Kylo Ren's Shuttle Title

By xbeaker, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I looked all over for this and found nothing. I don't get the wording on this title. Based on how I read it, if I have the title on my ship there doesn't seem to be a point to picking an opponent's ship as a target. " At the end of the Combat phase , choose an unstressed enemy ship at Range 1-2. Its owner must assign a stress token to it, or assign a stress token to another ship at Range 1-2 of you that that player controls. " What is the point of me picking a ship if my opponent can just choose a different ship? We debate vague text all the time, is this just a case of FFG actually being over specific? Couldn't it just say, "At the end of the Combat Phase your opponent must assign 1 stress to one of their ships at range 1-2 of you."

Edited by xbeaker

Because you can't choose to double stress a ship, but they can if they want.

5 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Because you can't choose to double stress a ship, but they can if they want.

Still strangely worded, but I see. If you have 2 enemy ships, and both are stressed, you can't trigger the ability. But if 1 is stressed, and the other isn't you can trigger it and the opponent can choose to double up the stress on the other ship instead.

Edited by xbeaker
5 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Because you can't choose to double stress a ship, but they can if they want.

This. The wording is very clunky though. I would have said "If an opponent has at least one ship with no stress at range 1-2 they must apply one stress to one of those ships"

Correct. It means you can't choose to do the ostensibly more powerful thing - but they can choose to let you if they think it's better for them. It makes it slightly less powerful than it could be.

1 minute ago, sharrrp said:

This. The wording is very clunky though. I would have said "If an opponent has at least one ship with no stress at range 1-2 they must apply one stress to one of those ships"

Agreed. The card seems to make a strong point of you choosing a ship, only to make that actual choice unimportant.

3 minutes ago, xbeaker said:

Agreed. The card seems to make a strong point of you choosing a ship, only to make that actual choice unimportant.

As noted, it's not unimportant. It's just deeper than 'I want that one'.

Just now, thespaceinvader said:

As noted, it's not unimportant. It's just deeper than 'I want that one'.

Actually kind of fitting considering Kylo's temper tantrums. " I want that ship stressed!" "Well. I am going to stress this one over here." "But, But.. I wanted THAAAAT ONE!!" *smashes control console with lightsaber*

4 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

As noted, it's not unimportant. It's just deeper than 'I want that one'.

It is unimportant, in the end the opponent still choose, the choice is just a weird way to make the ability not trigger if no ship at range 1-2 is not stressed.

As someone else suggested, they could have made it clearer with the same exact result. In an extreme way of seeing it... the fact you "choose" could mind trick your opponent in thinking you really want to stress that ship if no ship is stressed and then make him change to the ship you really want...

Edited by muribundi