Just now, Cerve said:

I will not understimate Dalan Oberos. I know that Thweek seems more fun, but Dalan is nearly unblocable.

Dalan Oberos is what Lt. Lorrir should have been and will be crazy fun to fly, while not being some broken powerhouse.

1 hour ago, ArbitraryNerd said:

Based on initiative, one Thweek will not have his written pilot ability when the other Thweek gets to select a pilot ability. I believe this is a RAW success, and I am honestly surprised if they let this slip by if it wasn't RAI.

Yes, it sure looks like it. Would that need a FAQ entry? Since the player with initiative can determine if this is possible...

53 minutes ago, Chibi-Nya said:

Nobody gonna talk about Bank T-rolls guy? Wtf is that picture showing it anyways? I can't make any sense of what he is doing there. He has an EPT and could actually be decent and not just a gimmick.

You know, the more I look at that image, the more confused I get, so I'm just going to stop now.

But I will vote that picture for the "Mistake of the Article" award.

29 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

not gonna lie... "biggs'Thweek/2x Torp Scouts does not sound friendly.

Knowing that bringing Biggs means a nightmare scenario if you run into Thweek (+ AT + Sensor Jammer + Glitterstim) might just be the thing to make Rebels a bit less Biggs-crazy....?

9 minutes ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:

But for real..

ListJuggler says Thweet will mimic one of the following (if you choose to put Thweet into your list):

1. Dengar - Even better on a non-turret.
2. Fenn Rau - Very nice.
3. Quickdraw - Yasss. Shield upgrade or that new regen Illicit.
4. Jess Pava - Meh. With new title, good luck staying at r-1
5. Vessery - Meh. Saves points from FCS, if you dare
6. Biggs* - Yay! Now Imperials just needs access to the Devs' biggest regret.
7. Lowrhhick* - Useless
8. Nym* - Can you imagine having access to both versions of Nym's ability if you play Scum Nym with Thweet versus the Rebel Nym?

*Um, Biggs should be in the top 5, as should Nym and Lowbrow, but I'm sure the data just needs updated..

let us not forget:

- Miranda

- Quick Draw

- Dash

for tier 1 pilots

then tier 2-3 pilots like:

- Poe

- Wedge

- Skywalker

- Vader

- Tycho

- Rey

- Inquisitor

- Pure Sabbac

- Countdown

- IG88C

- Palob

- Talon Bane

- Sunny!

- N'Dru

All fun off the top of my head...

Just now, xanderf said:

Knowing that bringing Biggs means a nightmare scenario if you run into Thweek (+ AT + Sensor Jammer + Glitterstim) might just be the thing to make Rebels a bit less Biggs-crazy....?

I'm hoping so. I'm a rebel player and purposefully don't build with Biggs because it enrages others.

4 hours ago, Chibi-Nya said:

Or Pulse Ray Shield Quickdraw...

NOPE. Scum and Rebels Only! No fun allowed for Imps! God forbid they ever get any good mods!

Just now, Johen Dood said:

NOPE. Scum and Rebels Only! No fun allowed for Imps! God forbid they ever get any good mods!

Thweek can equip it, though...

Just now, Chibi-Nya said:

Thweek can equip it, though...

1 minute ago, Johen Dood said:

NOPE. Scum and Rebels Only! No fun allowed for Imps! God forbid they ever get any good mods!

you take Thweek with pulse ray shield and ion disruption. You see Quickdraw, you steal his ability. keep regening shields and double tapping. = fun times!

Just now, Wiredin said:

you take Thweek with pulse ray shield and ion disruption. You see Quickdraw, you steal his ability. keep regening shields and double tapping. = fun times!

Ah. Yeah fun times if you're Scum. Nowe they get ALL the good pilot abilities in the game! Yay for fun and balanced Scumwing!

19 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Yep. You tournament boys always let us Filthy Casuals have the most fun. It's not my fault.

You're the one that brought up the meta in your initial comment I was responding to, I don't recall calling anyone filthy, and I have plenty of fun at tournaments thank you very much.

1 hour ago, Kdubb said:

The few that do see play though, are well noted. Biggs, Jess, and Wampa.

I too believe these ships are exceptions to the rule because their abilities are some of the best in the game, and in Jess's case, she has no problem paying an additional point for an elite.

Biggs has probably the best ability in the game, and Wampa has an obvious combo with an elite upgrade. I don't believe Thweek is on the scale of either ship due to the unpredictability of his ability.

It's definitely the unpredictability that's the problem. Consider the fairly basic build someone else listed here that comes to 30 points. You either get a relatively fragile PS4 ship for that cost, or a PSX generic where X is the highest your opponent brought, and again in both cases your action economy is pretty rough, though FCS helps. Maybe it'll turn out great but it seems like it's going to have problems with bomber lists, as others have pointed out, and it doesn't slot into any of the currently strong Scum builds very well, though maybe the Khiraxwhatsit goodies will help open up some new ones.

I hit submit too many times because I got no response. My post count is metastasizing lol.

When I hit 'submit', I got no response so I hit it a few more times.

When I posted, I got no response so I slammed submit a few extra times. Like when you hit print too many times and 20 copies come out.

14 minutes ago, kris40k said:

You know, the more I look at that image, the more confused I get, so I'm just going to stop now.

But I will vote that picture for the "Mistake of the Article" award.

It is an example, how Dalan can change his maneuver. He dialed 1 bank right, which would put him right in front of the TIE advanced. Instead, he barrel rolls to the left, and changes his maneuver to a 1 talon-roll.

24 minutes ago, Suhawk75 said:

Have you considered a different game mate? This one only seems to f*** you right off

THIS

4 minutes ago, Ubul said:

It is an example, how Dalan can change his maneuver. He dialed 1 bank, which would put him right in front of the TIE advanced. Instead, he barrel rolls to the left, and changes his maneuver to a 1 talon-roll.

But he rotates his facing in the first move which comes from his side like a barrel roll which is not possible, then barrel rolls (which should not be possible since he already rolled, then did a 1 bank right.

At no point, does he do a Tallon Roll.

Edit: The only think I can think of is that he has PtL and Baffle equiped. Someone does a "tallon roll" incorrectly, then he baffles the stress, barrel rolls right, then PtL to boost 1 bank right.

Makes me think that maybe Dalans the sleeper hit here. With VI at PS8 and adv sensors he can do some crazy moves...

maybe chuck a cloak on him for extra shenanigans! ?

22 minutes ago, Suhawk75 said:

Have you considered a different game mate? This one only seems to f*** you right off

I complain about this game because I love it. I own approximately 180 ships, I should post a storage porn thread one day, it would be glorious.

But wanting something that you love to be improved is too nuanced of an opinion for you to handle, right? "Complaining bad. Complaining about X-Wing bad. SaltMaster bad. grrrrrrrrr"

The things I complain about no longer bother me, I use them myself. I'm just intellectually honest and am capable of empathy. I can see when something is an NPE for another person and shouldn't be in the game independent of whether or not I'm playing it myself, unlike most of you guys.

Besides, there is a certain joy in flying cancer and grinding an NPE into an opponent's face as you make ironic jokes about it taking a lot of skill to do so. Really drives the point home.

19 minutes ago, kris40k said:

You know, the more I look at that image, the more confused I get, so I'm just going to stop now.

But I will vote that picture for the "Mistake of the Article" award.

On this case you have two choices :

Execute the 1 right bank move (and be at range 1 of the tie advanced) or use advanced sensor with the new title to barrel roll left, use ability to perform a short segnor loop to arc dodge the tie advanced and shoot.

Just a example to show how fun will be the new title and the pilot.

19 minutes ago, Otacon said:

You're the one that brought up the meta in your initial comment I was responding to, I don't recall calling anyone filthy, and I have plenty of fun at tournaments thank you very much.

It's a friendly epithet 'round here, lest I read the boards wrong. Sorry for omitting the "I'm being snarky" emoticon:

And if you can talk about this game without talking about meta, that's one lucky thread indeed.

19 minutes ago, kris40k said:

You know, the more I look at that image, the more confused I get, so I'm just going to stop now.

But I will vote that picture for the "Mistake of the Article" award.

He starts bottom left, and would move to a rather bad spot bottom right. He also has Advanced Sensors equipped. So he barrel rolls top left first, and then talon rolls to the top right with his bank.

No mistake I can see here, just inefficient communication.

Just now, haslo said:

He starts bottom left, and would move to a rather bad spot bottom right. He also has Advanced Sensors equipped. So he barrel rolls top left first, and then talon rolls to the top right with his bank.

No mistake I can see here, just inefficient communication.

Ok, I get it now!

Yeah, I was confused on the starting position.

6 minutes ago, SaltMaster 5000 said:

I complain about this game because I love it. I own approximately 180 ships, I should post a storage porn thread one day. But of course, wanting something that you love to be improved is too nuanced of an opinion for you, right?

Also, it's not often that I'm salty. When I complain about things, it's from the perspective of an opponent that might get crushed by it. Things no longer really bother me personally, I just roll with them and use NPE's myself. I'm just intellectually honest. There are certain things you should not be able to do in this game, including myself.

And there is a certain joy to be had in grinding an NPE into your opponents face while making ironic jokes about it taking a lot of skill to do so. Really drives the point home.

I can get that you love the game but your "nuanced" opinion fails to translate to your forum persona. You seem relentlessly negative about the game which, frankly, makes the whole forum seem a lot less enjoyable to the relative newcomers here (I include myself here). We have to wade through dozens of posts complaining constantly which sucks the zest of the place.

If I've missed the sunny uplands of some of your postings I apologise.

Just now, kris40k said:

But he reverses his facing in the first move which comes from his side like a barrel roll which is not possible, then barrel rolls (which should not be possible since he already rolled, then did a 1 bank right.

At no point, does he do a Tallon Roll.

I think you are looking at the wrong starting position. He starts face to face with the TIE.