Man, in the time I spend in one answer all you fill a page.

I feel like and old fashioned mobile phone enterprise.

"Ey guys! I am going to release a new mobile. And it supports WhatsApp!!"

2 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Man, in the time I spend in one answer all you fill a page.

I feel like and old fashioned mobile phone enterprise.

"Ey guys! I am going to release a new mobile. And it supports WhatsApp!!"

Seriously. Active group this game. Which is good.

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

So...hang him? I dont care if he meets his win condition.

I don't either, but it's also not a priority. If he is indeed third party (still waiting on that reveal), his survival is indifferent to the town. Killing scum, who pose an actual threat, should be at the top of the town's priorities. Pushing the kill of a known third party doesn't really do much since both Scum and Town look innocent in the hanging and therefore you get no good info from the vote.

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Seriously. Active group this game. Which is good.

So good.

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

43 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

I don't either, but it's also not a priority. If he is indeed third party (still waiting on that reveal), his survival is indifferent to the town. Killing scum, who pose an actual threat, should be at the top of the town's priorities. Pushing the kill of a known third party doesn't really do much since both Scum and Town look innocent in the hanging and therefore you get no good info from the vote.

We dont know hes not a threat. Third party could still threaten town.

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

We dont know hes not a threat. Third party could still threaten town.

Indeed. Serial Killers, for example, are 3rd party.

Still, the likelihood of a third party role being as dangerous as a scum is low. Scum are dedicated anti-town, 3rd party harm us in passing.

17 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

We dont know hes not a threat. Third party could still threaten town.

Too much softball, not enough hardball for me so far mad

@madaghmire

What are you selling? crushed up cookies?

is your cereal Killar?

From what I see these are the options

1- Pod is telling the truth about being 3rd party, although he is a threat to town and not only directly stops the win condition, he also can harm town with whatever role he is and the solution is to lynch him

2-Pod is telling the truth about being 3rd party, and is harmless and even helpful to town. In this case we should keep him alive, and the doc should protect him, although he has provided nothing but "you don't want to do this" and hasn't claimed after pressured to do so and been at L-2 for a while now with more players threatening to put their votes if nothing changes on Pod's stance. Planned wrong and struggling to find a 3rd party role that can save you as the claim?

3-Pod is lying and is scum, not much explanation needed, he has to be lynched

So lynching Pod is the best option unless he claims something useful

From what I see these are the options

1- Pod is telling the truth about being 3rd party, although he is a threat to town and not only directly stops the win condition, he also can harm town with whatever role he is and the solution is to lynch him

2-Pod is telling the truth about being 3rd party, and is harmless and even helpful to town. In this case we should keep him alive, and the doc should protect him, although he has provided nothing but "you don't want to do this" and hasn't claimed after pressured to do so and been at L-2 for a while now with more players threatening to put their votes if nothing changes on Pod's stance. Planned wrong and struggling to find a 3rd party role that can save you as the claim?

3-Pod is lying and is scum, not much explanation needed, he has to be lynched

So lynching Pod is the best option unless he claims something useful

@PodRacer what is your thing you are ALWAYS after mad? you seem to have a thing for him going on

oh double post

1 minute ago, Visovics said:

@PodRacer what is your thing you are ALWAYS after mad? you seem to have a thing for him going on

and Ovi.

Rare moment to post from work.

i don't think Pod should reveal. I feel like he has a strong ability against scum and if he reveals it it won't be nearly as strong. I think pressure on those voting for him is better, I'm not entirely sure why, but my gut is strong on this one.

After reading today's messages, I'm even more concerned about Gink, my vote is more than spite now, it's strong suspicion. I'll look more closely at others on the Pod wagon this evening after work.

18 minutes ago, Visovics said:

what is your thing you are ALWAYS after mad? you seem to have a thing for him going on

your not trying too hard too hide from my eye of sauron superpowers yourself

Just now, PodRacer said:

your not trying too hard too hide from my eye of sauron superpowers yourself

I'm not trying to hide

you got a big set of watermelons there, and i respect that vis

14 minutes ago, Visovics said:

@PodRacer what is your thing you are ALWAYS after mad? you seem to have a thing for him going on

12 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

and Ovi.

I was wondering the same. I even was looking for some weird role as the unlyncher.

- Third party

- focused on other players

- and helpful for town in some way. Basically depending on the unlynchee/s alignment.

However it is not a super role that scum would like dead at all cost.

I agree with JJ about Pod. It is obvious that if he were scum he would have claimed something to avoid the lynching right? I would give him a pass for now.

Lots of things coming to light, I'm at work trying to process all of this so I will

##unvote PodRacer

i want the record to be clear that I believe he is still a good candidate for a D1 lynch I just don't want to be involved in a hammer while I'm away

41 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

your not trying too hard too hide from my eye of sauron superpowers yourself

So, to be clear, you are claiming to have a sort of scan role? A Cop or a Role Cop, or something similar? And you're claiming to already know that Vis is guilty? That's a bold move for a third party to claim.

Firstly, you can't have had any results yet, because there hasn't been a night in which to use them. Unless you have a Day Action, but you haven't posted a formatted action in the thread. If it's not an immediate action, then it almost certainly won't resolve until the end of the Day. If you even have a Day-useable scan. Which I doubt, for reasons I have already listed.

So what that means is that you are bluffing. Your third-party win condition (assuming you're not scum trying to hide behind it, which I still find likely, especially given your reticence to claim) must be to survive to the end of the game, so you are bluffing a power role to try and survive the lynch and perhaps draw a protection during the night.

What I don't get is why you aren't willing to claim! We're going to kill you otherwise, thus invalidating your win condition. If you give an unconvincing claim, nothing changes from where you are now, but if you give a convincing claim, we'll shift the lynch towards other targets and you can probably even draw a protection during the night against a scum kill.

I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said already with this, but I'm going to point out that given this set of conditions - and given your unwillingness to even acknowledge and engage with the people who are trying to explain this to you - I find the most likely circumstance to be that you are a scum that's gotten themselves backed into a corner and you're grasping at straws to try and save your skin. So I'm not going to back off of this train.

Also, I'm finding @Truthiness and @JJs Juggernaut to be suspect as well. They've been attempting to divert the train away from Podracer - sometimes more subtly and sometimes overtly. I'm not saying it's strong evidence, especially since linking themselves with a partner would be a poor move on the scum's part. But it's something that I'm looking at. @TheToad is also backing off of the train, but that's consistent with prior attitudes towards D1 lynching. Given that they haven't done anything else to draw my suspicion, I'm going to consider that not alignment indicative, but I reserve the right to re-examine it at a future date.

If Podracer flips actual third party, then my suspicions will be greatly reduced on both of them. But the best way to find that out is to flip PodRacer. Unless he ends up claiming and the claim is a role that explains his current actions sufficiently, in which case we should find a different target. But somehow, I doubt that's going to happen.

6 minutes ago, Onidsen said:

must be to survive to the end of the game

yes

As well as other non violent interactions that offer no threat to town if they back my cause

Just now, PodRacer said:

yes

As well as other non violent interactions that offer no threat to town if they back my cause

So. . . you're a survivor? A Commuter? A Lovee (the target of a Lover - don't think it exists as an actual role)? A Serial Killer? You said non-violent, so I assume that last one is out.

What else is there? And why was this so super-duper that you couldn't spill the beans earlier?

like i mentioned, Big had a something different in mind here

1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

And why was this so super-duper that you couldn't spill the beans earlier?

because a few players slipped and it was relevant

4 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

yes

As well as other non violent interactions that offer no threat to town if they back my cause

But violent if they dont back your cause?