15 minutes ago, Bike Stunts said:

Your role, man. Spill your whole role.

If i wake up day 2 i will reveal the scum busting tools in my arsenal. First Post. Stand on me.

Im not a Hooker/Prostitute

I have a serious role on the station that isnt faction alligned.

Iv declared my allegiance at my own Peril, allowing the Scum to Further muddy the waters By focusing me down

since the Game started i Have attempted to find negotiation for protection of My role as it will be of more value to the win in the long term for town, Worth More than a vanilla townie due tothe added layers of night defense my role can bring, but at this point i will not be made to feel i have to describe my role exactly,

Town should think fast, AS scum will soon have their night chat so you need to be onboard and comfortable with me on board, i dont want people turning round days later and axing me for being suspicious.

Im just as vulnerable to scum as you are.

if you are town and still voting for me i would ask isnt it better that town have a known face leading the charge and rooting out scum roles, allowing you to fall back, see what outcomes arise From the Fight i will put up publically and from the front line.

I dont intend to join you town, i intend to lead you!

And ruffle some scummy feathers along the way

iv already helped you get from a 1 in 13 to a one in five shot by mid to late day one

::sigh::

One of the best scum plays is to claim to have a super-duper beneficial role. Especially when you then not reveal it, as that implies a certain super-sensitivity is involved - a bit pointless, as if it's too good to reveal, it's too good for the scum to keep around, thereby guaranteeing you being the target night 1. That way, we are forced to keep you alive in case you tell the truth, and maybe even protect you, and that just digs you in further. . . however we are too concerned with the potential damage your death will bring to consider lynching you. So we are forced by our own caution to not lynch you. You'd better deliver man, 'cause if not, you're gonna die Day 2.

4 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

iv already helped you get from a 1 in 13 to a one in five shot by mid to late day one

1/5th chance of targeting scum? I don't think that all the scum would have played so badly that they can all be grouped in the same basket. Though you may have identified 1 or if we're lucky 2 (assuming you are not scum yourself), and with regards to that, sure, you've been helpful. But it can really only be verified by your death.

So you are using the same argument again? The one where you don't prove or tell anything, and where you don't convince us of how you can be benefitial to town

The reveal would be TMIi given to actual scum for free just now so Biggs or i will reveal that either the end of round 1 or start of round 2, up to you.

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

The reveal would be TMIi given to actual scum for free just now so Biggs or i will reveal that either the end of round 1 or start of round 2, up to you.

Generally when that happens you hope for a doctor to believe in you

4 minutes ago, Visovics said:

So you are using the same argument again?

The Story isnt going to change, there will be none of that awkward squirming scum do just before you blast there faces off once outed, il go down with my chin held high

just how @Madaghmire likes it

You do realize that you already saying announcing your role would get the mafia to want to kill you, they are already eyeing you because you claim it to be so important? The only difference between this and an actual claim is the public knowledge of the rest of the players, so it hurts town

it would hurt town more if the scum knew which roles you Did not have at your disposal

Just now, PodRacer said:

it would hurt town more if the scum knew which roles you Did not have at your disposal

That makes no real sense

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

it would hurt town more if the scum knew which roles you Did not have at your disposal

We'll know what job you had when you die, man.

best rally the troops then @Visovics

At first he passed his gom jabbar so

## respect

Going to what matters:

I have been never sure about the difference between saying "I am the cop" and "I have a super role". Both will draw the attention of the scum.

But here is an interesting factor. He claimed third party so, not knowing what he actually does, we should assume that the super power could works both ways or even any at all. All we know is what he said about being beneficial at long term.

However I am with Gink about his third party claim. CNinja basically asked "do you want to claim third party or die?" So the answer was obvious by far.

54 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

If i wake up day 2 i will reveal the scum busting tools in my arsenal. First Post. Stand on me.

Im not a Hooker/Prostitute

I have a serious role on the station that isnt faction alligned.

Iv declared my allegiance at my own Peril, allowing the Scum to Further muddy the waters By focusing me down

since the Game started i Have attempted to find negotiation for protection of My role as it will be of more value to the win in the long term for town, Worth More than a vanilla townie due tothe added layers of night defense my role can bring, but at this point i will not be made to feel i have to describe my role exactly,

You really did. Being so suspicious you got scum protection during the nights and now claiming being beneficial to the town you tried to buy ours.

Not sure what to think about it yet. Where you tried to put yourself seems a good place for a scum to be as the only place where you could go if you are being honest.

What makes me don't trust you is that I don't see the difference between "I am whatever power role" and "I have a role that means I am dead if I claimed". Cause that is the impression you give me.

Just now, Bike Stunts said:

We'll know what job you had when you die, man.

thats what i said

And itl will hurt alot when you dont have it

Turbo ninja'd

Pod, I'm going to reiterate what literally everyone here is saying to you. Tell us your job or we ice you. It makes no difference at this point for you to hide your job. The card you played isn't enough for us, but it probably is enough to make you a scum target anyway. Play your last frickin' card.

Just now, PodRacer said:

thats what i said

And itl will hurt alot when you dont have it

We have 3 ways of knowing it, either now, when you are lynched because you can't convince us not to or at night once you're killed

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

thats what i said

And itl will hurt alot when you dont have it

Dude, you'll die anyway. At this point everybody wants to hammer you, and if the scum are smart they'll kill you at night to be rid of you. So claiming only has the benefit of us sparing you and maybe the doc protecting you, to carry you through the night. So not claiming makes no difference to your longevity, whereas claiming actually does.

Well @GhostofNobodyInParticular

I want to trust you, i know you know your meta stuff... i will consider an early reveal..

If many other players also consider it to be the right move

but its very much ringing alarm bells from here

12 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

However I am with Gink about his third party claim.

My third party reveal was days and days ago to those who have been following closely, @Ginkapo Realised too late what was gonna happen and moved to immediately discredit any claim i made in that moment, one of the most devious and untrustworthy plays yet. IMO

Just now, PodRacer said:

Well @GhostofNobodyInParticular

I want to trust you, i know you know your meta stuff... i will consider an early reveal..

If many other players also consider it to be the right move

but its very much ringing alarm bells from here

I get that man, early reveals are dangerous, and generally it is much better to keep it under wraps. But at this point it doesn't matter. Don't reveal, the town lynches you. Failing that, the scum night kill you. Reveal, the town, if we're convinced, don't lynch you, the scum try to night kill you, and hopefully the doc protects you.

Claiming is the only thing separating you from a lynch, and if you aren't scum, then the scum know you're likely telling the truth, so from the moment you said you have a power role you've been their night target. Therefore, nothing but the doc's good graces is saving you from the night, and the only way to get said doc's protection is too claim.

In the interest of fair arguments, I would like to point out that there is a chance the scum let you live through the night to discredit your claim. You should take that into consideration when weighing the pros and cons. However as you'll never get to the night if you don't claim, I think it a risk that must be taken.

1 minute ago, PodRacer said:

My third party reveal was days and days ago to those who have been following closely, @Ginkapo Realised too late what was gonna happen and moved to immediately discredit any claim i made in that moment, one of the most devious and untrustworthy plays yet. IMO

All I saw was you breadcrumbing but whatever.

What I see is that you think that

- Getting lynched is better than claiming.

- Getting night killed is better than claiming

I am just wondering what is better for town.