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Robert

In canon, the Falcon is supposedly faster, significantly helped by the fact that it's a lot more agile than a Star Destroyer. In game, at full speed an Imperial is about 10-12% faster. (Someone else please take a snip on Vassal and post it, I'm not 100% sure how to do the posting bit now that the forums have been updated.) This comes with the caveat that in game, Captain Solo can make up a lot of the gap by making sure he's going to be hit by the ISD, and then moving in front of it, making it (under those circumstances) a dead heat.

Solo made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs thanks to FCT and AFFM.

That is cheating.

The Star Destroyer is big whilst the Falcon is smaller.

9 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Solo made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs thanks to FCT and AFFM.

That is cheating.

He no doubt had a little help from Adar and Yavaris. That phony.

Linear velocity? The Star Destroyer. Larger engine output, larger fuel capacity. Using the hyperdrive? The Falcon. Movies support this when Solo mentions he can't outrun the two star destroyers from Death squadron while escaping Hoth unless he can jump to light speed.

2 hours ago, Destraa said:

Linear velocity? The Star Destroyer. Larger engine output, larger fuel capacity. Using the hyperdrive? The Falcon. Movies support this when Solo mentions he can't outrun the two star destroyers from Death squadron while escaping Hoth unless he can jump to light speed.

Or from Tatooine for that matter...

Yeah, but Han has two brace tokens - the ISD cannot possibly kill him before the six rounds are over... well, maybe with concentrate fire...

9 hours ago, LTD said:

Yeah, but Han has two brace tokens - the ISD cannot possibly kill him before the six rounds are over... well, maybe with concentrate fire...

Double arcing, RS, QLT*...

17 hours ago, Shadow345 said:

The Star Destroyer is big whilst the Falcon is smaller.

this ultimately shouldn't matter in the weightlessness of space

i never took physics

1 minute ago, BergerFett said:

this ultimately shouldn't matter in the weightlessness of space

i never took physics

It absolutely matters in space! Regardless of gravity, F=MA. Always. That is to say Force = Mass * Acceleration. Or more importantly, (Ship Acceleration) = (Ship Mass) / (Engine Force)

17 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Double arcing, RS, QLT*...

Han moves first

the ISD1 has a top atmospheric speed of 975km/h

A corellian light frieghter has a top atmospheric speed of 1050km/h this is before any of Hans fiddling.

I would say that the falcon is faster.

10 minutes ago, BergerFett said:

the ISD1 has a top atmospheric speed of 975km/h

A corellian light frieghter has a top atmospheric speed of 1050km/h this is before any of Hans fiddling.

I would say that the falcon is faster.

In an atmosphere.

But what about in space?

Is Han using the few moves he knows, one of which is slowly drifting to the left, the Falcon by far.

2 hours ago, Khyros said:

It absolutely matters in space! Regardless of gravity, F=MA. Always. That is to say Force = Mass * Acceleration. Or more importantly, (Ship Acceleration) = (Ship Mass) / (Engine Force)

Even more importantly, ISDs have big engines and large fuel capacity. Bigger ships will be able to get to higher top speeds in the vacuum of space than smaller ships. Changing direction is still more difficult.

But Star Wars "space" isn't space! It's some kind of ether...

2 hours ago, Valca said:

Even more importantly, ISDs have big engines and large fuel capacity. Bigger ships will be able to get to higher top speeds in the vacuum of space than smaller ships. Changing direction is still more difficult.

It all depends on the ratio of ship mass to engine power. A ship like the Falcon which is 1/3 engine likely has a higher ratio than a ship like an ISD (which may have giant engines, but is also 1.4km long). Though the point about fuel is well taken. Technically you're only accelerating until you run out of fuel, and I would tend to agree that a ISD has a longer distance than the falcon does (think of it like a 4 passenger single prop plane vs. an Boeing 777).

20 hours ago, Destraa said:

Linear velocity? The Star Destroyer. Larger engine output, larger fuel capacity. Using the hyperdrive? The Falcon. Movies support this when Solo mentions he can't outrun the two star destroyers from Death squadron while escaping Hoth unless he can jump to light speed.

Yes, when the Falcon is called fast it is in reference to its illegally modified hyperdrive.

The falcon is what a car person would call a "sleeper"

On 7/28/2017 at 11:13 AM, BergerFett said:

this ultimately shouldn't matter in the weightlessness of space

i never took physics

It still take energy to accelerate mass to a set speed, so while the ship has no weight, it does have mass.

Weight is just a measurement for how gravity interact with your mass

Anyone who has seen Star Wars knows that when the Falcon was escaping from Tatooine 2 Star Destroyers were gaining on him so in canon a Star Destroyer is faster. I'd say about 2 parsecs faster (I kid of course) There is no way to measure speeds on fictional craft.

To those trying to make the argument that smaller equals faster that is simply not even close to true in space. The only measurements that would matter at all is thrust to mass ratio, fuel burn and fuel quantity.

The higher your thrust to mass ratio the faster you would accelerate and you would keep accelerating until you ran out of fuel (without breaking the speed of light of course).

So if the falcon and a star destroyer had equal thrust to mass ratios and the falcon ran out of fuel first (most likely as efficiency tends to increase on larger vessels with larger engines) then the Star Destroyer would keep accelerating.

But if the Falcon had a better thrust to weight ratio (which is actually unlikely.. again engines generally get more efficient with scale) then it would accelerate faster initially but the Star Destroyer would keep accelerating long after the falcon ran out of fuel and eventually pass it.

The Falcon has the lowest hyperdrive rating (fastest speed) in Star Wars canon, at 0.5, and the Imperial Star Destroyer has a 2.0.

I can't say how much faster one is than the other, but Han's illegal hyperdrive modification is what makes his claim of fastest ship in the galaxy.