanced slam is going to be a hard sell though. Although Miranda slamming to disengage and feed Rey more focus tokens isn't awful.

not sure if Attanni change is that overly devastating

it's still LEAGUES apart from the utter garbage that is Esege's and Shara's pilot abilities because it doesn't actually eat your mods and can go on cheap ships (and has infinite range)

6 minutes ago, garciaj113 said:

Two new cards for the unplayable list:

Mindlink

Advanced Slam

People said the same thing about Palpatine but I keep finding his clones everywhere...

Just now, Warlon said:

People said the same thing about Palpatine but I keep finding his clones everywhere...

classic over-reactions to game changes...

1 minute ago, garciaj113 said:

@haslo

I can't wait for the only playable ept to be push the limit or VI and the only modification engine, autothrusters or guidance chips. Man I love having so many useless cards that are unplayable.

Crack shot, adaptability, expertise, predator, juke, stay on target, intensity, lone wolf, deadeye, draw their fire, selflessness, expert handling, snap shot, swarm leader. I find your argument fallacious.

1 minute ago, Crit Happens said:

classic over-reactions to game changes...

Outliers are everywhere.

1 minute ago, hargleblarg said:

Crack shot, adaptability, expertise, predator, juke, stay on target, intensity, lone wolf, deadeye, draw their fire, selflessness, expert handling, snap shot, swarm leader. I find your argument fallacious.

If you don't mind, I would like to add A Score to Settle to your list.

2 minutes ago, hargleblarg said:

Mindlink is plenty playable, just not as strong or as easy to abuse. Guri and Palob still love it, and at 1 point, it doesn't need to be exceedingly strong now, does it?

Indeed. It's gone from broken auto include on anything scum with more than 4 green maneuvers S+ tier card to situational and good on some pilots whose abilities synergize with it. Having less cards in the former and more in the later category is better for the game.

I have tested K4 and Expertise Jumps and they are rock solid. Better with unhinged but still plenty usable.

K wing's 3 speed upper limit will see action bombs go down in prevalence in rebel lists. Adv. Slam feels o.k. but time will tell. Probably the one card in the 'supposed' faq that may not see table time anymore except in a handful of lists.

Mindlink being 2 only is thematic for those that actually read those old pre-prequel novels. Still usable, but no longer a rock a majority of scum lists are built around.

And that new star viper pilot that copies PS/Abilities... not having an ept isn't as bad.

Just now, SabineKey said:

If you don't mind, I would like to add A Score to Settle to your list.

Goddammit I knew I forgot one

Just now, hargleblarg said:

Goddammit I knew I forgot one

Heh, that's part of it's charm.

For God's sake, Dear FFG, just release a pack with errataed cards.

I'm seriously beginning to lose track of changes. I'd prefer not having to devote a night of monkish study prior to each tournament.