I'm thinking of using the named B-wing...remove 1 stress to change all focus results to hits, can't remember her name...equipped with E2, Hera, Stay on Target, and Fire Control System (35 points). What are some complimentary squad mates, that aren't Biggs or the Asstruck? I'm thinking of 3 GSP A-wings...

Keyan Farlander

B-wing aces are best run as trim as possible. If you're going to fly one without Biggs or some other direct damage mitigation, then the best way to keep a B-wing alive is diversion. Make something else in your list so threatening, your opponent has to think twice before going after the soft target (B-wing) first. 3 GSP's do not accomplish this goal. Your list paints Farlander as a clear and easy first target, providing a juicy morsel of MoV to your opponent. After Farlander goes down, you're stuck with a pathetic offense and you will struggle to ****** a victory.

35 points is seriously pushing the upper limit of too many points spent on a B-wing. That being said, the build looks flexible enough to work if you can keep the heat off. Other Farlander builds I recommend:

Keyan Farlander (32) - B-Wing
Rage (1), Collision Detector (0), B-Wing/E2 (1), Inspiring Recruit (1)

Keyan Farlander (33) - B-Wing
Opportunist (4), Collision Detector (0)

Farlander wingmen I recommend: Poe, Norra, Wes (for the Opportunist build only) and more recently I would consider Nym, though I haven't flown Nym yet. Fill out the rest of your list with whatever suits you.

I've always liked the idea of filling out an entire list with the theme of staying stressed. That Keyan isn't bad, though I do like Ibtisam for 5 points cheaper.

Ibtisam (28)
+ B-Wing/E2 (1)
+ Hera Syndulla (1)
+ Collision Detector (0)
+ A Score to Settle (0)

Tycho Celchu (26)
+ A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
+ Experimental Interface (3)
+ Proton Rockets/Cruise Missiles (3)
+ Push the Limit (3)
+ Rage (1)

Horton Salm (25)
+ R2-D6 (1)
+ Twin Laser Turret (6)
+ Wired (1)

Once stressed, Ibtisam still has the full use of her dial, plus offensive and defensive re-rolls, and a crit conversion against her designated target. As the lowest PS in the list, that crit will hopefully hit hull, too. And the B-Wing has 5 shields to help mitigate A Debt to Pay return fire.

Tycho likewise has almost his full dial (no k-turns), plus a ton of actions. Focus and "TL" from Rage, plus 2 other actions (such as Boost/Evade) thanks to PtL and EI. Proton Rockets vs Cruise Missiles to taste.

Horton sadly has to take R2-D6 to get his EPT, but with Wired he has essentially full Target Locks for all his attacks once stressed, plus the defensive re-roll. He has 11 moves to pick from if he's double-stressed, 9 if he wants to keep 1 stress.

Bring some debris with this list, because you can fly through it pretty much at-will. Oh, and the list is at 99 points as-is, so you could throw a Tractor Bean on Ibtisam if you didn't want the bid.

On 7/24/2017 at 9:45 AM, jmswood said:

Keyan Farlander

B-wing aces are best run as trim as possible. If you're going to fly one without Biggs or some other direct damage mitigation, then the best way to keep a B-wing alive is diversion. Make something else in your list so threatening, your opponent has to think twice before going after the soft target (B-wing) first. 3 GSP's do not accomplish this goal. Your list paints Farlander as a clear and easy first target, providing a juicy morsel of MoV to your opponent. After Farlander goes down, you're stuck with a pathetic offense and you will struggle to ****** a victory.

35 points is seriously pushing the upper limit of too many points spent on a B-wing. That being said, the build looks flexible enough to work if you can keep the heat off. Other Farlander builds I recommend:

Keyan Farlander (32) - B-Wing
Rage (1), Collision Detector (0), B-Wing/E2 (1), Inspiring Recruit (1)

Keyan Farlander (33) - B-Wing
Opportunist (4), Collision Detector (0)

Farlander wingmen I recommend: Poe, Norra, Wes (for the Opportunist build only) and more recently I would consider Nym, though I haven't flown Nym yet. Fill out the rest of your list with whatever suits you.

Considering I use the B-wing build in my OP, which Keyan would synergize better? I like the look of Keyan with Inspiring Recruit, but that'd put the list at 70 points... With that in mind, which of your other suggestions would you recommend? I'm generally unfamiliar with Rebel builds, and have no idea about the Wes/Opportunist build.

Wes can strip a focus token from an enemy ship, so he shoots before Farlander to make sure Opportunist can trigger. If you did it right, Farlander has a target lock from his action and he's slinging 4-5 fully modified reds against a target with no focus for defense.

If you're sitting at 70 points, then spend the last 30 on Jess Pava. She hits hard, loves formations and gives the opponent yet another threat assessment to make. (not necessarily the whole 30 points on Jess)

Back to the OP, Keyan Farlander is the ship I'd chosen, now with the following build: E2, Hera, Rage; total 32 points. I've decided to fly something fun and challenging, an A-wing, Jake, with the following build: Test Pilot, Intensity, Cool Hand, Hull Upgrade, and Prockets; total 33 points. Can stack tokens like crazy, even after a K-turn, push for out-of-enemy-(primary)arc range 1 threat, then nibble with token buffs. Should also be sweet at defense.

The final ship is a B-wing, Nera, with VI, FCS, Chips, Plasma Torps, and EM. Finishes the list at 100/100. **** having initiative. Fly smart. "Git gud", as they say. Should be a tough target priority; ignore Nera and Keyan, then Jake is the backdoor man. Heck, I'll block if I gotta to get positioning and targeting.

So, I'm pretty jazzed about this list, but would take Q,C,RR. NEVER flown Rebs, so I wanna do something fun, challenging, busy, and different.

Have at it.

Thanks

If you use Rage, you need Inspiring Recruit! Otherwise you're gonna get pinned down by the B-Wing dial. I think 2 B-Wings makes for too soft of a list.

I think that Jake is a little too squishy. He needs VI to really shine, and PTL is, in my opinion, better than Intensity on him. Plus Autothrusters is better mitigation than Hull Upgrade.

Okay; I've never been one for "meta" lists. I suppose I like being the underdog, challenged, and I've (sort of) come to terms with losing...a lot. As someone who has played Imps exclusively until now, playing Rebs is new territory.

Keyan Farlander (B-wing), Rage, E2, Hera. No problems while being stressed. Thinking of switching out Jake for Tycho with PtL, Rage, ExInt, and Cruise. Finishing the list with Nera.

Would I be better of keeping Be close together or separated?

16 hours ago, Alekzanter said:

Okay; I've never been one for "meta" lists. I suppose I like being the underdog, challenged, and I've (sort of) come to terms with losing...a lot. As someone who has played Imps exclusively until now, playing Rebs is new territory.

Keyan Farlander (B-wing), Rage, E2, Hera. No problems while being stressed. Thinking of switching out Jake for Tycho with PtL, Rage, ExInt, and Cruise. Finishing the list with Nera.

Would I be better of keeping Be close together or separated?

Always concentrate arcs of fire, not ships. Tycho - especially without autothrusters - is incredibly mobile but made of wafers. If you try and hold formation with slow, tough B-wings he'll get shot to snot.

The rebels have several good "what's stress?" ships.

• Keyan Farlander - B-Wing/E2, Rage, Hera Syndulla, Fire Control System
• Tycho Celchu - A-wing Test Pilot, Push The Limit, Daredevil, Proton Rockets, Autothrusters
• Ezra Bridger - Lone Wolf, Twin Laser Turret
• Horton Salm - R2-D6, Twin Laser Turret, Wired
• Poe Dameron - Intensity, BB-8, Primed Thrusters, Integrated Astromech

All of the above can maintain good dice modifiers, stupid manouvrability, or both, whilst using only their white dials and remaining stressed (or even red dials in the case of Keyan).

Also - specific shout-out to Tycho. Rage is cool (condensing Focus and Target Lock) and works well instead of daredevil in the above build. But try Daredevil/Push The Limit at least once, because speed 5 straight/speed 1 turn/speed 1 bank has to be seen to be believed on the "how the [censored] did he get there?!?!?!" stakes.

Keyan w/ Rage, E2, and Hera, and Nera w/ VI, FCS, Plasma Torps, EM, and Chips flew well together. Kept them close to each other, didn't fret stress (like accidentally overlapping debris), although Keyans ability is lackluster if no focus are rolled. Flew in slow, with Keyan pulling slowly ahead by a couple base lengths, then K-turned Keyan toward Nera and locked an ARC in dual range 1 vice. Gah, misjudged and K-turned with Jake too soon! Got popped. Likely going to switch out for Tycho, BB8 Poe, or another B-wing.

As an aside: ISYTDS does not bypass shields, correct? The crit actually has to land (be uncancelled) before applying the chosen effect, yes? I was told I could not use a shield to cancel the final crit I hadn't evaded.

On 8/9/2017 at 4:59 AM, Alekzanter said:

As an aside: ISYTDS does not bypass shields, correct? The crit actually has to land (be uncancelled) before applying the chosen effect, yes? I was told I could not use a shield to cancel the final crit I hadn't evaded.

I'm afraid not; losing a shield token is not cancelling the critical, it's suffering the critcal's normal effect. You are correct that the critical has to be uncancelled, but Cancelling is a specific game effect that determines whether or not a shot hits.

If you lose shields but hull to an attack, I can still trigger after an attack that hits abilities (like whisper)

If a [kaboom] effect is not cancelled by green dice (or being cancelled by a game effect like ion cannon or countdown) then you suffer 1 critical damage.

the normal effect of suffering 1 critical damage is to lose a shield (or to suffer a face-up damage card if you have no shields).

But I'll Show You The Dark Side triggers instead and causes you to suffer the chosen face-up pilot critical instead.