With the deaths, 2 is unusual as I have said, but not so much in role madness.

Toads death is not really useful to me, he wasnt suspected by anyone really so looks like a standard mafia kill.

Ovi though, he wasnt exactly flying clean D1, so I dont get why he was killed. Smells of Vig to me which I dont like as they are never helpful. Problem is Ovi didnt really go on record against anyone so nothing much to read into why anyone had anything against him anyway even if we assume it was a mafia kill.

@Pod, Who did you jail and why?

3 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

@Pod, Who did you jail and why?

I second the question, Pod, I don't understand how you believe you are "revealing too much information", the problem is that you are hiding information from town.

57 minutes ago, Visovics said:

I second the question, Pod, I don't understand how you believe you are "revealing too much information", the problem is that you are hiding information from town.

And I will be wanting your version of events subsequently.

14 hours ago, Bike Stunts said:

Clearly pod's win condition is to stall for at least 10 hours combined by the end of the game

Here's where I totally agree with you. Podracers behavior this game is incredibly strange.

11 hours ago, Bike Stunts said:

I'm seeing an odd pattern with Cninja and JJ. They're pretty much the only ones who've stayed on the Ginkapo train, and I'm not even sure why. They both jumped on after Truthiness did, and of course he was just trying to kick the hive and get lynched. Seems a little coordinated to me, especially since using Truth as camo would be a good play (I think) had they succeeded in getting the ball rolling harder on Gink D1. But then why do they persist now on day 2? Are they hoping to make people paranoid about being too comfortable with Gink after most of the effort put toward him turned out to be a farce?

I suppose saying JJ is "on the Ginkapo train" may be a little extreme, as all he said was he was just suspicious. Pretty much nothing elucidating on the scum front came out of lynching Truth so we are starting off in a hard spot for D2.

I'm also interested to hear what @GhostofNobodyInParticular has to say, as he was also suspicious of Ginkapo. That was mainly because of him defending Pod assuming he was scum (also a truthiness claim) which doesn't seem to be a concern for most people at the current time.

And here is where you totally have me wondering. First, this is a real stretch. Why the problem with me suspecting Gink? He really seemed to be acting scummy, and when I called him out on it day one, he changed up his play (imo).

Then I think he was trying to breadcrumb a bit of scum on me when I was trying to get info on Pod. I'm very curious about that interaction, because it eventually led to Gink backing up Pods story ("no noob would do this")

I personally think his L1 on Truth was premature, but that's not the worst reason imo.

And I have doubts. This is not a "omg its Gink! Has to be Gink!" Vote. I actually still suspect him, but think getting down to wtf is up with pod is more important to us right now. I am also more curious (as I've said) about the overall setup Biggs has given us.

Finally, linking JJ to me is also very curious.

@PodRacerwould you mind listing my scum tells? I can't wait to read them.

11 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

And I will be wanting your version of events subsequently.

I'll gladly provide it. I've only been holding up so that he won't profit of what I say to make it match

Here are some questions for everybody:

What role did Ovi have? (Mafia role) how did/does that work?

Where has @GhostofNobodyInParticulargone?

15 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

He seems upset that I wont declare him 100% town.

Gink, I really couldn't care less about this.

And the PodRacer **** show is eating up all the energy and seriously seems to be clouding everything. I'm inclined to flip his *** to see if we actually get somewhere with the reveal.

Because at this point, maybe he has a quota of posts he has to hit to win. It is ridiculous.

7 hours ago, PodRacer said:

9bike stunts - is off limits for me now, dont ask me about this, ever

@Bike Stuntswhat's this about?

I have never seen a role like Ovis before. Pod may be able to enlighten sering as he is claiming to have traded for spice.

7 hours ago, PodRacer said:

ugh L-2

I respect your Pov entirely Oni,

I couldnt sleep thinking about the game and therein lies a Problem For me

Im giving waaaaytoo much

IF anyone protected me and backed my cause last night to keep me alive or had a hand in it i really appreciated it, i did not expect to make d2 whatsoever

my quick morgan freeman and probable last post (if i can get any) sleep, and then im with my fam 2moro for my mas birthday and wont be on for hours to pour out answers

1 gnips dont have much on this guy

2mad definately has a role or win condition to kill the jailer, or some kinda crazy unpredictability like truth, he doesnt like me but not seemingly for scum related reasons/ doesnt care for sublety

3Gink- maybe he can figure it out, at least he has a better line of questioning than some and keeps an open mind, i wasnt too suspicious of him d1, but thats cos i think hes clevererer

4vis- has voted for me early due to night actions, i cant blame him, in his shoes i would be steaming, is was a useful thing at first his votefor me, but now im just waiting for scum to pounce

5pod_came into this without enough knowledge of how to play properly and is waaay out of his depth on alot of things, iv got to cry out for help day and night and then i get dumped on big time overnight and i dont know whats happened, what i can reveal etc, and its completely gimped my ability to coherently communicate for the rest of today at least

6ninja, im onto you ninja, bigtime actual scum read for me

7Caldias, scumslittle lapdog, the one they send out to die first but not the biggest fish in the pond

8onidsen- good player i heard,calls me out on my bs, but also on the scumdar big and proud 2 days in a row

9bike stunts - is off limits for me now, dont ask me about this, ever

10 jj, has posted a few times, seems to be asking good questions and able to follow my leads but isnt around enough to convince me im better off playing this game than having an actual life

11 truthiness, the real masterplan would have been to get to nightime and spike someone, then get killed d2 imo

12 toad- man i feel bad, and you had serious toolkit as well, shame you didnt trust me earlier

13ovi- whatever you did to my hand, i dont think it was enough to convince everyone else

i have been warned to tone it down a bit, and that carries its own way out as well,

im literally here hanging by a thread in every respect

Hanging by a thread? Now you're claiming marionette? jk,jk. At least this is sort of substantive, and gives us more than aloof arched eyebrows and Dr. Evil pinkies. Still pretty vague. This isn't enough to get me to unvote, but I am curious, and willing to pull back on the pod train if there is a convincing reason to do so.

In response to your analysis, I have a few thoughts:

1 GNiP - Seems pretty trustworthy to me so far

2 Mad - His voting for you, as everyone else's vote for you, is pretty fair considering how you've been acting. And I doubt that he doesn't like you, this is but a game. This seems like an attempt to assign blame to Mad.

3 Gink - Gink I'm not sure about right yet, but I am curious why you straight up ignored his question when he asked you who you blocked and why.

4 Vis - This I agree with. He does have every right to be steamed, as does anyone else who voted for you. Until now, your posts have been Pied Piper leading us to nowhere, but I do applaud you for having something written up now.

5 Pod - I feel you on the new player thing. Especially this one, it can be confusing, I feel I myself am a bit out of my depth. With that said, the complete obfuscation whenever you reply to direct questions is why people are suspicious, myself included. Does your role say you cannot reply in clear-cut responses?

7 Medias - I have no idea why you think I'm "scum's little lapdog." You've provided no reason other than "big AWWOOOO x 6" which isn't super informative I'd be happy to address any legitimate concerns you might have, but to me this reeks of another stunt to cast blame elsewhere.

8 Onidsen - He does seem to have a lot of experience, has been somewhat quiet. But his post quality has been high, so that's good enough for me. Seems ok for now.

9 Bike Stunts - See, now this confuses me. Why are we not allowed to ask about it? Could be a real, important reason, could just be trying to implicate Bike for some reason. I don't read scum on Ninja at all (although I am aware he can be good at hiding it), so Bike's suspicion makes me wary of him somewhat

10 JJ - Just like Onidsen, quality over quantity post wise, has stated he has to work a lot so can only participate for parts of the day

11 Truthiness - He played the best he could have and did amazing. If he hadn't been lynched Day 1, he would've lost, if I'm reading his item's ability correctly.

12 TheToad - Man, this really hurts. Don't know how the scum caught on to him, but he had a lot of great tools it looks like, and could've gotten us helpful information

13 Ovinomanc3r - His death doesn't make a lot of sense to me, seems random. Maybe a vigilante as Gink said or one-shot strongman? Like others have said I probably would've put him on the suspect list behind pod. Really interested in what Spice does.

I'll be somewhat intermittent today, but will be checking in. Interested in what the others think.

@Caldias (Where's my number 6!? )

We definitely see a link between BikeStunts/PodRacer/Visovics. Something is going on there.

Vis corroborates the link between him and Pod, Bike Stunts (I don't think) hasn't corroborated Pod's strange info about him.

At this point, I'm all for hammering Pod just to clear the air. I supported him early on because he didn't seem like scum and like he could be useful. That has changed since all he seems to be doing is wasting valuable time.

##vote Podracer

23 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Vis corroborates the link between him and Pod

What do you mean?

On 7/29/2017 at 8:02 AM, Visovics said:

Yeah, he is happier than me for other reasons as well, the thief

8 hours ago, PodRacer said:

4vis- has voted for me early due to night actions, i cant blame him, in his shoes i would be steaming, is was a useful thing at first his votefor me, but now im just waiting for scum to pounce

Something went on here at night that we haven't been filled in about.

Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:

Something went on here at night that we haven't been filled in about.

Waiting for his explanations, and he needs a **** good one. I am barely holding myself to say, but he can end up using that as basis for a lie, so not taking any chances

Haha WHOOPS!

6 CNinja - Not sure how he reads scum? He hasn't done anything to tip that hat to me, but of course I'm aware he's a good player. Pod, did you learn something about CNinja? Cause that reads as yet another attempt to throw shade in order to get suspicion off yourself.

24 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

At this point, I'm all for hammering Pod just to clear the air. I supported him early on because he didn't seem like scum and like he could be useful. That has changed since all he seems to be doing is wasting valuable time.

##vote Podracer

L-1

ok home and still alive just, can i get one unvote as a show of good faith, save me posting after the hammer?

I'll unvote the moment you tell me what your night actions were.

ok, mind if i explain d1 from my pov, to justify my night action?

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

ok, mind if i explain d1 from my pov, to justify my night action?

As long as you hide nothing

ok, thats gonna gonna take a bit longer to pull up quotes etc but its doable, sure would feel better if i knew i had time to give those answers tho

##unvote PodRacer

This better be worth it

its gonna have to be to convince 9 people

If you don't have everything explained in the next few hours, you should get hammered...you have wasted too much time already.