9 minutes ago, Onidsen said:

Excellent! You want a blaster or a dose of spice?

I dont actually care.

@JJ why would I tell you all that I blocked a kill N1 or why Mad didnt die? How would that help anyone but scum?

ONI, how does your trading work? Does it require back and forth, or is it just a single action?

Gink, telling the town that information then let's us know there were even more night kills happening, which is critical information about the number of threats to town. I understand not revealing early, but you never even seemed to try and follow up and find out what happened...

its also suspicious that you would trade away your only win condition with no other reason than to "help the town". My win condition actually gives me reason to help the town.

Im looking forward to hearing Mad chime in.

I'll be deep diving the records this evening.

Yeah Gink, you obviously didn't fulfill your win con. . . why did you decide to drop it?

9 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Yeah Gink, you obviously didn't fulfill your win con. . . why did you decide to drop it?

Explain.

I traded away my item and thus ability, I did not trade away my win condition.

Just now, Ginkapo said:

Explain.

I traded away my item and thus ability, I did not trade away my win condition.

So. . . what was your win con?

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

So. . . what was your win con?

Simply to survive, same as CNinja and presumably Toad. Being a CPR doc is a hinderence not a help to trying to survive.

Just now, Ginkapo said:

Simply to survive, same as CNinja and presumably Toad. Being a CPR doc is a hinderence not a help to trying to survive.

Ah, I see.

31 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

Gink, telling the town that information then let's us know there were even more night kills happening, which is critical information about the number of threats to town. I understand not revealing early, but you never even seemed to try and follow up and find out what happened...

You mean I didnt hint that we werent dealing with a single serial killer? Oh wait, no I did.

What exactly did you want me to do as follow up? Try and find out who targetted Mad? It was you. I tried to get you lynched yesterday, and I am trying again. Thats called follow up.

Yeah, I too have my suspicions of JJ, and they are growing. . . I do want to wait for the others (Bike, Mad) to chime in, as I don't think they've posted once yet today.

I need one more night to occur in order to win but its pretty futile I think to try and drag things out for my benefit. If I'm not mistaken, everyone else (besides scum and town) has fulfilled the action part of their win condition and is now just surviving?

JJ seems like he has something scummy going on. All that rolefishing yesterday, not to mention saying he'd reveal his role after Gink and Mad do, but then revealing it anyway. I'm not voting for him right now, because that would put him 1 away from hammer which feels unnecessary this early in the day, but I don't see any other suspects at current. Worst case scenario for me is that he is scum and everyone wins.

OK. So.

I'm not going to bother delving into Bikes or Slippy Nippy, because I think at this point we all agree that either they are what they say they are or they deserve to win.

I've told you exactly what I am. The problem is, I don't win if we just lynch the scum. Because I haven't seen them do anything. This is of course assuming there is only one scum left. If there are two...hoo boy. But the fact that Visovics was apparently a one off, and that there are so many independent conditions and one shot kills leads me to believe there may only be 2, although I still find that awfully surprising given how many protections there were in this game. Biggs did say it wasn't balanced though. See poor Bike's crazy three operations. Btw, Bikes, do you just need to live three nights and make three targets, or do you actually have to save three people?

Honestly, I feel like that's a crazy silly condition given how simple some of the rest have been. I feel like visovics had a similar objective and he apparently only had to get lucky once, and then he didn't even need to live after that. Mine is more analogous, and I just need to guess right once. I join you in giving the ole' mustache maniac the double deuce.

But I digress.

Gink and Oni seem to have their own version of the silk road set up below decks. I was sort of hoping something would fall through their and we'd be given a 50/50 either or option. But it seems like, at least for now, that they are being truthful. Also apparently I owe Ginkapo for keeping me alive and forcing me to keep playing this nonsense. Apparently, I could be in the ******* lounge by now. Thanks, Obama. I mean Ginkapo. I mean **** you.

So, for what its worth, I think JJ is the most likely killer. I think he thought leaving me alive would provide an alternate lynch target when I had no watch result. But I'm still weighing whether or not I actually want to vote him in hopes of ******* ending this game, or simply letting him go in hopes I can catch him killing one of you tonight.

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

OK. So.

I'm not going to bother delving into Bikes or Slippy Nippy, because I think at this point we all agree that either they are what they say they are or they deserve to win.

I've told you exactly what I am. The problem is, I don't win if we just lynch the scum. Because I haven't seen them do anything. This is of course assuming there is only one scum left. If there are two...hoo boy. But the fact that Visovics was apparently a one off, and that there are so many independent conditions and one shot kills leads me to believe there may only be 2, although I still find that awfully surprising given how many protections there were in this game. Biggs did say it wasn't balanced though. See poor Bike's crazy three operations. Btw, Bikes, do you just need to live three nights and make three targets, or do you actually have to save three people?

Honestly, I feel like that's a crazy silly condition given how simple some of the rest have been. I feel like visovics had a similar objective and he apparently only had to get lucky once, and then he didn't even need to live after that. Mine is more analogous, and I just need to guess right once. I join you in giving the ole' mustache maniac the double deuce.

But I digress.

Gink and Oni seem to have their own version of the silk road set up below decks. I was sort of hoping something would fall through their and we'd be given a 50/50 either or option. But it seems like, at least for now, that they are being truthful. Also apparently I owe Ginkapo for keeping me alive and forcing me to keep playing this nonsense. Apparently, I could be in the ******* lounge by now. Thanks, Obama. I mean Ginkapo. I mean **** you.

So, for what its worth, I think JJ is the most likely killer. I think he thought leaving me alive would provide an alternate lynch target when I had no watch result. But I'm still weighing whether or not I actually want to vote him in hopes of ******* ending this game, or simply letting him go in hopes I can catch him killing one of you tonight.

Good point. I need at least one more night for my trading. If JJ is the last scum, I don't win...

##unvote for the moment

Might even be worth

##novote

Course, if I can be persuaded that there is at least one more scum out there other than JJ, then I'm down with whittling down their ranks.

That should be:

##no lynch

I don't think there are any more scum.

That would imply that it's either Mad you or Gink. You three all seem pretty clear through your own interactions.

I just realized that we don't really know what the end of game trigger is.

Theoretically there is a scum, but they could be self-aligned just like the rest of us. In fact, with this many 1-shot or more-shot kill items going around, it would be completely possible for Mad to get his win con even if there isn't a scum-aligned player.

I just don't know how that interacts with Nippy's.

**** you biiiiiiigggggs!

Neither do I.

I am not enthusiastic about a no lynch. I'm sitting on a cop scanner and have been pushing JJ quite hard. Night isnt really something I want.

I dont disagree with your logic guys, just thought I would share my feelings.

47 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Btw, Bikes, do you just need to live three nights and make three targets, or do you actually have to save three people?

I just have to perform three operations. You would need some mad trueskill foresight if the win condition was you had to protect three people AND they had to get targeted. I basically just have to survive three nights and use my ability each time. The problem I guess is that the "side effect" makes me look suspicious, as evidenced with pod getting the wrong idea about why he wasn't allowed to talk bad about me.

##no lynch

I missed that onid needed another night as well. Sorry to throw you under the bus a bit, Gink, but I gotta live up to the station's name. If you're lucky I'll get offed instead.

10 minutes ago, Bike Stunts said:

I just have to perform three operations. You would need some mad trueskill foresight if the win condition was you had to protect three people AND they had to get targeted. I basically just have to survive three nights and use my ability each time. The problem I guess is that the "side effect" makes me look suspicious, as evidenced with pod getting the wrong idea about why he wasn't allowed to talk bad about me.

##no lynch

I missed that onid needed another night as well. Sorry to throw you under the bus a bit, Gink, but I gotta live up to the station's name. If you're lucky I'll get offed instead.

I doubt it. It'd likely be me. . .

6 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I doubt it. It'd likely be me. . .

I think you'll be okay. You're already a ghost

Well I'm not sure what I can do to avoid your suspicions. There is still at least one threat to the town otherwise the game would be over. I need to find that threat to win. If there are two scum, we have to lynch right to win, if there are two scum, its among Gink, Mad, and Oni. If there is only one, it could be any of the three, but would lessen my suspicions of Oni. I'm mainly concerned by the number of kill items Oni has and if he could use them all at once. If so, he can easily nuke the rest of us to guarantee his win, that's a threat to all of us. Also, @Onidsen , you didn't elaborate on your trading ability like I asked.... Madagmire seems so desperate to die all of a sudden...I'm tempted for us to grant that wish and Gink can confirm my role with the scanner.

The other option is the no lynch, which with two scum keeps the game going for one more day, I can't support that due to my win condition though.

Remember Vis. He trusted me, anyone wanting to get through this alive should as well.

6 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

Well I'm not sure what I can do to avoid your suspicions. There is still at least one threat to the town otherwise the game would be over. I need to find that threat to win. If there are two scum, we have to lynch right to win, if there are two scum, its among Gink, Mad, and Oni. If there is only one, it could be any of the three, but would lessen my suspicions of Oni. I'm mainly concerned by the number of kill items Oni has and if he could use them all at once. If so, he can easily nuke the rest of us to guarantee his win, that's a threat to all of us. Also, @Onidsen , you didn't elaborate on your trading ability like I asked.... Madagmire seems so desperate to die all of a sudden...I'm tempted for us to grant that wish and Gink can confirm my role with the scanner.

The other option is the no lynch, which with two scum keeps the game going for one more day, I can't support that due to my win condition though.

Remember Vis. He trusted me, anyone wanting to get through this alive should as well.

Oops. Must have missed it.

My trading is a simple action on my part. I order a trade, and it happens. The recipient has no control over the matter.

Also, I can only use one action per night, so I certainly cannot use all of my kill items at once. Technically I have an item that doesn't count as an action (I forgot to mention it in my big list - it's a long-range radio that lets me broadcast at night), but I can't use both kills.

1 minute ago, Onidsen said:

Oops. Must have missed it.

My trading is a simple action on my part. I order a trade, and it happens. The recipient has no control over the matter.

Also, I can only use one action per night, so I certainly cannot use all of my kill items at once. Technically I have an item that doesn't count as an action (I forgot to mention it in my big list - it's a long-range radio that lets me broadcast at night), but I can't use both kills.

So do you have to know what they have? or can you just grab a random item?

31 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

Madagmire seems so desperate to die all of a sudden...I'm tempted for us to grant that wish and Gink can confirm my role with the scanner.

The other option is the no lynch, which with two scum keeps the game going for one more day, I can't support that due to my win condition though.

Remember Vis. He trusted me, anyone wanting to get through this alive should as well.

1. Yes, I too would want to kill the watcher. What makes you think the game would go on?

2. I bet you can't.

3. Vis never saw fit to tell us he was gonna book it if he found his target.