So there are some nice builds for Nym emerging but all of them use Havoc, so who are you using to ferry Cad Bane around?

My thoughts were bumpmaster or maybe a partybus.....

Party Bus; Cad Bane could be fun; give you something to hopefully swat files when they are up your bum,

Just ran this at our weekly casual night with some pretty good success:

Tel Tevura (30)
Veteran Instincts 1
Extra Munitions 2
Cad Bane 2
Cluster Mines 4
R4-E1 1
Punishing One 12
Hull Upgrade 3

Captain Nym
Veteran Instincts 1
Autoblaster Turret 2
Extra Munitions 2
Concussion Missile 4
Bomblet Generator 3
Havoc 0
Guidance Chips 0
Accuracy Corrector 3
"Genius" 0

Tel looks for that gap in the rocks, does a 4 straight into a 4-K to lay down a 'smokescreen' of Cluster Mines while Nym comes around to flank from the side, lobbing a Concussion Missile into the tailpipe of a ship that runs over Tel's Cluster Mines.

Possible Changes: Considering freeing up a point (Nym to Adaptability, maybe) to swap Autoblaster Turret & Accuracy Corrector for Synced Turret & FCS.

Cad Bane isn't actually very good.

26 minutes ago, SOTL said:

Cad Bane isn't actually very good.

why?

with bomblet is great, with cluster is really good.... maybe sabine is better with ion, conner etc, but..... why do you think he's not good?

Yes, I suppose that's the next question is he worth it. which I think depends on how many relevant bombs you bring

4 minutes ago, alien earth said:

why?

with bomblet is great, with cluster is really good.... maybe sabine is better with ion, conner etc, but..... why do you think he's not good?

Fair enough. He's not as good as the options you get on the Scurgg from Havoc, and on other ships he's limited to certain bombs.

Also you listed the two bombs he's not that good with, he's actually best with Proxy Mines.

Cad is... he's ok. If you need the bomb slot he's good, his damage potential is pretty minor though.

I'm mostly not. Nym would be the obvious choice but he really wants the system slot in order to be effective. Without him there aren't many good options.

19 minutes ago, alien earth said:

why?

with bomblet is great, with cluster is really good.... maybe sabine is better with ion, conner etc, but..... why do you think he's not good?

Because math.

Cad Bane gives you 0 additional damage on a fixed damage bomb, 0.5 average additional damage on a 2-dice bomb and 0.75 on a 3-dice one.

Sabine gives you 1 guaranteed additional damage on a fixed damage bomb, 1 guaranteed additional damage on a 2-dice bomb, 1 guaranteed additional damage on a 3-dice one, ability to deal that damage to a different ship and the ability to use K-Wings, which are better at bombing than any other ship in the game.

nah put him in a jumpmaster

Scout
Adaptability
Cad Bane
Extra Munitions
R4-E1
Cluster Mines
Scavenger Crane
Experimental Interface

Welcome to Combo Wing. This guy is ps2, can drop a bomb after a 4k or a 2 right sloop. Can do any other manuever, roll and drop a bomb. When something finally dies, he gets his bombs back. Its solid.

9 minutes ago, Elavion said:

Because math.

Cad Bane gives you 0 additional damage on a fixed damage bomb, 0.5 average additional damage on a 2-dice bomb and 0.75 on a 3-dice one.

Sabine gives you 1 guaranteed additional damage on a fixed damage bomb, 1 guaranteed additional damage on a 2-dice bomb, 1 guaranteed additional damage on a 3-dice one, ability to deal that damage to a different ship and the ability to use K-Wings, which are better at bombing than any other ship in the game.

So basically, it sucks because Sabine is better? Wow, thanks mate

2 minutes ago, Cerve said:

So basically, it sucks because Sabine is better? Wow, thanks mate

In a sense, yes. Unlike her, he's probably appropriately costed, but if we exclude external factors there is still no reason to run a scum bombing squadron over a rebel one simply because Sabine and the K-Wing exist.

Just now, Elavion said:

In a sense, yes. Unlike her, he's probably appropriately costed, but if we exclude external factors there is still no reason to run a scum bombing squadron over a rebel one simply because Sabine and the K-Wing exist.

Except Jumpmasters are still significantly undercosted and should be run whenever possible.

1 minute ago, Elavion said:

In a sense, yes. Unlike her, he's probably appropriately costed, but if we exclude external factors there is still no reason to run a scum bombing squadron over a rebel one simply because Sabine and the K-Wing exist.

I not agree with this sentence. Scum now can set up a bomber list which will play extremely differente from the rebel side. And still good.

54 minutes ago, Luuke C said:

nah put him in a jumpmaster

Scout
Adaptability
Cad Bane
Extra Munitions
R4-E1
Cluster Mines
Scavenger Crane
Experimental Interface

Welcome to Combo Wing. This guy is ps2, can drop a bomb after a 4k or a 2 right sloop. Can do any other manuever, roll and drop a bomb. When something finally dies, he gets his bombs back. Its solid.

Bloody expensive though. What do you put with this and Nym? Or do you just run this and Nym, in which case you're really lacking in punch if you're not getting those bombs out.

2 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Bloody expensive though. What do you put with this and Nym? Or do you just run this and Nym, in which case you're really lacking in punch if you're not getting those bombs out.

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How bad do you actually have to play to not get those bombs off at ps2 and on that chassis? I'll tell you. Really, reallly bad.

You don't need cad to have Nym do work, in fact I believe k4 dengar is just too good to pass up because he's busted as ****

But me? I gotta fly two wingspan and a thing (it's a problem ) so cad's going on sul

Flew the Cad on Dengar at a Store tournament this weekend, with Cluster Mines on Dengar and Bomblet Nym in support. I only actually used Dengar's Cluster Mines once, but just having them proved to be an effective deterrent and Cad helped make the bombs from Nym a little bit more effective.

I'm thinking that Nym on a Shadowcaster could be quite good fun, especially Ketsu. Tractoring ships onto a set of Cluster Mines? Yes please!

I liked a Jumpmaster with Cad and Cluster Mines plus an EMP device to make sure something actually plows over the mines. You only get to use it once but I like the chances of it working out better than with Ketsu, who will only work against small ships and can't reposition herself.

20 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

Flew the Cad on Dengar at a Store tournament this weekend, with Cluster Mines on Dengar and Bomblet Nym in support. I only actually used Dengar's Cluster Mines once, but just having them proved to be an effective deterrent and Cad helped make the bombs from Nym a little bit more effective.

I'm thinking that Nym on a Shadowcaster could be quite good fun, especially Ketsu. Tractoring ships onto a set of Cluster Mines? Yes please!

Running them on Dengar actually seems like it might be a cool idea to make him tankier. Drop them between you and the people chasing you, get Reinforce.

i like this