1 minute ago, kris40k said:

Ok, I get it now!

Yeah, I was confused on the starting position.

So here's what's happening, he could 1 l bank but instead uses advanced se....

just kidding ?

7 minutes ago, Suhawk75 said:

I can get that you love the game but your "nuanced" opinion fails to translate to your forum persona. You seem relentlessly negative about the game which, frankly, makes the whole forum seem a lot less enjoyable to the relative newcomers here (I include myself here). We have to wade through dozens of posts complaining constantly which sucks the zest of the place.

If I've missed the sunny uplands of some of your postings I apologise.

I don't have many sunny uploads, but regardless what I'm saying is true, however negative it is.

I drove 2.5 hours to play in an event with only 2 other people in it because a local Destiny SC sapped all the X-Wings players on that day. A guy said, "People would rather complain about things in this game instead of trying to find what works. It can be so negative online sometimes." (Paraphrasing here)

A few minutes later he said, "God, I hate TLT".

Sometimes the cancer is so bad that it can't be ignored, even by the glass half full people.

1 hour ago, ArbitraryNerd said:

No Juke, though, so it's not all that bad.

Just an absolute pain to kill.

... Which, uh, with three native attack is actually kind of troubling.

WHELP. Gotta kill him fast, since he's going to have a hard time getting the initial target lock.

You know, before you nuke the bombing monstrosity known as Nym.

hard to say which one i would target 1st. Funny thing about Nym is most of the time you get killed by the autoblaster/ac instead of the bombs :-)

4 hours ago, skins1924 said:

Does this mean Gencon release?

Seems likely as they always have an early release at GenCon.

52 minutes ago, balindamood said:

I think he is a meta call. If you know you are going to see a lot of lists that have a certain pilot that gels well on a Starviper chassis, then he is in (RAC, Vader, Ryad, Dengar, Corran, Tel, Ray...and so on). If you fly against something else, grab the PS. He can be kitted put in the mid-20's which is a good-option desert for Scum.

Tel doesn't do you any good. You trigger his ability and take 4 damage and die again.

48 minutes ago, Cerve said:

I will not understimate Dalan Oberos. I know that Thweek seems more fun, but Dalan is nearly unblocable.

He's no more unblockable than any starviper, he just has more options for where his arc can be pointing after he moves. His ability doesn't change where he can end up, just which direction he's facing. It's definitely GOOD, and lets him get shots more often where another viper might not be able to.

34 minutes ago, haslo said:

He starts bottom left, and would move to a rather bad spot bottom right. He also has Advanced Sensors equipped. So he barrel rolls top left first, and then talon rolls to the top right with his bank.

No mistake I can see here, just inefficient communication.

Perfect. So the move to the right is just a "potential" one that is unused.

11 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

He's no more unblockable than any starviper, he just has more options for where his arc can be pointing after he moves. His ability doesn't change where he can end up, just which direction he's facing. It's definitely GOOD, and lets him get shots more often where another viper might not be able to.

Talon Roll has some wiggle room, so it makes a little bit more difficult to block him.

1 minute ago, Ubul said:

Talon Roll has some wiggle room, so it makes a little bit more difficult to block him.

True, a bit

1 minute ago, VanderLegion said:

True, a bit

True, a lot. There's more: his room of possibilities is way more larger than anyother Viper. Because as an opponent vs a standard Viper i can just think about blocking only the maneuvers that makes you able to shoot me, whenever I can be safe if you will do all the others (because of your standard arc of fire). But him? He turns a lot of these "blind" maneuvers into "fire position" maneuvers.

Even without ADV, he still way to maneuvrable than any other Vipers.

I'd love to copy Tycho's ability, even without EPT slot for Push. Would make the dial really great and still be able to do an action. Depending on the rest of the lists, you have the decision of the ability, or the PS

4 minutes ago, Cerve said:

True, a lot. There's more: his room of possibilities is way more larger than anyother Viper. Because as an opponent vs a standard Viper i can just think about blocking only the maneuvers that makes you able to shoot me, whenever I can be safe if you will do all the others (because of your standard arc of fire). But him? He turns a lot of these "blind" maneuvers into "fire position" maneuvers.

Even without ADV, he still way to maneuvrable than any other Vipers.

What is the best EPT to make sure he still has modifications? Adv Sensors is cool in some situaitons I guess, but he lso has that slot. Problem with Starviper was and still is that it can't clear stress. So this dude doing red maneuvers is not that impressive.

You done great FFG... WOW!

For that matter, Thweekter Hel. The ability is a lot more annoying when it's on a ship which isnt agility 2.

26 minutes ago, Chibi-Nya said:

What is the best EPT to make sure he still has modifications? Adv Sensors is cool in some situaitons I guess, but he lso has that slot. Problem with Starviper was and still is that it can't clear stress. So this dude doing red maneuvers is not that impressive.

Uh? You can do a red tallon, not you "must".

Anyway, Attanni Mindlink still the best ept even in him.

24 minutes ago, Chibi-Nya said:

What is the best EPT to make sure he still has modifications? Adv Sensors is cool in some situaitons I guess, but he lso has that slot. Problem with Starviper was and still is that it can't clear stress. So this dude doing red maneuvers is not that impressive.

He can do some mighty fine things with Adrenaline Rush...

Just now, Cerve said:

Uh? You can do a red tallon, not you "must".

Yeah, but you're screwed if you choose to use it, is what I'm saying.

1 minute ago, Chibi-Nya said:

Yeah, but you're screwed if you choose to use it, is what I'm saying.

No way.

29 minutes ago, Chibi-Nya said:

What is the best EPT to make sure he still has modifications? Adv Sensors is cool in some situaitons I guess, but he lso has that slot. Problem with Starviper was and still is that it can't clear stress. So this dude doing red maneuvers is not that impressive.

Even more reason to give him FCS and Mindlink: that way the ships he's flying with can still pass him Focus through their own green maneuvers, AND he's still got modification of his dice even if he has to pull whites after his one trick.

I mean, I still think Mindlink Guri or Thweek is better, but a single stress is not the utter horror that some people think it is.

Just now, iamfanboy said:

Even more reason to give him FCS and Mindlink: that way the ships he's flying with can still pass him Focus through their own green maneuvers, AND he's still got modification of his dice even if he has to pull whites after his one trick.

I mean, I still think Mindlink Guri or Thweek is better, but a single stress is not the utter horror that some people think it is.

Mindlink will be good if the other ships can afford being passed a stress every other turn.

1 minute ago, Chibi-Nya said:

Mindlink will be good if the other ships can afford being passed a stress every other turn.

Fang Fighters, Lancers, and Jumpmasters can usually afford to do that just fine.

5 hours ago, Vindicare101 said:

Can't wait to use Thweek to Mimic Tel Trevura..

UBER-lol

I have proxied Guri with Intensity, AdvSensors and MkII, her maneuverability was quite sick.

But Dalan in an Adv Sensor Config with MkII ...he can end up in so many places *TILT*

Just now, Managarmr said:

I have proxied Guri with Intensity, AdvSensors and MkII, her maneuverability was quite sick.

But Dalan in an Adv Sensor Config with MkII ...he can end up in so many places *TILT*

I think that if you becomes good with fly-skill, you can run it at PS6. He needs some dice modificator, so something like ADV+Predator, or Attanni Mindlink etc.

I'm very pleased! So I leave you guys speculate and so on in this matter..

2 hours ago, Ubul said:

I think you are looking at the wrong starting position. He starts face to face with the TIE.

It's like he is ordering up a bunch of sushi.