Just now, VanderLegion said:

Sabine is fine without Adv Slam. TLT isn't really OP, just...better than all the other turrets (except occasionally autoblaster). Biggs coul duse something...

Agreed, it was the advanced SLAM/Sabine combo that made bomber K-wings so distorting. Hobbling one of those is likely enough to allow aces to at least peek back into the meta. Sabine will still be a really good card, no doubt, but at this point I'm not sure she needs a further nerf.

TLTs tend to be/feel OP because of the lack of aces which were driven out by bombs. It's still probably too good and I wouldn't mind it costing 7 points but I'm more in wait and see how things shake out mode now.

I fully expect a Biggs nerf sometime in 2018 after some other unintentional change has already largely driven him out of the meta...

@Tlfj200 : Is it a man power issue? Two developers, one month for a working prototype that does the basics, at least if I was coding it. Probably four months for project as a whole.

1 minute ago, VanderLegion said:

Sabine is fine without Adv Slam. TLT isn't really OP, just...better than all the other turrets (except occasionally autoblaster). Biggs coul duse something...

But the forum want them death !

But I don't agree about Sabine with Nym Rebel she could be more dangerous "once per round" should be fine !

3 minutes ago, Arkanta974 said:

But the forum want them death !

But I don't agree about Sabine with Nym Rebel she could be more dangerous "once per round" should be fine !

With nym though you either don't get genius (So you know exactly where the bomb will go), or you have to take sabine on another ship in your list

4 minutes ago, sozin said:

@Tlfj200 : Is it a man power issue? Two developers, one month for a working prototype that does the basics, at least if I was coding it. Probably four months for project as a whole.

I think it would be if they opened up potential changes to everyone publicly.

think of all the terrible feedback they'd have to wade brought to get to good feedback?

Things like 'but muh Biggs!' And 'where's muh x-wing buff?!' Instead of actually well-thought out , playtested game design ideas.

No change to Biggs? Not real.

9 minutes ago, Rakaydos said:

Could be as simple as "When you recieve a token, one other ship with attani mindlink without that token recieves that token."

That's the exactly the sort of adjustment I would implement if it were me making a change.

Ah, I hear you @Tlfj200 , good point. I guess I'd build a little web app that requires that you submit things like both lists, dice variance ( links to ladyluck if played on vassal), round by round ship deaths, and commentary on the match. Reports that don't include these things are auto-filtered out. I'd also use a issue tracking/ticketing system like Jira to coordinate the data. It honestly doesn't feel that bad, just another IT project that is more slog than hog.

So assuming this is real, what will be the next thing to dominate the tournament scene?

Jankyard Biggs?

Imperial 10s with Cruise Missiles?

Just now, VanderLegion said:

With nym though you either don't get genius (So you know exactly where the bomb will go), or you have to take sabine on another ship in your list

Rebel Nym isn't as good with Genius to begin with as he either has to delay detonation, and thus let them have a chance to escape, or get hit himself.

Scum Nym on the other hand with EU and advanced sensors is the new advanced SLAM K-wing.

20 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

also, no current wording exists for "limit to two"

Why would that matter? No wording existed for conditions before they wrote it, or any other mechanic. All that's needed is something like this tacked on the end:

"You may not equip more than two of this upgrade in your squad."

I'll grant that reasons to doubt the leak might exist, but this hardly feels like one.

3 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

think of all the terrible feedback they'd have to wade brought to get to good feedback?

Things like 'but muh Biggs!' And 'where's muh x-wing buff?!' Instead of actually well-thought out , playtested game design ideas.

Speaking as some one who basically had this job for a summer... this sounds like a job for an intern

Reason to doubt it: if they're going to change pilot cards, +1 HWK attack is first on the list.

I'm not that impressed by these changes.

No Biggs change first of all. Advanced slam is now largely rendered pointless, I'd have preferred them to have errata'd sabine to not work with a weapons disabled token or something along those lines.

The scout should have lost its EPT, and I'd have liked the second torpedo to move to the title rather than losing both. I like the salvaged astromech move, that's a big issue and a change I wanted. The loss of illicit limits some interesting options with cheap builds but isn't the end of the world if the EPT is still there.

I dislike the mindlink change a lot, I'd have much preferred a range limit. As it is it won't stop focus batteries etc, but it shuts out lots of interesting small ship builds that weren't an issue.

And still no buff to Saboteur.

2 minutes ago, ViscerothSWG said:

Reason to doubt it: if they're going to change pilot cards, +1 HWK attack is first on the list.

That's a cardboard change, not just a pilot card change.

2 minutes ago, apoapsis said:

And still no buff to Saboteur.

Kylo Crew Tie Shuttle + Palp/Saboteur deci + Lt. Colzet.

#fakenews #alternate facts

While keeping a healthy bit of skepticism is good in this case, I do hope this turns out to be true. It takes down Jumps a few pegs, but not totally out of the running, Mindlink is not the go-to ept for Scum anymore (though I will miss playing some of those builds), and a part of the Sabine/Adv. Slam/Cluster Mine combo was toned down, hopefully make conditions more tolerable for Aces.

Making it title to have the salvaged and the extra torp slot and illicit seems way too expensive.

This may sound really dramatic though it's not that severe in my brain, but I definitely compare these leaks to whistleblowers and corrupt corporations. Except in this case the corruption is mostly in the playtesters who get to know and test and practice unfairly prior to release (like Worlds last year, which was very messed up) and FFG's main fault is the NDA and playtesters being allowed to compete.

If this is legit I have to thank the person who leaked it. I'm not going to Gencon or any major events in the near future so this doesn't affect me one way or another directly, but based on principle I have to support this turn of events.

As someone who won some SCs with Mindlink and Jumpmasters I still have to say the FAQ is nice too.

I believe it.

The Mindlink nerf is harsh but I'd rather they go too hard there than not hard enough.

I think Biggs may need a look after this but fair to assume arc-dodgers will be helped by the SLAM change and could pick bigs apart

I don't want to believe it if for nothing else the mindlink nerf. That is so inelegant and arbitrary...

1 minute ago, Stay On The Leader said:

I believe it.

The Mindlink nerf is harsh but I'd rather they go too hard there than not hard enough.

I think Biggs may need a look after this but fair to assume arc-dodgers will be helped by the SLAM change and could pick bigs apart

We've had the Imperial Purge, this would be the Scum Raid, we just need a Rebel Massacre to bring balance.

Something for Jankyard Biggs, Dash/Miranda, and possibly Rebel Regen if it comes back too hard.

3 minutes ago, codegnave said:

I don't want to believe it if for nothing else the mindlink nerf. That is so inelegant and arbitrary...

How so? It's rather thematic when you think about it since fluff wise mindlink was only between 2 people. The mechanics can be debated but I'd say it's a very elegant and... bitrary change

Mindlink is still a budget PTL for a single ship, without being limited to greens. This is probably what the designers had in mind when designing the card. It's just no longer absurdly abusive for such a small price. It can probably still find play as 2 mindlinked ships + an independent ace (PTL Fenn).

It seems like a super harsh nerf, but remember how ludicrous the action economy is right now...