What about:

Dalan Oberos

• PTL
• Advanced Sensors
• Cloaking device
• Starviper M2
• Virago

Try Predicting that mess of mind boggling repositioning abilities!

Completely useless for anything else much though. PTL on a starviper isn't that great.

EU for even more hijinx.

I think it has native boost already!

1 minute ago, ABXY said:

EU for even more hijinx.

Has native boost, doesn't need it.

2 minutes ago, ABXY said:

EU for even more hijinx.

Starviper already has boost and BR, so unnecessary. I kept tripping over EI + Expert handling while thinking of this, though.

That is exactly what I was just looking at! EH is strong in the current meta, but Dalan at PS6 means he can't effectively shrug off TLs from alpha hunting Dengars, Nyms, Quickdraws, Vaders, new Hans (!), etc.

Even xizor with the new title will be dangerous

30 minutes ago, Infinite_Maelstrom said:

Completely useless for anything else much though. PTL on a starviper isn't that great.

Well, avoid enemies arc of fire is the key of this game. And against turrets, you still have Autothrusters.

I like this guy

40 minutes ago, Infinite_Maelstrom said:

What about:

Dalan Oberos

• PTL
• Advanced Sensors
• Cloaking device
• Starviper M2
• Virago

Try Predicting that mess of mind boggling repositioning abilities!

Completely useless for anything else much though. PTL on a starviper isn't that great.

I think PTL on a starviper became better with the title because you can do a 1 bank green maneuver than a 1 bank barrel roll to get your ship around very sharply. Sure its using an action to do so but before the equivalent was 1 bank, into 1 bank boost and that moves you freakishly far. I don't really think that's better than a Hard 2 or 1 green but it's better than the star viper currently is for removing stress.

Even just barrel rolling crazy style and triggering push into a green maneuver became much stronger because you can get your ship around much easier let alone the huge pile of options you have made for yourself compared to the current starviper.

Now am i going to take PTL, probably not I am digging intensity right now.

PtL and Advanced Sensors is counter-productive to Dolan Oberos. The ability doesn't work when stressed.

Another alternative is to replace Advanced Sensors With Electronic baffle, then add PRS to minimise self-damage. I will always like AS on anything like this though, it takes so much brain power if your opponent isn't used to it, and if you are used to it, well... Funsies!

1 minute ago, jmswood said:

PtL and Advanced Sensors is counter-productive to Dolan Oberos. The ability doesn't work when stressed.

You wouldn't use ptl when you needed Dalan's ability, it just opens up more options for other times.

1 minute ago, Infinite_Maelstrom said:

You wouldn't use ptl when you needed Dalan's ability, it just opens up more options for other times.

True, but not very efficient.

3 minutes ago, jmswood said:

True, but not very efficient.

I think the point of the thread was lost on you.

2 minutes ago, Icelom said:

I think the point of the thread was lost on you.

Excuse my ignorance. Was the the point something other than theory-crafting a fun build? I might be missing again, but I believe a build can be fun and efficient.

4 minutes ago, jmswood said:

Excuse my ignorance. Was the the point something other than theory-crafting a fun build? I might be missing again, but I believe a build can be fun and efficient.

Was just trying to see if there is a new contender for most maneuverable Ship. Dalan is the Obero-ius choice, because of the ability, but much of the unpredictability of this ship is in the bent BR's + AS.

9 minutes ago, Infinite_Maelstrom said:

Was just trying to see if there is a new contender for most maneuverable Ship. Dalan is the Obero-ius choice, because of the ability, but much of the unpredictability of this ship is in the bent BR's + AS.

You get a like for the pun

Cool, can we add a cloaking device to that

1 hour ago, sozin said:

I think it has native boost already!

1 hour ago, GLEXOR said:

Has native boost, doesn't need it.

1 hour ago, Infinite_Maelstrom said:

Starviper already has boost and BR, so unnecessary. I kept tripping over EI + Expert handling while thinking of this, though.

Ah-ha... You've just discovered my "intentional error in a post"...

No, not really - whoopsie - just goes to show, I don't fly Vipers (for now!)

10 minutes ago, ABXY said:

Ah-ha... You've just discovered my "intentional error in a post"...

No, not really - whoopsie - just goes to show, I don't fly Vipers (for now!)

I Love 'em! They're in my top 4 or so star wars ships list, along with TIE Defenders, TIE Predators, and K-wings. (There are some close Runner-ups, though)

Unfortunately, I play Imperial, and generally dislike Scum. I'll find a way to get some eventually...

1 hour ago, sozin said:

That is exactly what I was just looking at! EH is strong in the current meta, but Dalan at PS6 means he can't effectively shrug off TLs from alpha hunting Dengars, Nyms, Quickdraws, Vaders, new Hans (!), etc.

What is EH.

EH = Expert Handling

2 hours ago, jmswood said:

True, but not very efficient.

I have to disagree, it is very efficient. Not for pulling off his ability every round, but for getting 2 actions for no stress in the rounds you don't need to turn around (with greens), and it gives you an action when you DO turn around. Sure it takes some time to get back to 2xActions with no stress, but it is just a flexibility.

It really feels to me like Dalan's ability woudl not have been broken if it retained the original manoeuvre colour. Without that, I fear he just ends up like Kad - a solid ability, but when it only works every other round, just not worth using.

1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said:

It really feels to me like Dalan's ability woudl not have been broken if it retained the original manoeuvre colour. Without that, I fear he just ends up like Kad - a solid ability, but when it only works every other round, just not worth using.

I was thinking much the same, it's fun and would be interesting to use, I dont think it would see much top play though. But I have been wrong once before...many moons ago.

1 minute ago, Archangelspiv said:

I was thinking much the same, it's fun and would be interesting to use, I dont think it would see much top play though. But I have been wrong once before...many moons ago.

It would see similar levels of play to Ryad, I think. That is, quite a lot, but eminently beatable and there are definitely better pilots.